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Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:45 pm

carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
balkanblue wrote:Silly season is still in full swing. Cut him slack after 1 win in 4? A reality check is needed.


Agreed.

What an overreaction to winning one game.
As close to the top as the bottom three.

Luke, no need to be insulting.

Not an overreaction to winning one game at all.

It is a reaction to the performances of the team over those four games.

They have improved massively to what they were last season and we have gone undefeated against difficult opposition.

Wonder what the overreaction would have been in heaven forbid we had lost one or even two of those games we have been undefeated in ?


I'm not being insulting Carl, the general feeling on the board after one win in my opinion ion is totally OTT.

I still don't think the squad is being used to its potential.
Out fans seem to go from one extreme to the next depending on one result be it a win or a loss.

I think the performances are rated highly due to the awful performances of the end of last season.

I'd still take 4th from bottom :thumbup:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:47 pm

Neath Bluebird wrote:Nope sorry, slade buckled to public pressure today, slade and Young should be gone, still too many basic mistakes, and is not a coincidence when you watch them in training, which is very steatite to say the least.
I am still not impressed with what I am seeing, wolves had an off day today, pity jacket was'nt still living by U.S.! Ha ha

So you don't think that Slade was possibly going to play Jones and give a press interview bigging up Revell as a psychological positive for the beleaguered striker knowing that in a couple days he was dropping him.

Jones was not match fit at the very beginning of the season and has been used sparingly off the bench, maybe that was the reason that he was not playing from the start of games.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:47 pm

carlccfc wrote:" Time to cut Russell Slade some slack "

Slade was certainly not the choice of manager of any Cardiff City fan when Solskjaer was sacked and he has faced a difficult time since his arrival.

Not only has the manager had to cut the wage bill, sell players but he has also had to try and win over a fanbase, including myself, the performances last season didn't go anyway to helping Slade but so far this season there has been an improvement.

This week, leading up to today's game, I spoke to many people and I asked the same question to all, what happens if City don't win but draw against Wolves?

Each and everyone reply I had was almost identical, ' the knives will be out! '

My feeling was that if we had drawn today, the performances have certainly been much improved to what they were last season, so it would have been unjust in my opinion to call for the managers head after better displays and not losing a game in five, if you include the cup win over Wimbledon.

The team are getting the ball down to try and play football, partnerships are forming and triangles of football are evident with more movement than we saw last season.

It does not mean we are world beaters by any stretch of the imagination but there are definite signs of improvement, a togetherness among the players and hopefully confidence will come on the back of these performances and results like today's.

If I have a concern, it would be the confidence of the team, I am hoping we can continue on this mini run we are on, as the team doesn't look like it is brimming with confidence but if we can get a couple of back to back wins, I am hoping that changes quickly.

What I saw today was encouraging indeed, even in the first half when we didn't look brilliant on the ball, what we did have was a good shape, two good banks of four that worked, for the majority of time, in unison. When 4-4-2 works it proves to be difficult to break down and that was clearly what frustrated Wolves today.

Not one shot on target for Wolves this afternoon is testament to the defending of the whole team.

Slade could have been stubborn today and kept belief in Revell but chose to go with the popular choice of Kenwyne Jones and it proved correct, not saying Slade was not going to make the change anyway but the fact is he did and who can complain.

Where Slade perhaps had a little bit of luck was the performance of Fabio, the Brazilian was simply brilliant today but Slade must have been gutted to lose Scott Malone to a sickness bug, who would have thought we would be saying that, as the left back has been a revelation in the early part of the season.

Is Russell Slade a good enough manager to get Cardiff City promoted this season ?

I don't know what the answer is to that but what I will say is, after the first five games of the season, he deserves to be cut some slack and given the opportunity and support from the stands in trying to do so.

Carl, im not going to slag him off for the start we have made, but he started well last season too. I will reserve my judgement.. Great win today though.. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:50 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
balkanblue wrote:Silly season is still in full swing. Cut him slack after 1 win in 4? A reality check is needed.


Agreed.

What an overreaction to winning one game.
As close to the top as the bottom three.

Luke, no need to be insulting.

Not an overreaction to winning one game at all.

It is a reaction to the performances of the team over those four games.

They have improved massively to what they were last season and we have gone undefeated against difficult opposition.

Wonder what the overreaction would have been in heaven forbid we had lost one or even two of those games we have been undefeated in ?


I'm not being insulting Carl, the general feeling on the board after one win in my opinion ion is totally OTT.

I still don't think the squad is being used to its potential.
Out fans seem to go from one extreme to the next depending on one result be it a win or a loss.

I think the performances are rated highly due to the awful performances of the end of last season.

I'd still take 4th from bottom :thumbup:

Luke you come on my thread and said 'what an overreaction', I find that insulting.

At the very end of last season, we saw probably what was considered the best performance of the season, a win over Forest.

Are you saying that if Slade finishes 4th from bottom you would be happy ?

If so, I fail to see why you would not be happy with the current set of results. :thumbup:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:52 pm

RFMH wrote:If you want to cut Slade some slack how about the Slade out smilie disappears?


Only if the other smillie goes as well! ( sorry cant bring myself to say it) ;)

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:57 pm

CHRIS PIKE wrote:
carlccfc wrote:" Time to cut Russell Slade some slack "

Slade was certainly not the choice of manager of any Cardiff City fan when Solskjaer was sacked and he has faced a difficult time since his arrival.

Not only has the manager had to cut the wage bill, sell players but he has also had to try and win over a fanbase, including myself, the performances last season didn't go anyway to helping Slade but so far this season there has been an improvement.

This week, leading up to today's game, I spoke to many people and I asked the same question to all, what happens if City don't win but draw against Wolves?

Each and everyone reply I had was almost identical, ' the knives will be out! '

My feeling was that if we had drawn today, the performances have certainly been much improved to what they were last season, so it would have been unjust in my opinion to call for the managers head after better displays and not losing a game in five, if you include the cup win over Wimbledon.

The team are getting the ball down to try and play football, partnerships are forming and triangles of football are evident with more movement than we saw last season.

It does not mean we are world beaters by any stretch of the imagination but there are definite signs of improvement, a togetherness among the players and hopefully confidence will come on the back of these performances and results like today's.

If I have a concern, it would be the confidence of the team, I am hoping we can continue on this mini run we are on, as the team doesn't look like it is brimming with confidence but if we can get a couple of back to back wins, I am hoping that changes quickly.

What I saw today was encouraging indeed, even in the first half when we didn't look brilliant on the ball, what we did have was a good shape, two good banks of four that worked, for the majority of time, in unison. When 4-4-2 works it proves to be difficult to break down and that was clearly what frustrated Wolves today.

Not one shot on target for Wolves this afternoon is testament to the defending of the whole team.

Slade could have been stubborn today and kept belief in Revell but chose to go with the popular choice of Kenwyne Jones and it proved correct, not saying Slade was not going to make the change anyway but the fact is he did and who can complain.

Where Slade perhaps had a little bit of luck was the performance of Fabio, the Brazilian was simply brilliant today but Slade must have been gutted to lose Scott Malone to a sickness bug, who would have thought we would be saying that, as the left back has been a revelation in the early part of the season.

Is Russell Slade a good enough manager to get Cardiff City promoted this season ?

I don't know what the answer is to that but what I will say is, after the first five games of the season, he deserves to be cut some slack and given the opportunity and support from the stands in trying to do so.

Carl, im not going to slag him off for the start we have made, but he started well last season too. I will reserve my judgement.. Great win today though.. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluebird:

Fair point and fair play :thumbup:

Even though Slade got four wins at home when he first came in, the performances were poor.

He lost his first two aways, drew his third before he got a win away at Watford.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:57 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Out fans seem to go from one extreme to the next depending on one result be it a win or a loss.

This one sentence just sums everything up completely.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:58 pm

drivingblue wrote:
RFMH wrote:If you want to cut Slade some slack how about the Slade out smilie disappears?


Only if the other smillie goes as well! ( sorry cant bring myself to say it) ;)

My opinion counts as my opinion only.

If others believe that Slade should go then they deserve the right to say so.

At this time I believe he deserves the chance to be supported. :thumbup:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:59 pm

I didn't quote you Carl, just a general observation regarding the thread and other I've read on here, no need to take offence I just don't agree. I very rarely point at individuals on here and if I do I let it be known who and what I mean.

I guess I wouldn't be happy with 4th from bottom, but I'm assuming we still have one of the biggest wage bills and and a squad not being used correctly in my opinion. I see a struggle ahead and staying up will still be the priority and would take that because of slade who in my opinion is an awful manager.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:01 pm

2blue2handle wrote:I didn't quote you Carl, just a general observation regarding the thread and other I've read on here, no need to take offence I just don't agree. I very rarely point at individuals on here and if I do I let it be known who and what I mean.

I guess I wouldn't be happy with 4th from bottom, but I'm assuming we still have one of the biggest wage bills and and a squad not being used correctly in my opinion. I see a struggle ahead and staying up will still be the priority and would take that because of slade who in my opinion is an awful manager.

But if he is that awful, surely he is not just lucky to go undefeated against Fulham, QPR, Blackburn and Wolves ?

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:03 pm

Despite him not because of him :thumbup:

Not like he plays many of his signings anyway and it's been said he doesn't take training.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:06 pm

I'm not a Slade fan in the slightest, but things have definitely improved this season. Actually playing some good football at times and not just hoofing it.

The team selection today was near spot on, and I hope he sticks with it at Forest - as long as Jones' and Fabio's injuries aren't too bad.

I said at the start of the season that we should judge him on 10-12 league games of this season. We're four games into that, and six points isn't a bad start.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:07 pm

2blue2handle wrote:Despite him not because of him :thumbup:

Not like he plays many of his signings anyway and it's been said he doesn't take training.

Neither did Dave Jones take training sessions Luke.

But the manager picks the team and lives by the sword (results), if results are bad then the manager loses his job.

Are you suggesting that because Slade, according to you, doesn't take training sessions then he is not responsible for the results, win, lose or draw ?

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:08 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:I'm not a Slade fan in the slightest, but things have definitely improved this season. Actually playing some good football at times and not just hoofing it.

The team selection today was near spot on, and I hope he sticks with it at Forest - as long as Jones' and Fabio's injuries aren't too bad.

I said at the start of the season that we should judge him on 10-12 league games of this season. We're four games into that, and six points isn't a bad start.

So do you think Ned, that Slade deserves to be cut some slack ?

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:09 pm

carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I didn't quote you Carl, just a general observation regarding the thread and other I've read on here, no need to take offence I just don't agree. I very rarely point at individuals on here and if I do I let it be known who and what I mean.

I guess I wouldn't be happy with 4th from bottom, but I'm assuming we still have one of the biggest wage bills and and a squad not being used correctly in my opinion. I see a struggle ahead and staying up will still be the priority and would take that because of slade who in my opinion is an awful manager.

But if he is that awful, surely he is not just lucky to go undefeated against Fulham, QPR, Blackburn and Wolves ?



not forgetting about 4 defeats in 20 odd games? ok style of play last season was dire but we were in transition! and this season no one can say its dire football regardless of quality of opposition? :thumbright:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:10 pm

Igovernor wrote:Me too, Carl nice to meet you today, hope I didn't interupt your eating (or drinking) :laughing6:

Nice to put a face to a name Roger and very nice to meet you even if I was getting stuck into my carvery :mrgreen:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:11 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I didn't quote you Carl, just a general observation regarding the thread and other I've read on here, no need to take offence I just don't agree. I very rarely point at individuals on here and if I do I let it be known who and what I mean.

I guess I wouldn't be happy with 4th from bottom, but I'm assuming we still have one of the biggest wage bills and and a squad not being used correctly in my opinion. I see a struggle ahead and staying up will still be the priority and would take that because of slade who in my opinion is an awful manager.

But if he is that awful, surely he is not just lucky to go undefeated against Fulham, QPR, Blackburn and Wolves ?



not forgetting about 4 defeats in 20 odd games? ok style of play last season was dire but we were in transition! and this season no one can say its dire football regardless of quality of opposition? :thumbright:

Allan, I am unsure if we have ever agreed on anything but on this particular topic I believe the improvements we are witnessing should be embraced and as a result we should cut the manager some slack.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:18 pm

You boys have no faith

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:21 pm

It's one game albeit a good win against a fancied Wolves side, who I thought were poor other than a bright start.
What I will definitely give Slade credit for was his substitution of Jones, It would have been so easy to have made the obvious change and bring on Revell going like for like.
But he was bold putting on Ameobi in an advanced role which gave Wolves something else to think about. He got his goal, looked a threat and more importantly, looked like he really wanted it.
Interesting selection now for Forest, but I'll have more hope if Slade continues to show we have more than one way to play and keep everybody guessing instead of being so predictable. :thumbup:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:21 pm

carlccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
carlccfc wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:I didn't quote you Carl, just a general observation regarding the thread and other I've read on here, no need to take offence I just don't agree. I very rarely point at individuals on here and if I do I let it be known who and what I mean.

I guess I wouldn't be happy with 4th from bottom, but I'm assuming we still have one of the biggest wage bills and and a squad not being used correctly in my opinion. I see a struggle ahead and staying up will still be the priority and would take that because of slade who in my opinion is an awful manager.

But if he is that awful, surely he is not just lucky to go undefeated against Fulham, QPR, Blackburn and Wolves ?



not forgetting about 4 defeats in 20 odd games? ok style of play last season was dire but we were in transition! and this season no one can say its dire football regardless of quality of opposition? :thumbright:

Allan, I am unsure if we have ever agreed on anything but on this particular topic I believe the improvements we are witnessing should be embraced and as a result we should cut the manager some slack.



a couple times over the years carl! :laughing6: but really what were fans expecting from what really is a tuff opening ten games? lots of comments were based on last seasons performances, but as said no one can deny style as improved and with out dodgy keeper against fulham we would be right up there and thats all we can go on is here and now! and its looking ok but garauntee if after 10 games we got 20 or more points someone will not be happy or denying we've improved! :o :thumbup:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:22 pm

Good post

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:25 pm

carlccfc wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:I'm not a Slade fan in the slightest, but things have definitely improved this season. Actually playing some good football at times and not just hoofing it.

The team selection today was near spot on, and I hope he sticks with it at Forest - as long as Jones' and Fabio's injuries aren't too bad.

I said at the start of the season that we should judge him on 10-12 league games of this season. We're four games into that, and six points isn't a bad start.

So do you think Ned, that Slade deserves to be cut some slack ?


For the time being, yes.

Whether his team selection today and perhaps others games has been forced or not, he has still gone four league games unbeaten and in the 2nd round of the League Cup. There hasn't been any match where we haven't scored yet, and we've only conceded more than one goal once in those five games.

He deserves credit for that, so yes he should be cut some slack for the time being but things can change very quickly in football. If we can avoid defeat at Forest, it will be a decent start though - against a couple of teams who will be up there at the end of the season.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 9:49 pm

Wow


I'm I shocked by the venom and the will for us to be defeated to prove a keyboard point? - no
Am I surprised at the positivity of those who expect to fail but are warming to the cause - yes

Ccfc
One love
:bluebird:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:10 pm

angelis1949 wrote:One swallow does not make a summer, Slade's use of substitutions or should I say lack of them,leaves a lot to be desired

Ameobi?

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:10 pm

angelis1949 wrote:One swallow does not make a summer, Slade's use of substitutions or should I say lack of them,leaves a lot to be desired

Ameobi?

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:12 pm

I didn't want Slade when he got the job and I thought he should have went during our bad run at the turn of the year, but fair play, I'm now beginning to warm to him. We got the makings of a good side here, which is now playing good football, for that Slade deserves credit and long may it continue.

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:18 pm

balkanblue wrote:Silly season is still in full swing. Cut him slack after 1 win in 4? A reality check is needed.




So explain to me who would have done better to date?? :?

Slade cannot really be blamed for the dropped points against Blackburn or the individual mistakes against QPR, so it seems to me you're 'having a pop' out of a certain ignorance...or pure spite! :(

I've not been a great fan of Slade as manager (don't mind the guy as a person) but Carl is correct and now might be a good time to cut him some slack and finally get behind him as well as the team! ;)

As an aside, there were alegedy14,500 today and I ahve to say they made more noise than 20,000+ last season! Well done City fans today! :ayatollah:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:20 pm

carlccfc wrote:" Time to cut Russell Slade some slack "

Slade was certainly not the choice of manager of any Cardiff City fan when Solskjaer was sacked and he has faced a difficult time since his arrival.

Not only has the manager had to cut the wage bill, sell players but he has also had to try and win over a fanbase, including myself, the performances last season didn't go anyway to helping Slade but so far this season there has been an improvement.

This week, leading up to today's game, I spoke to many people and I asked the same question to all, what happens if City don't win but draw against Wolves?

Each and everyone reply I had was almost identical, ' the knives will be out! '

My feeling was that if we had drawn today, the performances have certainly been much improved to what they were last season, so it would have been unjust in my opinion to call for the managers head after better displays and not losing a game in five, if you include the cup win over Wimbledon.

The team are getting the ball down to try and play football, partnerships are forming and triangles of football are evident with more movement than we saw last season.

It does not mean we are world beaters by any stretch of the imagination but there are definite signs of improvement, a togetherness among the players and hopefully confidence will come on the back of these performances and results like today's.

If I have a concern, it would be the confidence of the team, I am hoping we can continue on this mini run we are on, as the team doesn't look like it is brimming with confidence but if we can get a couple of back to back wins, I am hoping that changes quickly.

What I saw today was encouraging indeed, even in the first half when we didn't look brilliant on the ball, what we did have was a good shape, two good banks of four that worked, for the majority of time, in unison. When 4-4-2 works it proves to be difficult to break down and that was clearly what frustrated Wolves today.

Not one shot on target for Wolves this afternoon is testament to the defending of the whole team.

Slade could have been stubborn today and kept belief in Revell but chose to go with the popular choice of Kenwyne Jones and it proved correct, not saying Slade was not going to make the change anyway but the fact is he did and who can complain.

Where Slade perhaps had a little bit of luck was the performance of Fabio, the Brazilian was simply brilliant today but Slade must have been gutted to lose Scott Malone to a sickness bug, who would have thought we would be saying that, as the left back has been a revelation in the early part of the season.

Is Russell Slade a good enough manager to get Cardiff City promoted this season ?

I don't know what the answer is to that but what I will say is, after the first five games of the season, he deserves to be cut some slack and given the opportunity and support from the stands in trying to do so.


We are far from being world beaters but i have to admit we look better as a unit and we are unbeaten in 11 games this swason including pre season games. I am not a fan of Slade but i will hold my hands up and say fair play so far were doing ok buy that win tonight was crucial. But as for your post Carl i agree perhaps we should cut Slade some slack. :bluebird:

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:40 pm

Sven wrote:
balkanblue wrote:Silly season is still in full swing. Cut him slack after 1 win in 4? A reality check is needed.




So explain to me who would have done better to date?? :?

Slade cannot really be blamed for the dropped points against Blackburn or the individual mistakes against QPR, so it seems to me you're 'having a pop' out of a certain ignorance...or pure spite! :(

I've not been a great fan of Slade as manager (don't mind the guy as a person) but Carl is correct and now might be a good time to cut him some slack and finally get behind him as well as the team! ;)

As an aside, there were alegedy14,500 today and I ahve to say they made more noise than 20,000+ last season! Well done City fans today! :ayatollah:




hes just being himself! doesnt really have anything positive to say but its his opinion for what it is worth? :o

Re: ' TIME TO CUT SLADE SOME SLACK '

Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:00 pm

Fabio simply brilliant - Sorry watching a different game to you

Can you explain how he was so brilliant ?