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We don't play academy products anyway so wtp

The Jacks have recruited kids from all over Cardiff and they train in the Heath every week, they are recruiting kids from every where, What are we doing? ?

I honestly cant see why you are not upset? ? ?

Dont you want to hear of Cardiff recruiting kids every where and kids in Cardiff shirts? ? ?

We can't do anything when we don't have anything to show for it is what I'm saying. No Cardiff player from our academy is playing. They're released or languishing in development squads and then released. Swansea have the PL cash, we don't. We go down the short term future, not the long term.

And thats because we are run by idiots/clueless about football and dont care for the future of Cardiff City.

DJ gave Ramsey, Gunter and Ledley first team opportunities. Malky didn't give a chance to any Welsh youth players. Ole was barely here and was in the Prem so couldn't throw any Welsh youth players at the deep end and Slade is a bit stubborn

Its not just down to the managers,its down to the owners to put the structure in place

Managers choose the team come the end of the day

Whats that got to do with the Jacks taking all our kids,youve totally changed the topic? ?

You started of by virtually saying you did not care

You really dont seem to get it or dont really care? ?

I'm not sure your getting the point.

I'm saying Swansea give a chance to academy products. I said I don't care in a sarcastic manner because we've not emphasised our academy for years.

I obviously do get it and have given many points

Do Swansea have any of their own kids in academy? Because sounds like they have taken every available kid within 50mile radius of swansea?

maybe neuturekids!elp spread some light on this swansea have quite a few kids from swansea also tenby carmarthen haverford west
also quite a few from bridgend cardiff and newport i know of 4 boys who were in cardiff development got strung along for a year 18 months and swansea signed them and before people shout me down saying if they were good enough cardiff would have kept them etc the same boys played southhampton reading west brom beat them and went undefeated in 10 matches in poland and won a cup there how do i know this its because my grandson plays for swansea city academy even though we are both cardiff season ticket holders and cardiff fans he was never scouted by cardiff ever by the way we live in the rhondda

As I've said before it's to be expected that premier club look at kids from surrounding areas! Its football and happens all over the country and club survives and thrive in shodows of such clubs. And swans academy must be huge with all these kids joining them ?

not as many kids as you might think i think theres about 30 odd kids in the academy from age 9 to 11 there was a few let go in may development center wise there are hundreds all over the region

That's my point can only have so many in academy itself! Way people are talking they have hundreds in academy!! While its a common thing for premier clubs to do what swans are doing there is still lots scope for all clubs to find and neuture kids.

Can you name one kid that Swansea have picked up that we wanted? Probably not!

Plenty Mac that are in the Marshfields kids teams.

If they were any good,I'm pretty sure that Cardiff would be aware of them.

Mac, If were are not losing loads now, say just a few, at this rate,the Jacks will be picking up all the youngsters around our areas. I know a young lad called Miles, who the Jacks have asked to come and train with them, he would rather of gone to Cardiff but they never been over to watch.

If he is one of the top one or two players in the league then Cardiff would be aware of him. Swansea have just started in the area so will take pretty much anyone to fill their centres. The fact is they are only doing what we have done in their areas for many years.
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If he is one of the top one or two players in the league then Cardiff would be aware of him. Swansea have just started in the area so will take pretty much anyone to fill their centres. The fact is they are only doing what we have done in their areas for many years.
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Mac, City only take the top 2 players from the Leagues? I cant say Miles is,but I can say he is worth looking at

The reality is,if you are the best in your local league then you may have a chance of getting into an academy, any less than that ,you have no chance. The step up in quality is massive.

Jacks have 4x our income.
Nothing for them to spend £1m on academies.

You can moan all you want, but until we are playing at the same level then we won't be able to compete in terms of spending on academies.

If you want it to change, buy tickets for the games and support the team, also be positive and make it a place where others want to go rather than avoid due to the miserable negativity that so many of our fans seem to love.

Jacks have 4x our income.
Nothing for them to spend £1m on academies.

You can moan all you want, but until we are playing at the same level then we won't be able to compete in terms of spending on academies.

If you want it to change, buy tickets for the games and support the team, also be positive and make it a place where others want to go rather than avoid due to the miserable negativity that so many of our fans seem to love.

Absolutely this!

The jacks were in merthyr today and were beaten 3-1 by merthyr

Annis. This will be a fascinating read in ten years time IMO.

That's when we will see the benefits of what the swans are doing. By then we will be light years behind them.

Bit like when France dominated the international scene, they had been developing technique etc. where as the English were concentrating on having the best league in the world.

I can see Swansea being a big club one day. Not completely down to them, but also to our club gifting them talent.

Rambo is the best Welsh player for me, ahead of Bale. And he's one of us. If we miss out on more like that then we might as well give up now. Shame we missed out on Bale.

Cardiff need to start taking control and if and I mean if Tan wants our club to succeed he needs to get his staff in to action.
Even kids in places like Marshfield by me,Swansea have recruited them and you now see Jack shirts on kids

IRELAND, CARDIFF, BRISTOL…SWANSEA’S YOUTH RECRUITMENT CONTINUES TO EXPAND


By: Scott Mackayon:

Sat July 11, 2015

This week we saw the official announcement of the Swans’ link with Merthyr Town’s academy – the latest in a string of positive moves from the club’s youth development program.

Merthyr, an area which has traditionally seen a lot of support for the Swans’ rivals Cardiff, have recently risen from the ashes thanks to supporter involvement and are now an entirely fan-owned club.

Having won the Evo-Stik League Southern Division 1 (South and West) title last season just five seasons after being expelled following liquidation, they’re now set to play in the Southern League Premier Division next season, and are understandably keen to build links with a Premier League side.
Don't see one in port talbot we always be blue in port talbot
The link up with the Swans will see two sessions a week held with the assistance of Swans’ Academy coaches, and academy manager Nigel Rees is confident the partnership will be good for all involved:

“Areas like Merthyr have an abundance of talent. We hope this partnership can help develop more young players who will hopefully go on to have a career in football with the ultimate goal of playing at a professional level.

“We want to support academies like Merthyr and develop their coaching programme in line with the Swansea way. The enthusiasm for this partnership is clear to see at Merthyr Town, and we have had a very warm welcome from players, staff and parents.”

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It’s not just Merthyr that’s set to learn the Swansea way though. Plans go much further. As revealed at the beginning of June we’re also now opening three development centres in Ireland & Northern Ireland (Cork, Dublin & Belfast), and Swansea Academy’s head of recruitment Martin Evans is excited about the potential the link-up offers

“We see Ireland as an area that has a lot of potential for us. The big clubs are increasingly looking to Africa and other far off places and tending to neglect Ireland a bit. We feel there’s potential for us to work there, there’s talent and it’s a good fit, there’s that Celtic connection. We’ve brought a few lads over from Ireland recently and they’re happy to come to us.”
While other clubs may be happy regularly spending big, that’s not the plan for the Swans. Highly rated youngster Stephen Fallon is just one player who has already been brought over from Ireland, and by bringing players through young, and developing a conveyor belt of talent, Evans is hopeful we can compete with clubs who have much, much more disposable income:

“That’s the philosophy. Only a couple of the regulars in the senior squad are Welsh but that’s why the club is spending all the money, we want to produce our own lads and retain a local flavour to the team.”

“The players are coming through together and that’s a good thing. We used to lose a few to the big English clubs but that’s rare now really. Here at Swansea we have Category One status now which means that the teams will be playing against the very best sides, the Arsenal’s and Chelsea’s, all the way up from the age of nine.

“We have a great facility and well-qualified coaches so why would anyone go to England really when they can get the football education they need here at home.”

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You could be forgiven for thinking that with work ongoing to further develop the Landore & Fairwood sites, plus burgeoning links with Merthyr and Ireland, that’d be enough for the Swans to get on with. It doesn’t end there though.

The Swans now have development centres dotted around Wales, and have even crossed the Severn Bridge and set one up in Bristol. Here’s a full list of the Swans’ youth development centres from the academy website:

Swans Academy

Landore Training Ground, Beaufort Road, Plasmarl, Swansea, South Wales SA6 8AX

Cwmdu Development Centre

Swans Development Centre, Cwmdu Industrial Estate, Carmarthen Road, Swansea SA5 8JF

Pontardawe Development Centre

Pontardawe Leisure Centre, Parc Ynysderw, Ffordd Parc Ynysderw, Pontardawe, Swansea SA8 4EG

Haverfordwest Development Centre

Tasker-Milward V.C. School, Portfield Avenue, Portfield, Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire SA61 1EQ

Cambrian Development Centre

Cambrian Sports Academy, Kings George V New Field, Clydach Vale CF40 2XX

Aberystwyth Development Centre

Aberystwyth University, Blaendolau Playing Fields SY23 3FL

Bridgend Development Centre

Bryntirion Park, Llangewydd Road, Bridgend, Mid Glamorgan CF31 4JU

Fairwood Development Centre Address:

Fairwood Training Ground, Swansea SA2 7JX

Carmarthen Development Centre

Carmarthen Leisure Centre, Llansteffan Road, Carmarthen SA31 3NQ

Treorchy Development Centre

Sports Yard Ltd, Ynyswen Industrial Estate, Treorchy, Mid Glamorgan CF42 6EP

Aberdare Development Centre

Sobell Sport Centre, The Ynys, Aberdare, CF44 7RP

Lampeter Development Centre

Lampeter Leisure Centre, Peterwell Terrace, Lampeter, Dyfed, SA48 7BX

Bristol Development Centre

Clifton College, Guthrie Road, Bristol BS8 3EZ

For a club which had literally no facilities a decade ago we’re certainly making dramatic inroads now. Here are the sites plotted on a map, to give you an idea of how far we’re now spreading our net.

Swans Development Centre Swansea City

Seen like that it really is telling how much we’re expanding, and how quickly. If this is how much we’ve expanded in the last ten years (probably the last five years if we’re being honest, as the club’s expansion began in earnest with promotion to the Premier League), I can’t wait to see how the youth network looks in ten years time.

Don't worry about them swings and roundabouts when we were the top club we had them everywhere they got the upper hand know but it can easily change .nice to see there's no jack academy in port talbot port talbot is blue

If he is one of the top one or two players in the league then Cardiff would be aware of him. Swansea have just started in the area so will take pretty much anyone to fill their centres. The fact is they are only doing what we have done in their areas for many years.
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Mac, City only take the top 2 players from the Leagues? I cant say Miles is,but I can say he is worth looking at

The Jacks have three players in their main academy that Cardiff also looked at but Swansea offered 2 year deals to quickly to secure them, one from Trowbridge, one from Sully and one from Ely. Also my sons Cardiff and district A league side have had 7 players over at Newport County all week and have also been approached by Swansea coaches to all go and train with Merthyr town with a view to playing for their academy in the welsh league, all these players live in Cardiff, some support the City, and the others don't really care

Annis. This will be a fascinating read in ten years time IMO.

That's when we will see the benefits of what the swans are doing. By then we will be light years behind them.

Bit like when France dominated the international scene, they had been developing technique etc. where as the English were concentrating on having the best league in the world.

I can see Swansea being a big club one day. Not completely down to them, but also to our club gifting them talent.

Rambo is the best Welsh player for me, ahead of Bale. And he's one of us. If we miss out on more like that then we might as well give up now. Shame we missed out on Bale.

This is why we need to act now and not be left years behind them.
In my opinion City could still take control even at this stage

Does this approach work ???

Most clubs would say no, and most of these players that get near the top ( 0.0001%) end up on loan in the Championship anyway.

Almost all these boys, and more often than not their wishful Dad's will end up disappointed, and either playing the odd Welsh League game or parks football.

Besides no point in worrying about something you can do nothing about.....

If he is one of the top one or two players in the league then Cardiff would be aware of him. Swansea have just started in the area so will take pretty much anyone to fill their centres. The fact is they are only doing what we have done in their areas for many years.
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Mac, City only take the top 2 players from the Leagues? I cant say Miles is,but I can say he is worth looking at

The Jacks have three players in their main academy that Cardiff also looked at but Swansea offered 2 year deals to quickly to secure them, one from Trowbridge, one from Sully and one from Ely. Also my sons Cardiff and district A league side have had 7 players over at Newport County all week and have also been approached by Swansea coaches to all go and train with Merthyr town with a view to playing for their academy in the welsh league, all these players live in Cardiff, some support the City, and the others don't really care

Cardiff seen them and they weren't could enough that's why they ended up at Swansea

f**k the jacks

Does this approach work ???

Most clubs would say no, and most of these players that get near the top ( 0.0001%) end up on loan in the Championship anyway.

Almost all these boys, and more often than not their wishful Dad's will end up disappointed, and either playing the odd Welsh League game or parks football.

Besides no point in worrying about something you can do nothing about.....

Mark, for me its not just about that,it hurts seeing kids in cardiff areas wearing Swansea shirts and also they take them down to the Liberty on tours and days out etc.

We don't play academy products anyway so wtp

The Jacks have recruited kids from all over Cardiff and they train in the Heath every week, they are recruiting kids from every where, What are we doing? ?

I honestly cant see why you are not upset? ? ?

Dont you want to hear of Cardiff recruiting kids every where and kids in Cardiff shirts? ? ?

We can't do anything when we don't have anything to show for it is what I'm saying. No Cardiff player from our academy is playing. They're released or languishing in development squads and then released. Swansea have the PL cash, we don't. We go down the short term future, not the long term.

And thats because we are run by idiots/clueless about football and dont care for the future of Cardiff City.

Annis, just get it into your head, that at this point in time Swansea are not only in a higher division bringing in far more revenue, but they have a better management structure and a better academy in place. It will not last for ever and we will catchup. My advice to you is start supporting the club, as you used to do. To be honest,Swansea bringing on these players will also benefit City, as the promising lads can't all remain at Swansea, they will inevitably come to us.

Does this approach work ???

Most clubs would say no, and most of these players that get near the top ( 0.0001%) end up on loan in the Championship anyway.

Almost all these boys, and more often than not their wishful Dad's will end up disappointed, and either playing the odd Welsh League game or parks football.

Besides no point in worrying about something you can do nothing about.....

Mark, for me its not just about that,it hurts seeing kids in cardiff areas wearing Swansea shirts and also they take them down to the Liberty on tours and days out etc.

Not so keen on that either, but as said below, they can't take them all and we will benefit from some of them too

We don't play academy products anyway so wtp

The Jacks have recruited kids from all over Cardiff and they train in the Heath every week, they are recruiting kids from every where, What are we doing? ?

I honestly cant see why you are not upset? ? ?

Dont you want to hear of Cardiff recruiting kids every where and kids in Cardiff shirts? ? ?

We can't do anything when we don't have anything to show for it is what I'm saying. No Cardiff player from our academy is playing. They're released or languishing in development squads and then released. Swansea have the PL cash, we don't. We go down the short term future, not the long term.

And thats because we are run by idiots/clueless about football and dont care for the future of Cardiff City.

Annis, just get it into your head, that at this point in time Swansea are not only in a higher division bringing in far more revenue, but they have a better management structure and a better academy in place. It will not last for ever and we will catchup. My advice to you is start supporting the club, as you used to do. To be honest,Swansea bringing on these players will also benefit City, as the promising lads can't all remain at Swansea, they will inevitably come to us.

Sadly I agree they have, but we were in the Prem less than over a year ago and thanks to the regime we fucked it up big time.
I love local players making it and playing for their home town club Cardiff City

May be we can benefit from players not good enough for Swansea, ala a feeder club

We don't play academy products anyway so wtp

The Jacks have recruited kids from all over Cardiff and they train in the Heath every week, they are recruiting kids from every where, What are we doing? ?

I honestly cant see why you are not upset? ? ?

Dont you want to hear of Cardiff recruiting kids every where and kids in Cardiff shirts? ? ?

We can't do anything when we don't have anything to show for it is what I'm saying. No Cardiff player from our academy is playing. They're released or languishing in development squads and then released. Swansea have the PL cash, we don't. We go down the short term future, not the long term.

And thats because we are run by idiots/clueless about football and dont care for the future of Cardiff City.

Annis, just get it into your head, that at this point in time Swansea are not only in a higher division bringing in far more revenue, but they have a better management structure and a better academy in place. It will not last for ever and we will catchup. My advice to you is start supporting the club, as you used to do. To be honest,Swansea bringing on these players will also benefit City, as the promising lads can't all remain at Swansea, they will inevitably come to us.

Sadly I agree they have, but we were in the Prem less than over a year ago and thanks to the regime we fucked it up big time.
I love local players making it and playing for their home town club Cardiff City

Like you I love local players coming through, but this could actually benefit us in the long run. Let the Jacks spend all the money for once in moulding these players, then we step in, when they can't break into Swanseas squad I would be happy with that until we get back into the Premiership

Have Swansea signed anyone who is better than what we have ?

If he is one of the top one or two players in the league then Cardiff would be aware of him. Swansea have just started in the area so will take pretty much anyone to fill their centres. The fact is they are only doing what we have done in their areas for many years.
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Mac, City only take the top 2 players from the Leagues? I cant say Miles is,but I can say he is worth looking at

The Jacks have three players in their main academy that Cardiff also looked at but Swansea offered 2 year deals to quickly to secure them, one from Trowbridge, one from Sully and one from Ely. Also my sons Cardiff and district A league side have had 7 players over at Newport County all week and have also been approached by Swansea coaches to all go and train with Merthyr town with a view to playing for their academy in the welsh league, all these players live in Cardiff, some support the City, and the others don't really care

Which proves my point. These players have been looked at by Cardiff and are not good enough to break into our academy, yet Swansea and Newport would take them all. Quality over quantity!,

Have Swansea signed anyone who is better than what we have ?

There might be the odd one, but not as many as we have stolen from under their noses!

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the point is parents kids etc dont care what club it is so long as theres a chance however small to make as a pro thats the truth

Have Swansea signed anyone who is better than what we have ?

There might be the odd one, but not as many as we have stolen from under their noses!

Cheers thought so my mate is up on his youth football and told me the ones that have gone to Swansea weren't good enough for us .

My son is with our academy and thankfully doing really well at the moment. At all of the younger age groups we beat Swansea convincingly. I was once asked "If your boy got released, would you let him go to Swansea" I said " Of course as long as his new Dad was willing to take him!!!!"

My son is with our academy and thankfully doing really well at the moment. At all of the younger age groups we beat Swansea convincingly. I was once asked "If your boy got released, would you let him go to Swansea" I said " Of course as long as his new Dad was willing to take him!!!!"

not correct like i said earlier cardiff played swansea twice last season and it was 1 win apiece at there age level and the older u go swansea were better than cardiff mores the pity and i was there asmy grandson plays for swansea academy and is doing really well there ie playing all over the country and even poland granted some age groups cardiff are a lot stronger