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Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:19 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:20 pm

Peltier pulled up with cramp a few minutes earlier

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:22 pm

Thanks. I wondered why he went off.

Re: Has anyone noticed City?

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:26 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Bluetwin wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Has anyone noticed City are undefeated in their last 4 League games :thumbright:
We are on a run

Sat 14/03/15 CHA Brentford 1 - 2 Cardiff City
Tue 17/03/15 CHA Cardiff City 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Sat 21/03/15 CHA Cardiff City 2 - 0 Birmingham City
Sat 04/04/15 CHA Reading 1 - 1 Cardiff City

,2 losses in 12 also


That Wez is a massive improvement :thumbright:

We were awful yesterday Annis. Totally clueless until last minute. Slade just stood there with arms folded pretending to be Dave Jones. Trollope was not allowed in technical area by looks of things.

Yesterday's tactics were pass across the back and then play a floated ball up to Doyle who can't hold the ball up. Slade is utterly clueless and merely a puppet for vinny


Gareth,I honestly don't believe we will even make the play offs under Slade next season,I've seen nothing but dire football under him.
But I can't deny his results have improved drastically.

Results have picked up but if they want to get crowds of more than 14,000 next season the performances need to improve dramatically.


Interesting.

Next Season it is my belief that if we were averaging enough points from awful clueless games, as you say, to be in the top six. We would have larger crowds than if we were playing attractive football and losing every week.


Sorry to be reflective this afternoon, but which of the Championship clubs is standing a chance of promotion this season playing hoof ball?

I assume you're forgetting that Slade didn't start the season with us, so we've no idea how we'd have ended up had he started the season with his own players, or own type of players in the squad and is there any other team in the league that has had to carry out the size of savage cost cutting exercise, he has had to do, whilst trying to keep a huge quantity of players happy?


Slade should be strongly critiqued in his first full season. Yes I do agree with that statement, but for me there is nothing to be excited about for next by the groundwork he is doing. Manga goes then the team becomes very ordinary

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:43 pm

ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?
if slade is back with money just like malky then yes

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:58 pm

noisycat wrote:I was there yesterday and it was terrible and talking to other fans on the bus they felt the same way. I know it's a results driven business but it is an entertainment business aswell and all that result did was paper over the cracks and endorses Slade's style of play. How in hell was Doyle suppose to compete against Reading's centre halves who Jones would have struggled against,and it made Doyle look totally out of the depth. A lot of fans are undecided as to whether Doyle is up to championship standard but Slade did him no favours yesterday and that game must have knocked his confidence. Why did Slade bring Malone on? was Peltier injured? because why did we replace one fullback for another when we were a goal down,it madeno sense to me.

Not sure that Slade was trying to change our style of play yesterday, but our passing was woeful at times, which isn't Slade's fault, as they should all be capable of making accurate passes at this level!

With regard to Slade bringing Malone on for Peltier when we were losing, I've no idea who you thought he could bring on to change things more offensively, as the only forwards we have left at the club who aren't out on loan are injured and the only one we had on the bench was Mason, who replaced Doyle!

Unless Peltier was injured, I suspect that the substitution was down to the fact that he has picked up a couple of injuries of late, along with Malone, who is only just returning from injury himself and wanted to give them both some game time!

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 12:59 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?

Re: Has anyone noticed City?

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:06 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Bluetwin wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Has anyone noticed City are undefeated in their last 4 League games :thumbright:
We are on a run

Sat 14/03/15 CHA Brentford 1 - 2 Cardiff City
Tue 17/03/15 CHA Cardiff City 1 - 1 Bournemouth
Sat 21/03/15 CHA Cardiff City 2 - 0 Birmingham City
Sat 04/04/15 CHA Reading 1 - 1 Cardiff City

,2 losses in 12 also


That Wez is a massive improvement :thumbright:

We were awful yesterday Annis. Totally clueless until last minute. Slade just stood there with arms folded pretending to be Dave Jones. Trollope was not allowed in technical area by looks of things.

Yesterday's tactics were pass across the back and then play a floated ball up to Doyle who can't hold the ball up. Slade is utterly clueless and merely a puppet for vinny


Gareth,I honestly don't believe we will even make the play offs under Slade next season,I've seen nothing but dire football under him.
But I can't deny his results have improved drastically.

Results have picked up but if they want to get crowds of more than 14,000 next season the performances need to improve dramatically.


Interesting.

Next Season it is my belief that if we were averaging enough points from awful clueless games, as you say, to be in the top six. We would have larger crowds than if we were playing attractive football and losing every week.


Sorry to be reflective this afternoon, but which of the Championship clubs is standing a chance of promotion this season playing hoof ball?

I assume you're forgetting that Slade didn't start the season with us, so we've no idea how we'd have ended up had he started the season with his own players, or own type of players in the squad and is there any other team in the league that has had to carry out the size of savage cost cutting exercise, he has had to do, whilst trying to keep a huge quantity of players happy?


Slade should be strongly critiqued in his first full season. Yes I do agree with that statement, but for me there is nothing to be excited about for next by the groundwork he is doing. Manga goes then the team becomes very ordinary

None of us knows that Manga is definitely going, but we've also no idea, as to which players we're likely to recruit for next season to replace him or anybody else either!

If Slade is able to recruit players with the quality of the likes of Kennedy and McAleny (I know he's only a loan) he recruited in January, I'd be delighted!

You never know, we may also be able to convince Everton that they don't need McAleny next season as well!

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:09 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?


he was coming off the back of a Carling Cup final don't you remember? his standing was good in the game, Tan gambled he could handle it (was proved right signing top Championship standard players). This one of many gambles the club takes

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:21 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?


he was coming off the back of a Carling Cup final don't you remember? his standing was good in the game, Tan gambled he could handle it (was proved right signing top Championship standard players). This one of many gambles the club takes

So who's to say that Slade can't do the same, given our turnaround in form, bearing in mind he's had to oversee a huge player and budget cull, whilst trying to remain competetive in the Championship?

IMO, Slade has had the harder task of the 2 managers, given that he came in at a time when our club was in turmoil, just been relegated and with far too many overpaid, unhappy and reportedly disruptive players at the club!

By comparison, Malky came to Cardiff at a time, when we'd been competing for promotion consistently for a number of years, without anything like the kind of turmoil Slade has had to endure in his first few months and was given a huge war chest for a Championship campaign!

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:30 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?


he was coming off the back of a Carling Cup final don't you remember? his standing was good in the game, Tan gambled he could handle it (was proved right signing top Championship standard players). This one of many gambles the club takes

So who's to say that Slade can't do the same, given our turnaround in form, bearing in mind he's had to oversee a huge player and budget cull, whilst trying to remain competetive in the Championship?

IMO, Slade has had the harder task of the 2 managers, given that he came in at a time when our club was in turmoil, just been relegated and with far too many overpaid, unhappy and reportedly disruptive players at the club!

By comparison, Malky came to Cardiff at a time, when we'd been competing for promotion consistently for a number of years, without anything like the kind of turmoil Slade has had to endure in his first few months and was given a huge war chest for a Championship campaign!


It can't be easy for Slade as it is true Malky had the opportunity to mould a squad as he wanted.

Also, 6-8 battle hardened Championship players already at the club helped his cause.

Let's see how Slade gets on, he is an upgrade on Ole Solksjaer that is a certainty in my eyes :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:36 pm

Two very different scenarios. Malky only inherited a handful of players so had the luxury of bringing his own players backed with a healthy budget.

Slade inherited a mess. Too many players only here for the money, imbalance in the squad and a remit to sort the overspending out. I'm not convinced he's the man but I am starting to think people are being far too prematurely harsh on him. We will have a much better idea of his capabilities once this summer window closes and his team will have taken shape.

Sadly there won't be many there to see the chapter unwind as they have abandoned ship because they don't think we will be competing at the top of the league. They may be right, but since when was watching cardiff all about success?

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:37 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?


he was coming off the back of a Carling Cup final don't you remember? his standing was good in the game, Tan gambled he could handle it (was proved right signing top Championship standard players). This one of many gambles the club takes

So who's to say that Slade can't do the same, given our turnaround in form, bearing in mind he's had to oversee a huge player and budget cull, whilst trying to remain competetive in the Championship?

IMO, Slade has had the harder task of the 2 managers, given that he came in at a time when our club was in turmoil, just been relegated and with far too many overpaid, unhappy and reportedly disruptive players at the club!

By comparison, Malky came to Cardiff at a time, when we'd been competing for promotion consistently for a number of years, without anything like the kind of turmoil Slade has had to endure in his first few months and was given a huge war chest for a Championship campaign!


It can't be easy for Slade as it is true Malky had the opportunity to mould a squad as he wanted.

Also, 6-8 battle hardened Championship players already at the club helped his cause.

Let's see how Slade gets on, he is an upgrade on Ole Solksjaer that is a certainty in my eyes :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Are you saying I won the debate? ;)

I certainly agree about Ole and I believe Slade has earned the right to be allowed to try and progress us into next season, even though I haven't enjoyed the football very much!

I believe that the Summer will see us recruit more players of the quality of Kennedy however and with Kadeem Harris to come back into the team shortly, I'm already looking forward to the next campaign! :bluescarf:

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 1:46 pm

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?


he was coming off the back of a Carling Cup final don't you remember? his standing was good in the game, Tan gambled he could handle it (was proved right signing top Championship standard players). This one of many gambles the club takes

So who's to say that Slade can't do the same, given our turnaround in form, bearing in mind he's had to oversee a huge player and budget cull, whilst trying to remain competetive in the Championship?

IMO, Slade has had the harder task of the 2 managers, given that he came in at a time when our club was in turmoil, just been relegated and with far too many overpaid, unhappy and reportedly disruptive players at the club!

By comparison, Malky came to Cardiff at a time, when we'd been competing for promotion consistently for a number of years, without anything like the kind of turmoil Slade has had to endure in his first few months and was given a huge war chest for a Championship campaign!


It can't be easy for Slade as it is true Malky had the opportunity to mould a squad as he wanted.

Also, 6-8 battle hardened Championship players already at the club helped his cause.

Let's see how Slade gets on, he is an upgrade on Ole Solksjaer that is a certainty in my eyes :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Are you saying I won the debate? ;)

I certainly agree about Ole and I believe Slade has earned the right to be allowed to try and progress us into next season, even though I haven't enjoyed the football very much!

I believe that the Summer will see us recruit more players of the quality of Kennedy however and with Kadeem Harris to come back into the team shortly, I'm already looking forward to the next campaign! :bluescarf:


yes I am :notworthy: :lol: it is true that he came in at a terrible time after Ole. I hold my wrath till next season! (if needed) :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 2:11 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
BarryWelsh wrote:We got promoted playing dire football and I don't remember too many complaints. It's all about sticking the ball in the net and winning games, simples


you fancy Slade will match MM in terms of achievements?

I'd fancy Slade to achieve what Malky achieved if he was given the same financial backing, or have we all forgotten the size of transfer fees and stupid wages?


The transfer budget Malky worked with in the promotion season I would not trust Slade with. Slade can't go from a next to nothing budget he's worked under all his career to a multi-million pound one, the same as MM shouldn't of been given the 30-40mil budget for the PL.

Anything learned from all this is that inexperienced managers cost the club. Adkins was sacked at Southampton for doing nothing wrong apart from not being trusted with big budgets.

So what budget had Malky worked with prior to his huge Championship kitty when he came to us?


he was coming off the back of a Carling Cup final don't you remember? his standing was good in the game, Tan gambled he could handle it (was proved right signing top Championship standard players). This one of many gambles the club takes

So who's to say that Slade can't do the same, given our turnaround in form, bearing in mind he's had to oversee a huge player and budget cull, whilst trying to remain competetive in the Championship?

IMO, Slade has had the harder task of the 2 managers, given that he came in at a time when our club was in turmoil, just been relegated and with far too many overpaid, unhappy and reportedly disruptive players at the club!

By comparison, Malky came to Cardiff at a time, when we'd been competing for promotion consistently for a number of years, without anything like the kind of turmoil Slade has had to endure in his first few months and was given a huge war chest for a Championship campaign!


It can't be easy for Slade as it is true Malky had the opportunity to mould a squad as he wanted.

Also, 6-8 battle hardened Championship players already at the club helped his cause.

Let's see how Slade gets on, he is an upgrade on Ole Solksjaer that is a certainty in my eyes :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Are you saying I won the debate? ;)

I certainly agree about Ole and I believe Slade has earned the right to be allowed to try and progress us into next season, even though I haven't enjoyed the football very much!

I believe that the Summer will see us recruit more players of the quality of Kennedy however and with Kadeem Harris to come back into the team shortly, I'm already looking forward to the next campaign! :bluescarf:


yes I am :notworthy: :lol: it is true that he came in at a terrible time after Ole. I hold my wrath till next season! (if needed) :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

:D :ayatollah:

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 3:26 pm

I'd rather have brought O'Keefe or Adeyemi on instead of Malone and perhaps played 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 rather than bringing Malone and sticking to 4-4-2. I appreciate we got a point in the end but at the time Peltier went off,we hardly looked like having a shot on target let alone scoring a goal.

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:38 pm

noisycat wrote:I'd rather have brought O'Keefe or Adeyemi on instead of Malone and perhaps played 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 rather than bringing Malone and sticking to 4-4-2. I appreciate we got a point in the end but at the time Peltier went off,we hardly looked like having a shot on target let alone scoring a goal.

It's been reported that Peltier had to go off after cramping up, so unless O'Keefe or Adeyemi can play full back, I'd say that it was the correct decision! :)

Re: " Has anyone noticed City? "

Sun Apr 05, 2015 10:26 pm

only Norwich have lost fewer of their last 10 games