' IS THIS SOMETHING THE CLUB SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT ? '

last season is completely different from this one ! are we allowed 1000 fans at qpr even? its up to fans if they go or not easy to blaame slade as easy target , about 1k have not returned because of rebrand/tan leaves couple thousand not turning up! logic dictates away support will suffer same fate.

why should club be concerned? qpr will get the money its the team that may suffer with lack of support but as we know it hasn't effected us before when fans refused to travel!

Allan, are you ok ?

You are asking yourself questions ?

Of course it is something that should concern the club if this is the start of a trend, less fans = less support.

In the past we have had protests, such as Leeds away last season, and maybe, just maybe, that galvanised the team to put in a performance for the fans but if the away support is consistently low it could have a negative affect rather than a positive one.
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I hope we see big crowds at home and away and sincerely hope that the fans return in big numbers to support the team home and away.

no carl i added second post to 1st one but yes suppirt is slacking but can be for any amount readons stated in this thread! think we need to wait until at least 10 games see how it is then, can gauge better if support will increase as performances and results should increase the support if they are better of course!

last season is completely different from this one ! are we allowed 1000 fans at qpr even? its up to fans if they go or not easy to blaame slade as easy target , about 1k have not returned because of rebrand/tan leaves couple thousand not turning up! logic dictates away support will suffer same fate.

why should club be concerned? qpr will get the money its the team that may suffer with lack of support but as we know it hasn't effected us before when fans refused to travel!

Allan, are you ok ?

You are asking yourself questions ?

Of course it is something that should concern the club if this is the start of a trend, less fans = less support.

In the past we have had protests, such as Leeds away last season, and maybe, just maybe, that galvanised the team to put in a performance for the fans but if the away support is consistently low it could have a negative affect rather than a positive one.
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I hope we see big crowds at home and away and sincerely hope that the fans return in big numbers to support the team home and away.

no carl i added second post to 1st one but yes suppirt is slacking but can be for any amount readons stated in this thread! think we need to wait until at least 10 games see how it is then, can gauge better if support will increase as performances and results should increase the support if they are better of course!

Carl - you are just encouraging the miseries to have a further moan-fest on this board. Never mind the attendance, you'll be driving down the number of hits on the board!

I've been a regular visitor to this board several times a day for the past couple of years, but now I'm down to a few times a week, sometimes not bothering for days on end. AmI the only one who feels like this? Of course, there may be others who have left already .....

The post was designed to, perhaps, hear honest and frank opinions.

Had we been playing say Huddersfield or Rotherham for example I would understand the low take up but being QPR and how City fans have generally travelled in large numbers to London, I am somewhat surprised.

I am wondering is it apathy pointing towards a belief in the club, is it because of last seasons football, is it down to Wales' success and the pending trip to Cyprus that is putting people off ?

I am not convinced that it is cost alone, if at all ?

I believe we may have had a better take up for Rotherham a combination of high ticket prices, QPR stewards and the met is enough to put anyone off

Never ever use to miss any away game anywhere and on any day or at any time, but the passion has been killed off by are own club, its just not the same any more

What the club should seriously be concerned about is the number of season ticket's that weren't sold after the change back to blue, that some on here reckoned would be astronomical if they did that. We are just like any other medium sized club, if we're successful then folks will turn up in greater numbers home and away than if we are not, nothing to do with the colour of the shirt, success is what brings in the fans it's that simple.

Cardiff fans have become a bunch of moaners

What the club should seriously be concerned about is the number of season ticket's that weren't sold after the change back to blue, that some on here reckoned would be astronomical if they did that. We are just like any other medium sized club, if we're successful then folks will turn up in greater numbers home and away than if we are not, nothing to do with the colour of the shirt, success is what brings in the fans it's that simple.

That's precisely it. In a nutshell.

everyone expected us to bounce back to the prem straight away. We had just signed Pilks, Morrison, Manga, ALF, Guerra,and still had Hudson, Kenwynne (who had been on form pre season) and Ole as our manager, we expected to walk the league.

Not now, all the expectation has gone, the fairweather supporters have made their excuses, so we are left with 15000 home attendance and less than 500 travellers. nothing to be concerned about, as i know with a run of 4 good results, the crowds will start to increase.

if we beat qpr and Blackburn I think there will be 18000 for wolves.

Beat wolves and forest, i see 20,000 for huddersfield.

That is football in a rugby City.

Just 2 points. Cardiff IS NOT a rugby City. Any idea what the Blues average attendance is ? Thought not. And I assume you were among the admittedly numerous naive and deluded fans who thought we'd bounce back up last season. I certainly didn't. And more to the point we never will again.

Vincent tan will be at QPR

Kick off time, live on sky, holiday season... Main 3 factors ins you, , you could of posted a headline' quite good away following considering' ..

Totally agree with the above also know plenty who have dug deep over the years and cant be arsed digging deeper to line the pockets of Tan. Plus this rule re having to be a member/ambassador/season ticket holder to get a ticket is a shower of sh*te! Put the tickets on general sale with the rule that every ticket is bought with some id and then maybe more fans would travel

Before I start I'm going Saturday...

Did 8 last year away, This time last year our bus was packed 50 on there no problems.
This trip bearing in mind is the first of the season so hunger for away days is at it's peak we are taking 19!!

I myself think the ticket price although I've paid it is a piss take.
Sky live as everyone has said and I see the point.

But at the end of the day we got our colours and badge back and it's still our team, it's a quick trip up the M4 so what's not to like?

Can you imagine our Blackburn or Leeds (If they dont want us all to turn up in handcuffs and other restrictions) on a Tuesday night?

Scary!!

Kick off time, live on sky, holiday season... Main 3 factors ins you, , you could of posted a headline' quite good away following considering' ..

Totally agree with the above also know plenty who have dug deep over the years and cant be arsed digging deeper to line the pockets of Tan. Plus this rule re having to be a member/ambassador/season ticket holder to get a ticket is a shower of sh*te! Put the tickets on general sale with the rule that every ticket is bought with some id and then maybe more fans would travel

The point you make about having to be a member/ambassador/ST holder is a very valid one in my opinion

everyone expected us to bounce back to the prem straight away. We had just signed Pilks, Morrison, Manga, ALF, Guerra,and still had Hudson, Kenwynne (who had been on form pre season) and Ole as our manager, we expected to walk the league.

Not now, all the expectation has gone, the fairweather supporters have made their excuses, so we are left with 15000 home attendance and less than 500 travellers. nothing to be concerned about, as i know with a run of 4 good results, the crowds will start to increase.

if we beat qpr and Blackburn I think there will be 18000 for wolves.

Beat wolves and forest, i see 20,000 for huddersfield.

That is football in a rugby City.

Just 2 points. Cardiff IS NOT a rugby City. Any idea what the Blues average attendance is ? Thought not. And I assume you were among the admittedly numerous naive and deluded fans who thought we'd bounce back up last season. I certainly didn't. And more to the point we never will again.

First off please excuse my stupidity, No, Cardiff is not a rugby City domestically. I was trying to say that if you put a rugby international on at the same time as a City home game, the majority of the fairweather supporters will go for the egg, it's an unfortunate fact.

As for the numerous nieve and deluded supporters who thought that we were going to bounce back up, then yes I was, and I also believe we will go up this year, if not this year, then next year.

It's not deluded, it's optemistic!!! What else should i be hoping for, Survival? Sorry, i'll leave that to the many negative posters on here.

everyone expected us to bounce back to the prem straight away. We had just signed Pilks, Morrison, Manga, ALF, Guerra,and still had Hudson, Kenwynne (who had been on form pre season) and Ole as our manager, we expected to walk the league.

Not now, all the expectation has gone, the fairweather supporters have made their excuses, so we are left with 15000 home attendance and less than 500 travellers. nothing to be concerned about, as i know with a run of 4 good results, the crowds will start to increase.

if we beat qpr and Blackburn I think there will be 18000 for wolves.

Beat wolves and forest, i see 20,000 for huddersfield.

That is football in a rugby City.

Just 2 points. Cardiff IS NOT a rugby City. Any idea what the Blues average attendance is ? Thought not. And I assume you were among the admittedly numerous naive and deluded fans who thought we'd bounce back up last season. I certainly didn't. And more to the point we never will again.

First off please excuse my stupidity, No, Cardiff is not a rugby City domestically. I was trying to say that if you put a rugby international on at the same time as a City home game, the majority of the fairweather supporters will go for the egg, it's an unfortunate fact.

As for the numerous nieve and deluded supporters who thought that we were going to bounce back up, then yes I was, and I also believe we will go up this year, if not this year, then next year.

It's not deluded, it's optemistic!!! What else should i be hoping for, Survival? Sorry, i'll leave that to the many negative posters on here.

But isn't there a more reasonable half way house between this positive/negative argument? Its simply being realistic. In which case the truth is we are probably a bit too good to get relegated but nowhere near good enough to be within a shout of promotion. There's no real quality in the team apart from Manga, Marshall and Ralls and one of them is likely to leave and another can't be certain of playing regularly. It might be hard to take but that's life, there's many clubs would settle for being midtable in the Championship!

everyone expected us to bounce back to the prem straight away. We had just signed Pilks, Morrison, Manga, ALF, Guerra,and still had Hudson, Kenwynne (who had been on form pre season) and Ole as our manager, we expected to walk the league.

Not now, all the expectation has gone, the fairweather supporters have made their excuses, so we are left with 15000 home attendance and less than 500 travellers. nothing to be concerned about, as i know with a run of 4 good results, the crowds will start to increase.

if we beat qpr and Blackburn I think there will be 18000 for wolves.

Beat wolves and forest, i see 20,000 for huddersfield.

That is football in a rugby City.

Just 2 points. Cardiff IS NOT a rugby City. Any idea what the Blues average attendance is ? Thought not. And I assume you were among the admittedly numerous naive and deluded fans who thought we'd bounce back up last season. I certainly didn't. And more to the point we never will again.

First off please excuse my stupidity, No, Cardiff is not a rugby City domestically. I was trying to say that if you put a rugby international on at the same time as a City home game, the majority of the fairweather supporters will go for the egg, it's an unfortunate fact.

As for the numerous nieve and deluded supporters who thought that we were going to bounce back up, then yes I was, and I also believe we will go up this year, if not this year, then next year.

It's not deluded, it's optemistic!!! What else should i be hoping for, Survival? Sorry, i'll leave that to the many negative posters on here.

But isn't there a more reasonable half way house between this positive/negative argument? Its simply being realistic. In which case the truth is we are probably a bit too good to get relegated but nowhere near good enough to be within a shout of promotion. There's no real quality in the team apart from Manga, Marshall and Ralls and one of them is likely to leave and another can't be certain of playing regularly. It might be hard to take but that's life, there's many clubs would settle for being midtable in the Championship!

That's fair enough, but it's not a camp i can be in. I'm all for promotion every season!!!

All of the Players can be quality in my Blue tinted spectacles, as they are all Bluebirds!!!!!

I think it's a good away support for a mid table championship team. On the other hand it is your first away game along the M4 on a Saturday and less than 3hours on the road.



" Once we turn back to blue the fans will come back in droves"

The massive difference was that there was hope that we would go straight back up and potentially have a similar season to our first year in red. That hope was destroyed quickly by Ole and rightfully got sacked. This season we know we're just an average team trying to make the play offs so we've basically taken a bit of a leap backwards and in the same position as we were 10 years ago.

Might seem like excuses to some and some probably are but no doubt these factors are having an effect.

1.) Its on Sky
2.) Early evening kick off
3.) Old Ground, visited many times by lots of us
4.) Lots of people still on Holidays/about to go on Holidays
5.) Its £32 a ticket
6.) Cyprus is in a few weeks and 4,000 Wales fans are expected to travel, I would imagine a fair % of those would travel to Cardiff away matches but are swerving this to keep money for their trip. (I know a few who are anyway)
7.) Apathy towards Russel Slade's laedership
8.) Apathy towards the club in general which cannot be fixed overnight
9.) Potential for Wales to qualify for France next year, that is something most people (myself included) will need to save for and sacrifices will have to be made along the way for that, for some that might be knocking a few away games on the head this year.

For me personally, out of that lot, 3, 4 and 9 are the main reasons I am swerving this.