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Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:18 pm

Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.


Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours

Agree ,why does Britain have to sort out everyone else mess out ,when our own people are suffering

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:23 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.


Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours

Agree ,why does Britain have to sort out everyone else mess out ,when our own people are suffering

Often messes Britain created itself. Tell me more about conflict diamonds and rebel groups please and how the west has contributed to this. Go on, enlighten us all with your expert anecdotes on foreign policy.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:29 pm

Yeah like Britian wrecked Zimbabwe didn't they ? In fact Zimbabwe was Africa's richest country when it was handed back over and now look at it!! A basket case

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:32 pm

Hear hear Brownie. :thumbup:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:33 pm

Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.


Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours


Tf are you even talking about? If Heath Care Is a human right, then it doesn't matter where they are from everyone should get treatment. Not the inhumane just let them die regressive shit you seem to think is the way forward. Anything else is just clouding the issue.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:34 pm

blueminati wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.


Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours

Agree ,why does Britain have to sort out everyone else mess out ,when our own people are suffering

Often messes Britain created itself. Tell me more about conflict diamonds and rebel groups please and how the west has contributed to this. Go on, enlighten us all with your expert anecdotes on foreign policy.

What your not getting is that I could give a Shit about the rest of the worlds problems ,it's not an world election its an election for Britain and British people ,most people in Britain just want a better life ,we should sort out our own country first before taking in other countries problems

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:35 pm

Military Junta wrote:Yeah like Britian wrecked Zimbabwe didn't they ? In fact Zimbabwe was Africa's richest country when it was handed back over and now look at it!! A basket case
killed all the white farmers and now they are too thick to work the land themselves

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:44 pm

Health care a human right? Female genital mutilation, behead the non Muslim believers. Bleed animals to death, treat women like dogs a human right. ??? Let them get health care in their own shitholes we have a waiting list.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 9:49 pm

RFMH wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.


Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours


Tf are you even talking about? If Heath Care Is a human right, then it doesn't matter where they are from everyone should get treatment. Not the inhumane just let them die regressive shit you seem to think is the way forward. Anything else is just clouding the issue.


surely its up to a countries citizens to get their country to supply suitable health care then it's up to them to change it. So your plan is for OUR NHS to care for every sick person in the world then do you because it's a human right ? Well you know what ? f**k human rights!!!

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:04 pm

The liberal loon is back on it.

The shit he is spouting is straight from
The Green Party manifesto. Utter tripe.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:06 pm

This is like watching question time! Some very good arguments from both sides


Ultimately though I think that health care is a human right. However it is concerning when you watch the Welsh news (the other week) and some father of a young family who had cancer couldn't get the drugs free in Wales but could if he had lived in England.

Put it this way If I had HIV and I knew that I could get free health care to treat my condition. What am I going to do?
I'm going where ever I can to get that healthcare

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:07 pm

cardiff yid wrote:Health care a human right? Female genital mutilation, behead the non Muslim believers. Bleed animals to death, treat women like dogs a human right. ??? Let them get health care in their own shitholes we have a waiting list.

Maybe all those doctors that see you when you get to the top of that waiting list can go back as well then....then we have a skills shortage in this country as our skilled professionals go abroad and you're left to die due to a shortage of specialists. Oh wait, dont want that now do you? So its fine to let the immigrants in to look after you but its not fine to let the immigrants in to be looked after as well? Unbelievable really. I thought the Welsh were better than to lack basic human compassion but it looks like you've bought into the disgusting materialistic outlook the Yanks have enforced on the world through 'liberalism'.

:roll:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:08 pm

maccydee wrote:The liberal loon is back on it.

The shit he is spouting is straight from
The Green Party manifesto. Utter tripe.

No one has mentioned Greens.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:09 pm

Well the Labour government at the time should have trained the youngsters in this country to become doctors rather than open the doors to anyone because it was a cheaper option. Yeah they really do help British youngsters don't they

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:11 pm

blueminati wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Health care a human right? Female genital mutilation, behead the non Muslim believers. Bleed animals to death, treat women like dogs a human right. ??? Let them get health care in their own shitholes we have a waiting list.

Maybe all those doctors that see you when you get to the top of that waiting list can go back as well then....then we have a skills shortage in this country as our skilled professionals go abroad and you're left to die due to a shortage of specialists. Oh wait, dont want that now do you? So its fine to let the immigrants in to look after you but its not fine to let the immigrants in to be looked after as well? Unbelievable really. I thought the Welsh were better than to lack basic human compassion but it looks like you've bought into the disgusting materialistic outlook the Yanks have enforced on the world through 'liberalism'.

:roll:


Works for Australia.

Why would you think someone can rock up in the UK having not paid a penny into this country and receive health care, benefits, a house etc etc? If and when someone with skills comes here they are contributing straight away. Also, let's be honest immigrants come here to get educated so frequently those Drs you talk about have more than likely learnt to be a Dr in a british uni.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:13 pm

blueminati wrote:
maccydee wrote:The liberal loon is back on it.

The shit he is spouting is straight from
The Green Party manifesto. Utter tripe.

No one has mentioned Greens.


I know but some of the bile coming from you is similar to their manifesto. You must be a green or some other left wing loony organisation. Your anti Israel stance shows that up too.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:17 pm

cardiff yid wrote:Health care a human right? Female genital mutilation, behead the non Muslim believers. Bleed animals to death, treat women like dogs a human right. ??? Let them get health care in their own shitholes we have a waiting list.


Yeah cause drunken white British students taking advantage of girls in night clubs and groping them is completely respectful, isn't it? You make it out as if its only people of different races or religions who do evil stuff. Harold Shipman ring a bell? Was Myra Hindley in a niqab? I don't think so kid. You know Anthony Walker...the kid from Liverpool...was he killed by Muslims...Oh no it was white people but of course not the white people they're angelic liberalised people who do no wrong. The alleged pedophile cover up within the political system...you know that BRITISH POLITICAL CLASS FULL OF WHITE PEOPLE.....they were clearly guided by the scripts of Islam weren't they? What about the attacks on mosques up and down the country? As for bleeding animals to death....thats obviously horrendous until a chubby Brit needs a kebab on the way home from Canton after several pints isn't it? You dont care that you've got Halal meat then do you? Do you take such objection to the factory farms that make animals LIVE for extended periods of times in horrific conditions but the moment an animal is put out of its misery all hell breaks loose. The way some of you go on you'd think white Brits walked on bloody water. Withdraw your blinkered heads from your own backside for one moment and smell the roses.

Fed up of listening to how high and mighty the 'liberalised' west is.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:19 pm

Why don't you f**k off to Syria you tosser

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:20 pm

blueminati wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:Health care a human right? Female genital mutilation, behead the non Muslim believers. Bleed animals to death, treat women like dogs a human right. ??? Let them get health care in their own shitholes we have a waiting list.


Yeah cause drunken white British students taking advantage of girls in night clubs and groping them is completely respectful, isn't it? You make it out as if its only people of different races or religions who do evil stuff. Harold Shipman ring a bell? Was Myra Hindley in a niqab? I don't think so kid. You know Anthony Walker...the kid from Liverpool...was he killed by Muslims...Oh no it was white people but of course not the white people they're angelic liberalised people who do no wrong. The alleged pedophile cover up within the political system...you know that BRITISH POLITICAL CLASS FULL OF WHITE PEOPLE.....they were clearly guided by the scripts of Islam weren't they? What about the attacks on mosques up and down the country? As for bleeding animals to death....thats obviously horrendous until a chubby Brit needs a kebab on the way home from Canton after several pints isn't it? You dont care that you've got Halal meat then do you? Do you take such objection to the factory farms that make animals LIVE for extended periods of times in horrific conditions but the moment an animal is put out of its misery all hell breaks loose. The way some of you go on you'd think white Brits walked on bloody water. Withdraw your blinkered heads from your own backside for one moment and smell the roses.

Fed up of listening to how high and mighty the 'liberalised' west is.


Please feel free to go and live in a different country then.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:20 pm

Tell you what Blueminati, F**k Farage, Cameron and Milaband. I'm voting for you next month!

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:23 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:Tell you what Blueminati, F**k Farage, Cameron and Milaband. I'm voting for you next month!


You can. Vote Galloway.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:26 pm

maccydee wrote:Works for Australia.
Australia is currently undergoing its largest immigration drive in 40 years, tempting workers to the country with promises of shorter hours, a better climate and a lower cost of living. Europe – and especially the UK – is the main target for finding new immigrants to Australia.

Clearly works. That's why they've got a massive skills shortage.

Why would you think someone can rock up in the UK having not paid a penny into this country and receive health care, benefits, a house etc etc?

They can't unless they're asylum seekers. Very few migrants are asylum seekers and it would be inhumane to send them back.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:29 pm

cardiff yid wrote:Why don't you f**k off to Syria you tosser

So because the truth hurts now I'm being told where to go which is exactly what you do to immigrants you dislike because people you have an ingrained fear of people who talk different language, look different and pray to a different God. Next time you're at the doctors and you see a Muslim GP be sure to let him know how you feel. He might give you something a little stronger than paracetamol like a fist to the face.

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:34 pm

What makes me laugh is that blueminati obviously presents very well informed, reasonable and balanced views/arguments and the best that Cardiff yid can contribute is "Why don't you f**k off to Syria you tosser"

What a plum. Bet he forms he political views from the front page of the daily star

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sat Apr 04, 2015 10:47 pm

Roathblue33 wrote:What makes me laugh is that blueminati obviously presents very well informed, reasonable and balanced views/arguments and the best that Cardiff yid can contribute is "Why don't you f**k off to Syria you tosser"

What a plum. Bet he forms he political views from the front page of the daily star
well balanced ? Don't think so more like he got his head in the clouds

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:23 am

blueminati wrote:
maccydee wrote:Works for Australia.
Australia is currently undergoing its largest immigration drive in 40 years, tempting workers to the country with promises of shorter hours, a better climate and a lower cost of living. Europe – and especially the UK – is the main target for finding new immigrants to Australia.

Clearly works. That's why they've got a massive skills shortage.

Why would you think someone can rock up in the UK having not paid a penny into this country and receive health care, benefits, a house etc etc?

They can't unless they're asylum seekers. Very few migrants are asylum seekers and it would be inhumane to send them back.



You obviously are putting a simplistic view on what they are doing? Yes they are trying to attract professional people from all over world particularly from uk to work there but they will not take any tom dick or harry like we do, people that dont even speak English! ! Fact for you in cardiff council told me there was about 7yr waiting list for housing ! :o but if i was rumanian/ somalian ect they would put me up in b&b but within 6mnths they would house me? Why because its cheaper in long run to house them but i dont qualify for such treatment? I was born in cardiff! !! :lol:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:13 am

Military Junta wrote:
blueminati wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Farage was on about non EU citizens

Non EU citizens are let in for asylum purposes or on merit. They're also vetted for things like tuberculosis. Must be lovely for you Adam being born into a fairly privileged predicament whereas poor little Mohammad from Mozambique was born into poverty with AID's, walked 5 miles to school and back per day to study hard and become a doctor only for Little self righteous entitled prats in the land of materialism to say 'no you cant come in sorry cause you've got AIDs'. :roll:


I pay into a NATIONAL health service not an International health service


Great rebuttal :thumbup: :thumbup: exactly how the people who pay taxes feel, when Barnett contributes and gets a proper job, he might want to question where his money goes

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:14 am

Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
RFMH wrote:Health Care is a human right. That's as far as the debate needs to go.


Well they should sort their own country out then to give them health care rather than scounging off ours


Tf are you even talking about? If Heath Care Is a human right, then it doesn't matter where they are from everyone should get treatment. Not the inhumane just let them die regressive shit you seem to think is the way forward. Anything else is just clouding the issue.


surely its up to a countries citizens to get their country to supply suitable health care then it's up to them to change it. So your plan is for OUR NHS to care for every sick person in the world then do you because it's a human right ? Well you know what ? f**k human rights!!!


What an inhumane cry baby. Health care is a human right, other countries need to work towards that rather than us be like them. You don't want people from other countries dictating how this country governs and is run, yet you talk about how other countries should act. :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:21 am

If the leaders of these countries spent less money on lavish homes and AK47s Africa, the birth place of mankind, would be a great place to live.

Can anyone suggest one country in Africa where you would want to live?.................... :old:

Re: Farage is right about HIV

Sun Apr 05, 2015 8:47 am

Fusilier23 wrote:If the leaders of these countries spent less money on lavish homes and AK47s Africa, the birth place of mankind, would be a great place to live.

Can anyone suggest one country in Africa where you would want to live?.................... :old:


South Africa possibly.