" I WAS NEVER GIVEN A FAIR CHANCE BY THE CLUB "

Tried to edit the spelling mistakes/ predictive script but it wont let me and for some reason tripled my post sorry guys
and annis I do know mason met him in ninnion pub a few times generally like his posts
but not his comments this time as you know I allways give my honest oppinions some are liked some are not
had no intention of being rude
and being old enough to be masons grandfather I could have taken exception to being addressed as pal
but conversations on message boards have a habit of becoming out of order/ context

Steve

Tried to edit the spelling mistakes/ predictive script but it wont let me and for some reason tripled my post sorry guys
and annis I do know mason met him in ninnion pub a few times generally like his posts
but not his comments this time as you know I allways give my honest oppinions some are liked some are not
had no intention of being rude
and being old enough to be masons grandfather I could have taken exception to being addressed as pal
but conversations on message boards have a habit of becoming out of order/ context

Steve, we've had a good debate, we'll have a good chat when I'm over next in the Sand Martin

at last a bit of honesty from a player leaving club, he says its both his and clubs fault ! but i feel he should have been given a chance but guess more to it than just what he as said.

Total shame a player of his quality hasn't been given a chance. Just goes to show what type of manager Slade is...

and what kind of manager would that be then mason
Give us your undoubted experienced view of management built up over what 16 years is it or are you 17 now
Stick to copy and pasting

To be honest pal, I'm still a bit shocked how people think we are going to move forward under a poor League 1 Manager, I was the first to say when he was appointed to give him a chance as I believe everyone deserves a chance, but unfortunately he hasn't proved himself, clueless - wasted quality players such as Guerra and Le Fondre and now Adeyemi - but no probs let's just continue being rumored with League 1 players !

What, you telling me that you expected a manager, who has never managed above league 1 level to have achieved more than what he actually did last season?? I don't care if you do play football and know Spanish football! You obviously have strange expectations quite frankly Slade did better under the circumstances than many expected. The question is can he surpass expectations now he has had a chance to get a pre season and his own players in, I am prepared to give him the usual 10 games before I pass judgement

at last a bit of honesty from a player leaving club, he says its both his and clubs fault ! but i feel he should have been given a chance but guess more to it than just what he as said.

Total shame a player of his quality hasn't been given a chance. Just goes to show what type of manager Slade is...

and what kind of manager would that be then mason
Give us your undoubted experienced view of management built up over what 16 years is it or are you 17 now
Stick to copy and pasting

To be honest pal, I'm still a bit shocked how people think we are going to move forward under a poor League 1 Manager, I was the first to say when he was appointed to give him a chance as I believe everyone deserves a chance, but unfortunately he hasn't proved himself, clueless - wasted quality players such as Guerra and Le Fondre and now Adeyemi - but no probs let's just continue being rumored with League 1 players !

What, you telling me that you expected a manager, who has never managed above league 1 level to have achieved more than what he actually did last season?? I don't care if you do play football and know Spanish football! You obviously have strange expectations quite frankly Slade did better under the circumstances than many expected. The question is can he surpass expectations now he has had a chance to get a pre season and his own players in, I am prepared to give him the usual 10 games before I pass judgement

He's got NO Championship experience - you expect him to take us forward? Madness

I'm not a fan of Slade - I will support him during his time at the club, honestly don't think he's the right man to take us forward, IMO he's already been given his chance but hey ho hope he proves me wrong next season

I'm not a fan of Slade - I will support him during his time at the club, honestly don't think he's the right man to take us forward, IMO he's already been given his chance but hey ho hope he proves me wrong next season

So being as its obvious that the club will not pay the salary for a top manager like Pulis and are intent on cutting the wage structure and squad size And still hoping to have a crack at the top six, who do you suggest are The obvious better options for the managers job ???

I'm not a fan of Slade - I will support him during his time at the club, honestly don't think he's the right man to take us forward, IMO he's already been given his chance but hey ho hope he proves me wrong next season

So being as its obvious that the club will not pay the salary for a top manager like Pulis and are intent on cutting the wage structure and squad size And still hoping to have a crack at the top six, who do you suggest are The obvious better options for the managers job ???

That's not the point, the point is that he should never have been appointed in the first place. With Tan as our owner we will never get a well known experienced manager, only a puppet unfortunately. Tony Pulis admitted he wanted the job but Tan never offered it to him. Uwe Rosler would be my choice We need an experienced manager at this level..

I'm not a fan of Slade - I will support him during his time at the club, honestly don't think he's the right man to take us forward, IMO he's already been given his chance but hey ho hope he proves me wrong next season

So being as its obvious that the club will not pay the salary for a top manager like Pulis and are intent on cutting the wage structure and squad size And still hoping to have a crack at the top six, who do you suggest are The obvious better options for the managers job ???

That's not the point, the point is that he should never have been appointed in the first place. Tony Pulis admitted he wanted the job but Tan never offered it to him. Uwe Rosler would be my choice We need an experienced manager at this level..

Spot on Mason

Guerra looked class that one game he came on early in the season, he didn't give the ball away once! Unfortunately, it seems obvious both Ole and Slade were instructed by Tan not to play him, probably because Guerra had appearance fees and goal bonus fees we couldn't afford to pay out when we went back to the Championship.

According to the anti Slade mob, it's 100% Slade's fault for not giving Guerra a chance mind.

I'm not a fan of Slade - I will support him during his time at the club, honestly don't think he's the right man to take us forward, IMO he's already been given his chance but hey ho hope he proves me wrong next season

So being as its obvious that the club will not pay the salary for a top manager like Pulis and are intent on cutting the wage structure and squad size And still hoping to have a crack at the top six, who do you suggest are The obvious better options for the managers job ???

That's not the point, the point is that he should never have been appointed in the first place. Tony Pulis admitted he wanted the job but Tan never offered it to him. Uwe Rosler would be my choice We need an experienced manager at this level..

Spot on Mason

That is the point though, the club did not want to pay the money for a proven manager, so your left with taking a chance. Your making yourself out to be a clown, if on the one hand your saying that we needed experience and then suggesting a manager (Rosler) who has probably got no more than a hundred and odd games under him as a manager and was sacked by Wigan because he had taken them into the relegation zone. I'm in no way a Slade fan, but we are where we are and supporters need to understand that we have to start the building process again. No point in criticising every little thing and every single day. He deserves support for at least the next 10 games rather than constant sniping

I'm not a fan of Slade - I will support him during his time at the club, honestly don't think he's the right man to take us forward, IMO he's already been given his chance but hey ho hope he proves me wrong next season

So being as its obvious that the club will not pay the salary for a top manager like Pulis and are intent on cutting the wage structure and squad size And still hoping to have a crack at the top six, who do you suggest are The obvious better options for the managers job ???

That's not the point, the point is that he should never have been appointed in the first place. Tony Pulis admitted he wanted the job but Tan never offered it to him. Uwe Rosler would be my choice We need an experienced manager at this level..

Spot on Mason

That is the point though, the club did not want to pay the money for a proven manager, so your left with taking a chance. Your making yourself out to be a clown, if on the one hand your saying that we needed experience and then suggesting a manager (Rosler) who has probably got no more than a hundred and odd games under him as a manager and was sacked by Wigan because he had taken them into the relegation zone. I'm in no way a Slade fan, but we are where we are and supporters need to understand that we have to start the building process again. No point in criticising every little thing and every single day. He deserves support for at least the next 10 games rather than constant sniping

And I've said I will support Slade while he's at the club as he's the manager of the club I love Plus, we didn't appoint a proven experienced manager not because Tan didn't want to pay the money but because he wanted a puppet someone who will do just as he says - don't think Tony Pulis would have been prepared to do that - Slade in my mind is def not the right man to take us forward I can assure you that - Rosler, has still got those hundred and odd games of more experience than Slade, At this level it's important to have an experienced manager, and I'm afraid Slade is far from that....

at last a bit of honesty from a player leaving club, he says its both his and clubs fault ! but i feel he should have been given a chance but guess more to it than just what he as said.

Total shame a player of his quality hasn't been given a chance. Just goes to show what type of manager Slade is...

and what kind of manager would that be then mason
Give us your undoubted experienced view of management built up over what 16 years is it or are you 17 now
Stick to copy and pasting

To be honest pal, I'm still a bit shocked how people think we are going to move forward under a poor League 1 Manager, I was the first to say when he was appointed to give him a chance as I believe everyone deserves a chance, but unfortunately he hasn't proved himself, clueless - wasted quality players such as Guerra and Le Fondre and now Adeyemi - but no probs let's just continue being rumored with League 1 players !

What, you telling me that you expected a manager, who has never managed above league 1 level to have achieved more than what he actually did last season?? I don't care if you do play football and know Spanish football! You obviously have strange expectations quite frankly Slade did better under the circumstances than many expected. The question is can he surpass expectations now he has had a chance to get a pre season and his own players in, I am prepared to give him the usual 10 games before I pass judgement

He's got NO Championship experience - you expect him to take us forward? Madness

How much championship experience did the Norwich manager have when he took over and got them into the premiership
Mason sorry your a nice young lad but in this debate your IMO wrong the city managers job at this time is not as straight foreword as you think

at last a bit of honesty from a player leaving club, he says its both his and clubs fault ! but i feel he should have been given a chance but guess more to it than just what he as said.

Total shame a player of his quality hasn't been given a chance. Just goes to show what type of manager Slade is...

and what kind of manager would that be then mason
Give us your undoubted experienced view of management built up over what 16 years is it or are you 17 now
Stick to copy and pasting

To be honest pal, I'm still a bit shocked how people think we are going to move forward under a poor League 1 Manager, I was the first to say when he was appointed to give him a chance as I believe everyone deserves a chance, but unfortunately he hasn't proved himself, clueless - wasted quality players such as Guerra and Le Fondre and now Adeyemi - but no probs let's just continue being rumored with League 1 players !

What, you telling me that you expected a manager, who has never managed above league 1 level to have achieved more than what he actually did last season?? I don't care if you do play football and know Spanish football! You obviously have strange expectations quite frankly Slade did better under the circumstances than many expected. The question is can he surpass expectations now he has had a chance to get a pre season and his own players in, I am prepared to give him the usual 10 games before I pass judgement

He's got NO Championship experience - you expect him to take us forward? Madness

How much championship experience did the Norwich manager have when he took over and got them into the premiership
Mason sorry your a nice young lad but in this debate your IMO wrong the city managers job at this time is not as straight foreword as you think

I just don't think Slade is the right man to take us forward Steve, the football under his management last season was dire, do you really think it's going to improve next season under him? I've always said I will support him while he's at the club as he's the manager of the club I support and love, but the Championship is one league to high for him unfortunately... At this level the key is to have an experienced man in charge, our aim is to get promoted next season - I just can't see Slade delivering that? I hope he proves me wrong... Steve, the poll shows 70% of our fans don't think he's the right man to take us forward... We can't all be wrong

My Opinion, I don't rate SLADE,no confidence in him, if he was any good after 700 games, he would already have been a Championship manager and he's just Tans puppet.
But, I support Cardiff City and the team, so every game I will be cheering them all on

Firstly I think the club has stated we are aiming for a top 6 Finnish
Secondly i take no notice of polls on this forum as its only a very small proportion of our actual fan numbers
Also with any poll like this the nays always seem to voice there opinions where as the ayes don't seem to bother to vote
I haven't bothered to

Mason may only be 17 but he is more clued up than most when it comes to football on here. The lad knows his football and has proven it time and time again. He's also shown a maturity in not rising to some of the earlier comments made in this thread.

As for Guerra, it was blindingly obvious he wasn't given a chance by either Solskjaer or Slade. Why? Nobody will ever really know and as Guerra says the truth probably lies somewhere around the 50/50 mark. The fact is, Slade is well out of his depth, doesn't have the tactical nous or contacts in the footballing world to draw in experienced veterans who know what it takes to get out of this division and he also has no plan b.

The fact is, we now have a manager, for all of our crying and sulking who is more boring than Malky, has less of a plan a nevermind plan b than David Jones and has about as many decent contacts in the game as Solskjaer does multiplied by zero.

Dave Jones would have had Guerra playing off someone like Bothroyd in a heartbeat on the knock downs, linking up and he'd also have probably got the best out of players like Daehli (granted, he was Ole's signing). We cried and cried for a manager who could do it all and now we have someone who can do nothing at all.

Mason may only be 17 but he is more clued up than most when it comes to football on here. The lad knows his football and has proven it time and time again. He's also shown a maturity in not rising to some of the earlier comments made in this thread.

As for Guerra, it was blindingly obvious he wasn't given a chance by either Solskjaer or Slade. Why? Nobody will ever really know and as Guerra says the truth probably lies somewhere around the 50/50 mark. The fact is, Slade is well out of his depth, doesn't have the tactical nous or contacts in the footballing world to draw in experienced veterans who know what it takes to get out of this division and he also has no plan b.

The fact is, we now have a manager, for all of our crying and sulking who is more boring than Malky, has less of a plan a nevermind plan b than David Jones and has about as many decent contacts in the game as Solskjaer does multiplied by zero.

Dave Jones would have had Guerra playing off someone like Bothroyd in a heartbeat on the knock downs, linking up and he'd also have probably got the best out of players like Daehli (granted, he was Ole's signing). We cried and cried for a manager who could do it all and now we have someone who can do nothing at all.

Cheers appreciate that

And I totally agree regarding Guerra

Mason may only be 17 but he is more clued up than most when it comes to football on here. The lad knows his football and has proven it time and time again. He's also shown a maturity in not rising to some of the earlier comments made in this thread.

As for Guerra, it was blindingly obvious he wasn't given a chance by either Solskjaer or Slade. Why? Nobody will ever really know and as Guerra says the truth probably lies somewhere around the 50/50 mark. The fact is, Slade is well out of his depth, doesn't have the tactical nous or contacts in the footballing world to draw in experienced veterans who know what it takes to get out of this division and he also has no plan b.

The fact is, we now have a manager, for all of our crying and sulking who is more boring than Malky, has less of a plan a nevermind plan b than David Jones and has about as many decent contacts in the game as Solskjaer does multiplied by zero.

Dave Jones would have had Guerra playing off someone like Bothroyd in a heartbeat on the knock downs, linking up and he'd also have probably got the best out of players like Daehli (granted, he was Ole's signing). We cried and cried for a manager who could do it all and now we have someone who can do nothing at all.

Spot on and I was not even a DJ fan,but he was better than Slade,plus young Mason certainly knows his football

at last a bit of honesty from a player leaving club, he says its both his and clubs fault ! but i feel he should have been given a chance but guess more to it than just what he as said.

Total shame a player of his quality hasn't been given a chance. Just goes to show what type of manager Slade is...

and what kind of manager would that be then mason
Give us your undoubted experienced view of management built up over what 16 years is it or are you 17 now
Stick to copy and pasting

Steve,

What level of football have you played at ?

I played Welsh League but never to the level that Mason played.

As experience goes, does it mean that an old man watching football has more experience and opinion than a 17 yr old who plays for a professional football club?

Just wondering because what I hear from you when you are pissed doesn't compare to my conversations with Mason.