" Blaming Tan is disparity and looking for excuses "

This is the bit that I don't quite get as well. Two-faced supporter base.

I do think that people used the rebrand to jump ship, whilst never expecting tan to reverse it. Personally, I was willing to walk away, but couldn't once we were back in blue.

However, that is only a sub plot to this particular farce. tan was the worst thing that has ever happened to this club. No one can ever convince me otherwise.

Terrible Tan saving us from liquidation.

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

i blame them all,so not renewed

Tan appointed Slade, a yes man, who isn't up to the job however pleasant a person he is. I also believe he had a lot of say in the appointment of Ole. His 'passion' for the club was shown by the fact he only turned up to one match all season. He only reversed the appalling rebrand because of our pressure and commercial disaster. The sooner we get serious fan ownership, the better.

Tan appointed Slade, a yes man, who isn't up to the job however pleasant a person he is. I also believe he had a lot of say in the appointment of Ole. His 'passion' for the club was shown by the fact he only turned up to one match all season. He only reversed the appalling rebrand because of our pressure and commercial disaster. The sooner we get serious fan ownership, the better.

Where do you think we would be with fan ownership?

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

I know your not Neil but Colourblind follows me around every topic and 99% of the time,post the opp to what ever I ever post


So I am answering him, like I do every post I see

Tan employs the ceo's who signs the cheques off that over spent and then blamed the managers, tan employed slade, he rebranded us, he has continued to medel with the footballing decisions in the club. He has single handedly turned our club into a rolling circus and laughing stock.

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

I know your not Neil but Colourblind follows me around every topic and 99% of the time,post the opp to what ever I ever post


So I am answering him, like I do every post I see

He is right here though mate Tan did save us from liquidation. The initial 3 million (not rebrand) saved us from a very uncomfortable time. We had no income to rely on. Riddler had screwed us.

This is the bit that I don't quite get as well. Two-faced supporter base.

I do think that people used the rebrand to jump ship, whilst never expecting tan to reverse it. Personally, I was willing to walk away, but couldn't once we were back in blue.

However, that is only a sub plot to this particular farce. tan was the worst thing that has ever happened to this club. No one can ever convince me otherwise.

Terrible Tan saving us from liquidation.

I would have rather have gone through and started lower down the leagues than that f*cking awful premier league season and everything that has followed and I don't expect you to understand that because you don't go. Anyone pro Tan is anti cardiff city in my eyes

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

I know your not Neil but Colourblind follows me around every topic and 99% of the time,post the opp to what ever I ever post


So I am answering him, like I do every post I see

He is right here though mate Tan did save us from liquidation. The initial 3 million (not rebrand) saved us from a very uncomfortable time. We had no income to rely on. Riddler had screwed us.

Yes he did put the money Neil, but Ive been told the worst that could of happened to us back then was relegation.

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

I know your not Neil but Colourblind follows me around every topic and 99% of the time,post the opp to what ever I ever post


So I am answering him, like I do every post I see

Annis you just can't get through to these people, they just don't see it

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

I know your not Neil but Colourblind follows me around every topic and 99% of the time,post the opp to what ever I ever post


So I am answering him, like I do every post I see

Annis you just can't get through to these people, they just don't see it

This is the bit that I don't quite get as well. Two-faced supporter base.

I do think that people used the rebrand to jump ship, whilst never expecting tan to reverse it. Personally, I was willing to walk away, but couldn't once we were back in blue.

However, that is only a sub plot to this particular farce. tan was the worst thing that has ever happened to this club. No one can ever convince me otherwise.

Terrible Tan saving us from liquidation.

I would have rather have gone through and started lower down the leagues than that f*cking awful premier league season and everything that has followed and I don't expect you to understand that because you don't go. Anyone pro Tan is anti cardiff city in my eyes

Don't go now but did go. Got the bug in 1992 and went home and away regularly until I joined the RAF in 2001 then went less regularly until the season of the FA cup final. We may not have been allowed to start lower down.

This is the bit that I don't quite get as well. Two-faced supporter base.

I do think that people used the rebrand to jump ship, whilst never expecting tan to reverse it. Personally, I was willing to walk away, but couldn't once we were back in blue.

However, that is only a sub plot to this particular farce. tan was the worst thing that has ever happened to this club. No one can ever convince me otherwise.

Terrible Tan saving us from liquidation.

I would have rather have gone through and started lower down the leagues than that f*cking awful premier league season and everything that has followed and I don't expect you to understand that because you don't go. Anyone pro Tan is anti cardiff city in my eyes

Don't go now but did go. Got the bug in 1992 and went home and away regularly until I joined the RAF in 2001 then went less regularly until the season of the FA cup final. We may not have been allowed to start lower down.

Still don't understand why you don't go, I go less regularly as I'm in the raf too but still show my support - when I can home and away. but it's obvious our take on tan and cardiff city in general is quite different!

We could debate all night but the way I see it if i was eating from your hypothetical mcdonalds and it went down the shitter after a new owner come in; started to dish out plane boring burgers, employing idiots and came out talking to me like I was an expendable customer guess who I'd blame? Not the spotty fucker on the till...

This is the bit that I don't quite get as well. Two-faced supporter base.

I do think that people used the rebrand to jump ship, whilst never expecting tan to reverse it. Personally, I was willing to walk away, but couldn't once we were back in blue.

However, that is only a sub plot to this particular farce. tan was the worst thing that has ever happened to this club. No one can ever convince me otherwise.

Terrible Tan saving us from liquidation.

I would have rather have gone through and started lower down the leagues than that f*cking awful premier league season and everything that has followed and I don't expect you to understand that because you don't go. Anyone pro Tan is anti cardiff city in my eyes

Don't go now but did go. Got the bug in 1992 and went home and away regularly until I joined the RAF in 2001 then went less regularly until the season of the FA cup final. We may not have been allowed to start lower down.

Still don't understand why you don't go, I go less regularly as I'm in the raf too but still show my support - when I can home and away. but it's obvious our take on tan and cardiff city in general is quite different!

We could debate all night but the way I see it if i was eating from your hypothetical mcdonalds and it went down the shitter after a new owner come in; started to dish out plane boring burgers, employing idiots and came out talking to me like I was an expendable customer guess who I'd blame? Not the spotty fucker on the till...

I work shift in atc so don't have many Saturday's off. Plus the FA cup final tickets Pollava put me off somewhat.

It's for the benefit of the club I haven't seen them win in 13 games.

I think disapointment amongst older fans has led to a lot of them packing in. for years their goal in life was to see us in the premier league and when it happened we were shit and the odd game apart were never competitive despite spending millions.
i also believe the appalling fall in in the standard of football in 12 months plus the unbelievable appointment of the current manager has compounded the issue

I agree, every season it was like what if... Then when we finally reached the premier league it was a huge letdown we sank quicker than the titanic and the players jumped off the ship, then there was the excitement of having solskjaer onboard which again was a huge letdown. - Now we have Slade and we are not getting anywhere...

This is the bit that I don't quite get as well. Two-faced supporter base.

I do think that people used the rebrand to jump ship, whilst never expecting tan to reverse it. Personally, I was willing to walk away, but couldn't once we were back in blue.

However, that is only a sub plot to this particular farce. tan was the worst thing that has ever happened to this club. No one can ever convince me otherwise.

Terrible Tan saving us from liquidation.

I would have rather have gone through and started lower down the leagues than that f*cking awful premier league season and everything that has followed and I don't expect you to understand that because you don't go. Anyone pro Tan is anti cardiff city in my eyes

Don't go now but did go. Got the bug in 1992 and went home and away regularly until I joined the RAF in 2001 then went less regularly until the season of the FA cup final. We may not have been allowed to start lower down.

Still don't understand why you don't go, I go less regularly as I'm in the raf too but still show my support - when I can home and away. but it's obvious our take on tan and cardiff city in general is quite different!

We could debate all night but the way I see it if i was eating from your hypothetical mcdonalds and it went down the shitter after a new owner come in; started to dish out plane boring burgers, employing idiots and came out talking to me like I was an expendable customer guess who I'd blame? Not the spotty fucker on the till...

We shall never forgive.
We shall never forget.
The Bluebirds remember.

Saying you'll forgive and forget is one thing. Its easy. Doing it is harder. Sorry but I can't. Tan needs to leave. He is a parasite.

We shall never forgive.
We shall never forget.
The Bluebirds remember.

Saying you'll forgive and forget is one thing. Its easy. Doing it is harder. Sorry but I can't. Tan needs to leave. He is a parasite.

The money he is paying out per week to keep us afloat means he probably says the same about us.

This is my opinion and I am happy to be proved wrong. I will quantify this by saying that I haven't been in a fair few years. The championship winning season was the last time I went. I didn't watch us live the whole time we were in the premiership. I work shift so get very few Saturday's off. It just happened. I haven't enjoyed it as much since moving to the CCS and I was put off by the whole FA Cup tickets shebang. That was pre Tan.

It is no doubt that Tan upset many with the rebrand. However in the grand scheme it was a small number as proven by the protests and they became greater when the product on the pitch deteriorated. We were all happy in red under Tan when beating Man City and you could not say we were lacking passion that day.

I personally think that it has a lot to do with the highs we achieved in getting to the premiership. Think about it. If you eat McDonald's your whole life, you are used to that. There might be the odd special burger they bring out that you enjoy but it's still McDonald's. If you then get a taste of premium steak for a bit if and when you go back to McDonald's you don't like it anymore. Now people don't want McDonald's they are using any excuse to not eat it. Tan is an easy target as is Slade.

The football is apparently dull. But, we have been there before with much worse players and standard of football. Of course they were the days when the crowds were only 2000 to 3000. The crowds picked up when we had a bit of success. If you like, when McDonald's had their special burgers on. That's why I think 4000 season tickets is probably about right. Those that have abandoned the club have every right to do so. However they should be truthful and say it's because they can't be arsed with the championship after the year in the premiership. It's not a shameful thing it's human nature. However to blame Tan for ripping the soul out of the club after the shit times we have faced is ridiculous. Especially as he's being hands off and criticised for this.

I await any replies actually explaining why rather than just he has.

nothing to do with championship,lets be honest after a few big names in prem the other 15 teams are no more than us.yep,i cheereed and felt good when we beat man city but that was a distraction from how many already felt.Last season and this i have felt nothing more than an inconvenience that cardiff city the company have to put up with...i feel like the slice of gurkin in the BIG MAC that no one really likes but put up with it...well ive had enough...

Blooobirds Forever !!!

We shall never forgive.
We shall never forget.
The Bluebirds remember.

Saying you'll forgive and forget is one thing. Its easy. Doing it is harder. Sorry but I can't. Tan needs to leave. He is a parasite.

The money he is paying out per week to keep us afloat means he probably says the same about us.

Sadly, Neil, 'blueminati' doesn't want to see the truth, as it doesn't suit his anti-club (and I mean club) agenda!

He is using Tan as a tool, like many others on here and cannot separate facts from fiction!

Statements like the one above show only the mischievous intransigence and naivety of one person...'blueminati'

His previous 'handle' was just as negative!

We shall never forgive.
We shall never forget.
The Bluebirds remember.

Saying you'll forgive and forget is one thing. Its easy. Doing it is harder. Sorry but I can't. Tan needs to leave. He is a parasite.

The money he is paying out per week to keep us afloat means he probably says the same about us.

Sadly, Neil, 'blueminati' doesn't want to see the truth, as it doesn't suit his anti-club (and I mean club) agenda!

He is using Tan as a tool, like many others on here and cannot separate facts from fiction!

Statements like the one above show only the mischievous intransigence and naivety of one person...'blueminati'

His previous 'handle' was just as negative!

Who was he before? He's toop I think.

We shall never forgive.
We shall never forget.
The Bluebirds remember.

Saying you'll forgive and forget is one thing. Its easy. Doing it is harder. Sorry but I can't. Tan needs to leave. He is a parasite.

The money he is paying out per week to keep us afloat means he probably says the same about us.

Sadly, Neil, 'blueminati' doesn't want to see the truth, as it doesn't suit his anti-club (and I mean club) agenda!
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He is using Tan as a tool, like many others on here and cannot separate facts from fiction!

Statements like the one above show only the mischievous intransigence and naivety of one person...'blueminati'

His previous 'handle' was just as negative!

You are right, Sven. He gives the clear impression that he wants our club to fail to suit whatever agenda he might have. Sadly, he is not alone on here but he certainly appears to be beyond help.

Yeah. Tan should have let us go to the wall and I bet he's wishing he had. No more message boards for you then fellas.

Maybe just maybe we would have been still a proud club. A fact stated by Allan Whitley, It was Never Dead or Red that was a lie spread by the Red brigade.

I'm not talking about red or dead mate ages before the red when we were in court with debts we couldn't pay facing being wound up. When you were waving Malaysian flags at Coventry wasn't it as you realised the severity of our finances.

I know your not Neil but Colourblind follows me around every topic and 99% of the time,post the opp to what ever I ever post


So I am answering him, like I do every post I see

Wrong, Annis. Try 75% of the time.

You reep what you sew.

While we played in Red we got the investment, now we are back to Blue we have no investment.. That will sound familiar to the fans who have followed the club over the years.

So what do we take out of this.. Most didn't sign up to Tans ideas so we are back to square one. Dwindling fans tells us one thing... They are not going to spend their hard earned money on mediocre.

You've lost the plot fellas. If you can't see Tan has killed this club then god help you. I and others believed a return to blue would heal the wounds but they won't. The only way I see progress is Tan doing one. I don't like the fella one iota but Roathie was right. Should have chased him out day one.

You've lost the plot fellas. If you can't see Tan has killed this club then god help you. I and others believed a return to blue would heal the wounds but they won't. The only way I see progress is Tan doing one. I don't like the fella one iota but Roathie was right. Should have chased him out day one.

When we were red it was blue will sort us. Now it's Tan out or Slade out and we will be sorted. Always be some reason for us to moan. Pre Tan it was our lack of signings or the constant court cases. We are never happy.

I don't think it's to do with tan or the rebrand it's about the feel good factor and enjoyment.

All those seasons under Sam and PR it was exciting and we were pushing for that dream.
we has the dream and it was crap, what is the dream now? What's the feel good factor? Does anyone enjoy? Is loyalty a good enough to spend hundreds in this day and age? I don't think so. We are on a downward spiral and it's obvious the fans would drop.