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Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:08 am

We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:55 pm

Sorting out immigration but driving the economy in a worse state than it already is.

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:01 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Russia has over 2x the population of the UK, over 40 million more available manpower, 45 million bigger labour force and 15,000 more tanks. I don't think putting a bit of money into the military would save us if they attacked, just ask the Germans.

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:58 pm

CCFCJosh75 wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Russia has over 2x the population of the UK, over 40 million more available manpower, 45 million bigger labour force and 15,000 more tanks. I don't think putting a bit of money into the military would save us if they attacked, just ask the Germans.

Its not quantity that counts, but quality. Don't forget, most of Russias gear hasn't been updated since the cold war. And I ain't talking about storming Russia like the Germans tried lol I'm talking about having enough of a deterrent to defend ourselves from any aggression, which at the moment we don't have. Would be nice if we actually had some planes to put on them aircraft carriers we just built. Let's be honest, I doubt very much we could rely on France or any of our other "NATO buddies" to back us up if the shit hit the fan. Even the yanks would probably leave us out to dry. I'd just like to see our armed forcs s " or what's left of them" kitted out accordingly, So we can actually back up all this hot air Cameron likes to spout. He likes to involve us in every conflict that rears its ugly head, yet at the Same time making massive cuts to our armed forces

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:11 pm

If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:12 pm

If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:20 pm

rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310

What a non issue. This is typical of LibLabCon supporters.

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:28 pm

blueminati wrote:
rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310

What a non issue. This is typical of LibLabCon supporters.


So you think that a party who sends out an election leaflet like that, would be educated enough to run this country. You have to be worried no matter which party you support

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:29 pm

blueminati wrote:
rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310

What a non issue. This is typical of LibLabCon supporters.


So you think that a party who sends out an election leaflet like that, would be educated enough to run this country. You have to be worried no matter which party you support

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 4:58 pm

rontom wrote:
blueminati wrote:
rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310

What a non issue. This is typical of LibLabCon supporters.


So you think that a party who sends out an election leaflet like that, would be educated enough to run this country. You have to be worried no matter which party you support

I think that people make mistakes and the person responsible for creating the leaflet was most likely not a UKIP member. They were probably paid to design the leaflet and made the typography error. That is the reality of the situation.

I also think that idiots who do not understand economics such as Labour are far more of a threat to the wellbeing of the UK than other options.

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:33 pm

blueminati wrote:They were probably paid to design the leaflet and made the typography error.


Do you mean Typographic error?

I suspect that you paid somebody to design your post ;)

Re: UKIP

Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:14 pm

The left famous for shouting Racist if they are losing the argument or can't answer a fair question. To constantly say the far right and fascism,often resort to violent protests and try to make laws that make it illegal to disagree with them.
Labour for example for saying they will make it illegal to critisise Islam so any of UKIPS main policy's may become illegal under there dictatorship and suppressive ideals. The left is only fair if you agree with them and make criminals out of the rest of us.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:42 am

Nuclearblue wrote:The left famous for shouting Racist if they are losing the argument or can't answer a fair question. To constantly say the far right and fascism,often resort to violent protests and try to make laws that make it illegal to disagree with them.
Labour for example for saying they will make it illegal to critisise Islam so any of UKIPS main policy's may become illegal under there dictatorship and suppressive ideals. The left is only fair if you agree with them and make criminals out of the rest of us.


I take it you're a Sun or Daily Mail reader? Here's something to put a smile on your face
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Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:00 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Here f*cking here! Britain NEEDS to be a major power in the world again. We have the scientists and engineers.

Recreate the spitfires and Lancaster bombers, build more state of the art warships and subs. Upgrade our intelligence networks.

Heck do what the yanks do and militarise our space agency to share technologies. We need to the military capabilities to tell countries such as Russia to f**k off.

Bring back the empire.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:08 pm

rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310



You do realise the man is registered blind? Although I expect you do and chose to ignore it.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:17 pm

BlueGog wrote:Although the UKIP vote seems to be crumbling and it looks like they will have no elected members, here's a little reminder if you still plan to vote that way.



Strange how the poorest areas of the country are all those that are run by socialists (Labour party ) and have been for decades.
Those poor Victorain people worked hard to improve their lives (and those of their families). They had aspirations and wanted to better their lives, unlike the oppressive system of the socialists who want to keep everybody down and living in poverty, while telling them they care about their plight. Just look at the Labour party and its Nazi leader, old 2 kitchens Milliband himself.
The man who stabbed his own brother in the back to get on.
Give me UKIP with its support for freedom and choice over our own future.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:26 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Labour for example for saying they will make it illegal to critisise Islam


Evidence please.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:33 pm

abergblue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:Although the UKIP vote seems to be crumbling and it looks like they will have no elected members, here's a little reminder if you still plan to vote that way.



Strange how the poorest areas of the country are all those that are run by socialists (Labour party ) and have been for decades.
Those poor Victorain people worked hard to improve their lives (and those of their families). They had aspirations and wanted to better their lives, unlike the oppressive system of the socialists who want to keep everybody down and living in poverty, while telling them they care about their plight. Just look at the Labour party and its Nazi leader, old 2 kitchens Milliband himself.
The man who stabbed his own brother in the back to get on.
Give me UKIP with its support for freedom and choice over our own future.


This thread keeps on delivering.

First of all, can you explain how Ed Milliband stabbed his own brother in the back?

We will take it from there after that.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:35 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Here f*cking here! Britain NEEDS to be a major power in the world again. We have the scientists and engineers.

Recreate the spitfires and Lancaster bombers, build more state of the art warships and subs. Upgrade our intelligence networks.

Heck do what the yanks do and militarise our space agency to share technologies. We need to the military capabilities to tell countries such as Russia to f**k off.

Bring back the empire.


We have the 5th highest military spend in the world, it seems high enough to me.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:43 pm

rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310


wow, this really is scraping the barrel.

the BBC don't want UKIP to win, and its obvious why. the BBC are left wing and UKIP want to slash the licence fee.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:48 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Here f*cking here! Britain NEEDS to be a major power in the world again. We have the scientists and engineers.

Recreate the spitfires and Lancaster bombers, build more state of the art warships and subs. Upgrade our intelligence networks.

Heck do what the yanks do and militarise our space agency to share technologies. We need to the military capabilities to tell countries such as Russia to f**k off.

Bring back the empire.


We have the 5th highest military spend in the world, it seems high enough to me.


And yet our armed forces has been dramatically weakened and lost alot of capabilities

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:54 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Here f*cking here! Britain NEEDS to be a major power in the world again. We have the scientists and engineers.

Recreate the spitfires and Lancaster bombers, build more state of the art warships and subs. Upgrade our intelligence networks.

Heck do what the yanks do and militarise our space agency to share technologies. We need to the military capabilities to tell countries such as Russia to f**k off.

Bring back the empire.


We have the 5th highest military spend in the world, it seems high enough to me.


i'm sure people here were saying the same before the outset of WW2. the bottom line is with russia and the loose cannon putin there is a strong argument to maintaining military strength as opposed to cutting it by a billion or so a year.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:26 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
evanmorgan wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:We need a party in that is gonna commit to beefing up our military, because before long Russia are going to take a swing at us. They are already testing the water with their jollies into British air space, and now signing agreements with Argentina to stoke up the flames over the falklands. Our armed forces are woefully inadequate to do anything about it as they are. Britain has become a weak target. we still try to act big and brash as a country yet we have fallen way behind with our defence. Putin was right when he said we are now just a small island that no one cares about.....its time to change that.


Here f*cking here! Britain NEEDS to be a major power in the world again. We have the scientists and engineers.

Recreate the spitfires and Lancaster bombers, build more state of the art warships and subs. Upgrade our intelligence networks.

Heck do what the yanks do and militarise our space agency to share technologies. We need to the military capabilities to tell countries such as Russia to f**k off.

Bring back the empire.


We have the 5th highest military spend in the world, it seems high enough to me.


i'm sure people here were saying the same before the outset of WW2. the bottom line is with russia and the loose cannon putin there is a strong argument to maintaining military strength as opposed to cutting it by a billion or so a year.


Exactly eve the American chief of staff (head of US armed forces) is worried about British cuts and hinted at creating a British battalion in the American army. Personally I'd rather our lads and lasses fight for us.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:01 pm

evanmorgan wrote:
abergblue wrote:
BlueGog wrote:Although the UKIP vote seems to be crumbling and it looks like they will have no elected members, here's a little reminder if you still plan to vote that way.



Strange how the poorest areas of the country are all those that are run by socialists (Labour party ) and have been for decades.
Those poor Victorain people worked hard to improve their lives (and those of their families). They had aspirations and wanted to better their lives, unlike the oppressive system of the socialists who want to keep everybody down and living in poverty, while telling them they care about their plight. Just look at the Labour party and its Nazi leader, old 2 kitchens Milliband himself.
The man who stabbed his own brother in the back to get on.
Give me UKIP with its support for freedom and choice over our own future.


This thread keeps on delivering.

First of all, can you explain how Ed Milliband stabbed his own brother in the back?

We will take it from there after that.



Well I doubt the Daily Mirror mentioned it, and the BBC try to cover it up. But the rest of the world knows what he did to his brother. If your own family cannot trust you why should anyone else?
Milliband a man of no principles, or qualms about who he hurts, to get the power he so badly wants.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 6:14 pm

Russia just unveiled a brand new tank. Nah we don't need to spend more on defence. I'm sure our jets which aren't actually maintained properly (due to lack of resources not the personel). Its OK though we still have a large amount of tanks...oh wait we've reduced our number of tanks by 40%.

Yes we don't need to spend more on defence.

Oh and by the way we don't have an anti submarine patrol plane.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:25 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Russia just unveiled a brand new tank. Nah we don't need to spend more on defence. I'm sure our jets which aren't actually maintained properly (due to lack of resources not the personel). Its OK though we still have a large amount of tanks...oh wait we've reduced our number of tanks by 40%.

Yes we don't need to spend more on defence.

Oh and by the way we don't have an anti submarine patrol plane.


Not sure why you think we need all this military and weapons. You think Russia is a threat because the Sun, Star or Daily Mail tells you. Look at Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Latvia etc etc much closer to Russia no nuclear weapons and as far as I know there's been no invasion. The type of governments we've had in this country red or blue need enemies, they need you to believe that there is a threat from an 'enemy.' That's how we keep us in our place, lies damned lies.
Why do we need Trident? Total waste of money the countries above seem to be doing all right with a 'deterrent' and they have a lot more money to spend on hospitals and school.
Don'r believe the lies, hope over fear vote Plaid

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:16 pm

No invasion? So Crimea didnt happen, and Ukraine is a figment in the media's imgination. Now Boris is needling the Fins.

Dope over here, voting Plaid (for a fairer Waaales see).

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:25 pm

abergblue wrote:
rontom wrote:If UKIP gets in then we would all have to go back to school to learn the new way of spelling.
Cannot for the life of me understand why anybody could vote Ukip

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales ... te-9114310



You do realise the man is registered blind? Although I expect you do and chose to ignore it.


Yes I knew he was registered blind, but as he himself states that is not an excuse for the errors in the leaflet, that is down to the person or persons who read the proof and authorised the printing of the leaflet.

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:27 pm

rumpo kid wrote:No invasion? So Crimea didnt happen, and Ukraine is a figment in the media's imgination. Now Boris is needling the Fins.

Dope over here, voting Plaid (for a fairer Waaales see).


The Ukraine is inhabited by Russians who wanted to be part of their homeland. Hardly a comparison although the press built it up like that.

So you don't think it's right for Wales to be treated unfairly?

Re: UKIP

Thu Apr 30, 2015 8:42 pm

BlueGog wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Russia just unveiled a brand new tank. Nah we don't need to spend more on defence. I'm sure our jets which aren't actually maintained properly (due to lack of resources not the personel). Its OK though we still have a large amount of tanks...oh wait we've reduced our number of tanks by 40%.

Yes we don't need to spend more on defence.

Oh and by the way we don't have an anti submarine patrol plane.


Not sure why you think we need all this military and weapons. You think Russia is a threat because the Sun, Star or Daily Mail tells you. Look at Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Latvia etc etc much closer to Russia no nuclear weapons and as far as I know there's been no invasion. The type of governments we've had in this country red or blue need enemies, they need you to believe that there is a threat from an 'enemy.' That's how we keep us in our place, lies damned lies.
Why do we need Trident? Total waste of money the countries above seem to be doing all right with a 'deterrent' and they have a lot more money to spend on hospitals and school.
Don'r believe the lies, hope over fear vote Plaid


Never judge a book by it's cover as they say, I wouldn't read those disgusting rags if my life depended on it! Britain is weak and the world is getting more and more unstable.