" Why Swansea City and Cardiff City will battle it out "

Recently even the ones that come thru the academy get fucked around. Step forward declan john

The cardiff academy at adc level isnt very good no tuition going on the kids turn up in Liverpool etc kits .the kids seem to be used for the 6 weekly fees. My son was in the adc for four years at Treforest never got a chance to play his preferred position there was no structure I coach kids football not that im supper coach but I expected a higher level of coaching but never got it.

By boy got injured playing for city I phoned they said bring im back when better only to be told under the family stand by academy head coach you've been out 4 weeks if you aint coming back let us no we'll get another lad in my boy played injured.
It all came to a head at a trial at the house of sport where 40 or more kids played on one pitch to decide there future 11 players to be kept.
My boy played we were told by city we'll ring or email the parents to let you know the results. That was two years ago the only ones to here was the 11. My lads confidence was torn to bits didn't even say look you've done well unfortunately this time you didn't get through go back to your club we'll keep an I out for you in the future keep working hard well done.

They treated him and others like shit.

One lad who had problems with his growth and was under medication was told he was to small for ccfc. That lad now has fully signed with Swansea was announced at there stadium as a new addition and he loves it and by the way he is a real talent .

Swansea have a structure a direction and a philosophy that goes from first team to the under 8s.lots of people involved at academy or adc level with there kids can recognize this and have moved to Swansea. Four ex ccfc lads and a few current lads have jumped ship.

I hear good reports of there set up the kids are enjoying it and feel part of it unfortunately that cant be said about ccfc for many kids and parents.
Im a proud cardiff fan but Swansea have marched on are areas and taken lots of boys off cardiff which long term is damaging for us.
The fact is from top to bottom are club isnt being run properly where Swansea is as much as it pains me to say all this.

This is an interesting article but I do wonder whether Vincent Tan is actually aiming much higher than this and Ive wondered this for a long time.

CCFC is an opportunity for VT to bring his political friends across from Malaysia, entertain them, and show them what he has built. CCFC is, or in my opinion will be, his show piece.

We have sister clubs in the former Yugoslavia, Belgium and the US. They are not necessarily the best leagues in the World but they are strong. The Premiership is the "Showcase" for Vincent Tan and that certainly is where the money is.

So yes I guess a few players will come from the Valleys however I think VT is actually spreading his net wider. I personally believe CCFC will be the beneficiary of a certain amount of talent from Belgium, the Balkans and to some smaller extent the US. The Belgium tie up really excites me.

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Yes apparently they charge for the privaledge of being seen by them!

Yes, it's a big business....football is very expensive nowadays for the parents....i'm lucky to only have daughters lol

When I was a kid everyone had a trial with Bristol Rovers.
Where are they now ?

I had a trial in Newport (crown court) does that count

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Sounding abit like sour grapes to me I'm afraid. As a youngster I was involved in your set up in neath development, I was in the centre of excellence team with Adam matthews and played against Ramsey every Sunday night. but didn't make it. Back then swansea were tiny and cardiff were everywhere , even in swansea and I remember beating swansea 8 -1. Now it seems the opposite. Swansea are consistently beating you at most levels and also got centres all over the place. Very good to be a swansea fan at the moment

Don`t try speaking any common sense to him , His pure blind hatred of Swansea is making his ass change places with his mouth and it is absolutely hilarious to see.
Fact is it is crippling him inside to see how successful we are and how mediocre his comedy club is .
Keep hating , We love it . And i love reading the completely stupid replies on here , Guided by hatred and not any single piece of common sense .

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Sounding abit like sour grapes to me I'm afraid. As a youngster I was involved in your set up in neath development, I was in the centre of excellence team with Adam matthews and played against Ramsey every Sunday night. but didn't make it. Back then swansea were tiny and cardiff were everywhere , even in swansea and I remember beating swansea 8 -1. Now it seems the opposite. Swansea are consistently beating you at most levels and also got centres all over the place. Very good to be a swansea fan at the moment

Don`t try speaking any common sense to him , His pure blind hatred of Swansea is making his ass change places with his mouth and it is absolutely hilarious to see.
Fact is it is crippling him inside to see how successful we are and how mediocre his comedy club is .
Keep hating , We love it . And i love reading the completely stupid replies on here , Guided by hatred and not any single piece of common sense .

You really have got a chip on your shoulder haven't you.

This is an interesting article but I do wonder whether Vincent Tan is actually aiming much higher than this and Ive wondered this for a long time.

CCFC is an opportunity for VT to bring his political friends across from Malaysia, entertain them, and show them what he has built. CCFC is, or in my opinion will be, his show piece.

We have sister clubs in the former Yugoslavia, Belgium and the US. They are not necessarily the best leagues in the World but they are strong. The Premiership is the "Showcase" for Vincent Tan and that certainly is where the money is.

So yes I guess a few players will come from the Valleys however I think VT is actually spreading his net wider. I personally believe CCFC will be the beneficiary of a certain amount of talent from Belgium, the Balkans and to some smaller extent the US. The Belgium tie up really excites me.

Are you for really, that is the funniest thing I've read in ages your f*cking barking crying here.

Well Gaffer (Adam) seeing as you are using a photo as your Avatar which I think I might have taken I guess I am real. But if that doesn't convince you have a look in any match day program from the last 5 years of so and you will see my name listed as a photographer in the club staff bit - (I post using my real name so it shouldn't be a problem to identify me).

Thing is Adam, and the point I think you missed, is that talent is not or should not just be restricted to the local area. There is a potential Gareth Bale or Aaron Ramsey in most countries. Anyone who had a scout in Madeira, a few years back, may have seen a younger Ronaldo - for example

There are quite a few on here who know the full extent of my photography. Apart from photographing for the club I also photograph 3-4 Premiership/Championship matches per week for the National Newspapers. I get to see a lot of good young players and yes I do feed some of these players back to the club. Only this week I exchanged an email with Mehmet regarding a good young player in the North West. Not going to mention him for obvious reasons but the club are now looking at him.

So in answer to you. Yes I am real and yes I want us to be amongst one of the elite sides in the Premiership - and if that means we have a really good European Scouting Network as opposed to a good local network then I think that is a good alternative

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Sounding abit like sour grapes to me I'm afraid. As a youngster I was involved in your set up in neath development, I was in the centre of excellence team with Adam matthews and played against Ramsey every Sunday night. but didn't make it. Back then swansea were tiny and cardiff were everywhere , even in swansea and I remember beating swansea 8 -1. Now it seems the opposite. Swansea are consistently beating you at most levels and also got centres all over the place. Very good to be a swansea fan at the moment

Don`t try speaking any common sense to him , His pure blind hatred of Swansea is making his ass change places with his muouth and it is absolutely hilarious to see.
Fact is it is crippling him inside to see how successful we are and how mediocre his comedy club is .
Keep hating , We love it . And i love reading the completely stupid replies on here , Guided by hatred and not any single piece of common sense .

could it be that there is so little talent in swansea area that the club as to try find it in areas that does have the talent?

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Sounding abit like sour grapes to me I'm afraid. As a youngster I was involved in your set up in neath development, I was in the centre of excellence team with Adam matthews and played against Ramsey every Sunday night. but didn't make it. Back then swansea were tiny and cardiff were everywhere , even in swansea and I remember beating swansea 8 -1. Now it seems the opposite. Swansea are consistently beating you at most levels and also got centres all over the place. Very good to be a swansea fan at the moment

Don`t try speaking any common sense to him , His pure blind hatred of Swansea is making his ass change places with his muouth and it is absolutely hilarious to see.
Fact is it is crippling him inside to see how successful we are and how mediocre his comedy club is .
Keep hating , We love it . And i love reading the completely stupid replies on here , Guided by hatred and not any single piece of common sense .

could it be that there is so little talent in swansea area that the club as to try find it in areas that does have the talent?

Considering the trophies won by Swansea's Academy teams this season I'd say theres plenty of local talent in the area , not sure theres any from Pembroke there though

My nephew is from Ely and he's the captain of the Swansea under12s at the age of ten .he also just won the foundation player of the year after scoring 118 goals this season .and Cardiff had the chance but didn't take it

My nephew is from Ely and he's the captain of the Swansea under12s at the age of ten .he also just won the foundation player of the year after scoring 118 goals this season .and Cardiff had the chance but didn't take it

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Sounding abit like sour grapes to me I'm afraid. As a youngster I was involved in your set up in neath development, I was in the centre of excellence team with Adam matthews and played against Ramsey every Sunday night. but didn't make it. Back then swansea were tiny and cardiff were everywhere , even in swansea and I remember beating swansea 8 -1. Now it seems the opposite. Swansea are consistently beating you at most levels and also got centres all over the place. Very good to be a swansea fan at the moment

Don`t try speaking any common sense to him , His pure blind hatred of Swansea is making his ass change places with his muouth and it is absolutely hilarious to see.
Fact is it is crippling him inside to see how successful we are and how mediocre his comedy club is .
Keep hating , We love it . And i love reading the completely stupid replies on here , Guided by hatred and not any single piece of common sense .

could it be that there is so little talent in swansea area that the club as to try find it in areas that does have the talent?

Considering the trophies won by Swansea's Academy teams this season I'd say theres plenty of local talent in the area , not sure theres any from Pembroke there though

ahhhh but are they are from cardiff area the players they used which i suggested? no idea about this area as dont take any interest in local parks or what swansea do , i only follow whats posted on here!

they are effectively trawling hundreds of kids hoping to maybe find couple who are going to be good! what about the other couple hundred who get tossed aside? they are desperate as obviously not a lot of talented kids in their catchment area! kids that are exceptional will get picked up by bigger clubs still.

what i dont get is why have centre in roath and heath when parks only 1mile apart?

It's a money scam they have no overheads as they are just in a park and they call it a development centre

Sounding abit like sour grapes to me I'm afraid. As a youngster I was involved in your set up in neath development, I was in the centre of excellence team with Adam matthews and played against Ramsey every Sunday night. but didn't make it. Back then swansea were tiny and cardiff were everywhere , even in swansea and I remember beating swansea 8 -1. Now it seems the opposite. Swansea are consistently beating you at most levels and also got centres all over the place. Very good to be a swansea fan at the moment

Don`t try speaking any common sense to him , His pure blind hatred of Swansea is making his ass change places with his muouth and it is absolutely hilarious to see.
Fact is it is crippling him inside to see how successful we are and how mediocre his comedy club is .
Keep hating , We love it . And i love reading the completely stupid replies on here , Guided by hatred and not any single piece of common sense .

could it be that there is so little talent in swansea area that the club as to try find it in areas that does have the talent?

Considering the trophies won by Swansea's Academy teams this season I'd say theres plenty of local talent in the area , not sure theres any from Pembroke there though

ahhhh but are they are from cardiff area the players they used which i suggested? no idea about this area as dont take any interest in local parks or what swansea do , i only follow whats posted on here!

No there they're not, so bang goes that theory .

Cardiff need to sort themselves out and win the hearts and minds of the local population.

Treat the fans well
Look after the local adult football leagues - they are full of players who will never be professional but can be natural supporters and enthusiasts for our club
Look after the schools and the youth leagues - player visits, invite teams to take part in penalty shoot out competitions before games / half time at our championship games
Treat people with respect - if the youngsters (and their parents) who don't make it say that city treated them fairly and were very supportive and helpful the news spreads
Play youngsters in our first team - surely it is possible to always have at least one development player on the bench, lets give them 15 minutes on the pitch and see if they are good enough (especially towards the end of season when we are not in promotion / relegation battles)

A lot can be done without spending huge sums of money - visits by our first team squad, coaching sessions by our professional coaches, tours of our stadium and training centre, local cup finals at the CCS.

If we were good at all of the above then our local talent would be much more likely to choose us. The sad thing is that judging by the tales on this board many opportunities are lost by a basic lack of empathy, courtesy and care.