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I thought Woods looked amatuer and i am sure the distinguished gentlemen who have been the leaders or leading politicians were not pleased with her note driven stuttering performance either.....Please don't post a paste a quote from them after the event ....They all won

It was the "diolch yn fawr" at the end of the evening that drummed it home.....Its will always be associated as a language obsessed party rather than a serious alternative to labour. The SNP do not have the stigma of the language, they can concentrate on the real issues. The sight of the translators earphones at the senedd really highlights the pettiness of our country.

Wood i believe is the first non Welsh speaking leader, as they need to spread into the valleys, but the first thing she had to do is learn the language, as there is still a sniff of elitism within the party.

I am not sure where the OP believes the break through will come from, but in the key SE seats they will poll less than ukip forget about labour

Are you seriously riled by the 'diolch yn fawr' at the end of her closing statement? Wow, that is shocking. What's wrong with speaking a language that has official status in Wales? At least it shows the ignorant little Englanders (like Farage and his UKIP chums) that there are other living indigenous languages in the UK besides English.

To describe bilingualism as 'pettiness' and the language as a 'stigma' is quite staggering and just shows your ignorance and narrow-mindedness, frankly.

By the way, she's never been forced to learn the language. She was learning before she became leader.

Read it again, not riled !!!! But the last statement was a reminder of the language question, can you speak Welsh or not and if you can you are a little bit more Welsh. For me until they rid themselves of that "stigma" they will never be taken seriously outside west Wales and Anglesey.

The Scots don't have to put the ear piece in when one or two member want to feel more Scottish. I am sure the Somali or Polish family living around the corner appreciate not being able to understand what the hell is going on.

But of course it's my fault for not being able to speak Welsh.....

Bilingualism costs our little country a fortune,money Leanne was moaning about not having.... It's all a nice to have, but meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

The world is shrinking, but we want to be inwardly looking.....

Sorry wrong maybe £400000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-18159802

Welsh is our national language. What is your problem? Have you actually been abroad? It may shock you but other countries do just fine with their own language and English as a 2nd language.

Other countries do just fine because they all speak their own language. Almost three quarters of the people of Wales have no Welsh speaking ability, and English is not a second language as far as the majority of Wales is concerned.

Other countries speak their own language because they're proud to do so rather than trying to ostracise those that want to like the disgusting little race traitors in Wales. It's embarrassing. Stand up and be proud of your country and everything it stands for rather than belittling those that do. OUR COUNTRY IS AMAZING!

GREAT SINGERS - Katherine Jenkins, Tom Jones, all the rock bands, etc.
GREAT ATHLETES - Bale, Ramsey, Jackson, rugby team
GREAT POLITICIANS - Bevan did more for the UK in terms of real changethan pretty much most other politicians
GREAT LANDSCAPE - just a drive around Wales will tell you how beautiful it is
GREAT CULTURAL HERITAGE - St Davids Day, all the castles and attractions
OUR OWN LANGUAGE - yes, our own language - a language that has historical links we SHOULD BE PROUD OF
GREAT HISTORY - too much to list in this section but Men of Harlech should be all you need to know what i mean

Anyone who says we cant be a prosperous nation without England is a pessimist and needs to leave cause its that kind of disgusting attitude that holds countries back. If all the Balkan/Baltic countries had your backward mentality they'd all still be living under communist rule. Instead they broke free and now are progressing and developing as member states of the EU.

Wales can be strong. Wales can do it. Wales deserved its OWN seat at the biggest meetings in the world. Wales deserves its OWN say on EU affairs. Wales deserves INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION rather than being regarded as that bit of England so many people think it is.

All the pessimists who think we need England are holding us back.

Sorry wrong maybe £400000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-18159802

Welsh is our national language. What is your problem? Have you actually been abroad? It may shock you but other countries do just fine with their own language and English as a 2nd language.

Other countries do just fine because they all speak their own language. Almost three quarters of the people of Wales have no Welsh speaking ability, and English is not a second language as far as the majority of Wales is concerned.

Mr Zodiak,
Being abroad many many times.
Why waste voting for a bunch of cretins. They are not popular in Wales, its mostly labour who again don't stick up for the working man anymore.
Anyway I don't care about Welsh speakers as not many people speak Welsh in south east wales.
Fed up of having of rammed down our throats.

Sorry wrong maybe £400000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-18159802

Welsh is our national language. What is your problem? Have you actually been abroad? It may shock you but other countries do just fine with their own language and English as a 2nd language.

Other countries do just fine because they all speak their own language. Almost three quarters of the people of Wales have no Welsh speaking ability, and English is not a second language as far as the majority of Wales is concerned.

Other countries speak their own language because they're proud to do so rather than trying to ostracise those that want to like the disgusting little race traitors in Wales. It's embarrassing. Stand up and be proud of your country and everything it stands for rather than belittling those that do. OUR COUNTRY IS AMAZING!

GREAT SINGERS - Katherine Jenkins, Tom Jones, all the rock bands, etc.
GREAT ATHLETES - Bale, Ramsey, Jackson, rugby team
GREAT POLITICIANS - Bevan did more for the UK in terms of real changethan pretty much most other politicians
GREAT LANDSCAPE - just a drive around Wales will tell you how beautiful it is
GREAT CULTURAL HERITAGE - St Davids Day, all the castles and attractions
OUR OWN LANGUAGE - yes, our own language - a language that has historical links we SHOULD BE PROUD OF
GREAT HISTORY - too much to list in this section but Men of Harlech should be all you need to know what i mean

Anyone who says we cant be a prosperous nation without England is a pessimist and needs to leave cause its that kind of disgusting attitude that holds countries back. If all the Balkan/Baltic countries had your backward mentality they'd all still be living under communist rule. Instead they broke free and now are progressing and developing as member states of the EU.

Wales can be strong. Wales can do it. Wales deserved its OWN seat at the biggest meetings in the world. Wales deserves its OWN say on EU affairs. Wales deserves INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION rather than being regarded as that bit of England so many people think it is.

All the pessimists who think we need England are holding us back.

There was a strategy for the former communist block , a distanced Russia and cheap labour.

Wales era as the EU cheap labour country ended when they were inducted into the euro family. We are 70 years too late to consider independence.

You are right we don't need England Just London....... As does the rest of the UK. 35 years of policies has ensured that is the case.

Sorry wrong maybe £400000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-18159802

Welsh is our national language. What is your problem? Have you actually been abroad? It may shock you but other countries do just fine with their own language and English as a 2nd language.

Other countries do just fine because they all speak their own language. Almost three quarters of the people of Wales have no Welsh speaking ability, and English is not a second language as far as the majority of Wales is concerned.

Other countries speak their own language because they're proud to do so rather than trying to ostracise those that want to like the disgusting little race traitors in Wales. It's embarrassing. Stand up and be proud of your country and everything it stands for rather than belittling those that do. OUR COUNTRY IS AMAZING!

GREAT SINGERS - Katherine Jenkins, Tom Jones, all the rock bands, etc.
GREAT ATHLETES - Bale, Ramsey, Jackson, rugby team
GREAT POLITICIANS - Bevan did more for the UK in terms of real changethan pretty much most other politicians
GREAT LANDSCAPE - just a drive around Wales will tell you how beautiful it is
GREAT CULTURAL HERITAGE - St Davids Day, all the castles and attractions
OUR OWN LANGUAGE - yes, our own language - a language that has historical links we SHOULD BE PROUD OF
GREAT HISTORY - too much to list in this section but Men of Harlech should be all you need to know what i mean

Anyone who says we cant be a prosperous nation without England is a pessimist and needs to leave cause its that kind of disgusting attitude that holds countries back. If all the Balkan/Baltic countries had your backward mentality they'd all still be living under communist rule. Instead they broke free and now are progressing and developing as member states of the EU.

Wales can be strong. Wales can do it. Wales deserved its OWN seat at the biggest meetings in the world. Wales deserves its OWN say on EU affairs. Wales deserves INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION rather than being regarded as that bit of England so many people think it is.

All the pessimists who think we need England are holding us back.

You are separating love of Wales, from the logical stand point that we are not capable of sustaining our current life style in the modern world.

To think our lives would improve after Independence is just fantasy.

And to think, how many people died during the wars protecting the United Kingdom for you just to claim it is worthless.

Is this the same Leanne Wood who thinks she is leader of the party of Wherles? It's Wales Leanne

The same Leanne Wood who was stood next to leader of the Lairbour party? Wrong again Leanne, it's Labour!

Finally, it's votes you're after Leanne not vaughts!!

Don't think she will be getting too many, simply embarrassing!

Are you really mocking her accent? When your username is 'Valley Lad'?

It's nothing to do with accent!
It's pronunciation and as a leader of a political party, it's embarrassing. I have a Welsh accent and I'm proud of it, but when you have a person supposedly representing 'Wales' speaking in that manner, it's no wonder we get mocked it's cringeworthy.

Many people have complimented her on her accent.

Matthew Parris called it "beautiful"

Plaid Cymru are a totally insignificant party whose policies are more left wing than Labour. Leanne Wood was embarrassing on the tv the other night. It was like watching your parents dancing at a wedding ! . Our country owes billions in national debt and Plaid Cymru's answer is to borrow even more money ! . They will win their usual 3 or 4 seats at most in the election and that is it. Small minded insular party obsessed with the Welsh language. Now don't get me started on English speaking parents who can't speak Welsh who send their children to Welsh speaking schools ! Also, the Welsh assembly spends more money on Welsh speaking schools than on English speaking schools which is totally wrong.

Plaid Cymru are a totally insignificant party whose policies are more left wing than Labour. Leanne Wood was embarrassing on the tv the other night. It was like watching your parents dancing at a wedding ! . Our country owes billions in national debt and Plaid Cymru's answer is to borrow even more money !

Why are we in so much debt in the first place? That's right, a government in Westminster who do as they wish. They have borrowed all of that. However, in respect of borrowing, that has been going on for decades and decades regardless. Yes, they are more left wing than Labour but they're democratic-socialists, much like the parties in Scandinavia. What is wrong with having a country built around people rather than solely profits? Nothing.

Leanne Wood destroyed Farage and his claptrap of billions being spent on Health Tourism and 60% as a percentage figure were both way off. He cant even get his facts straight and is scaremongering idiots into voting for his party who think they are a party of the people. Farage is just coming out with populist soundbites and in reality he still supports the corporatist agenda. He was a conservative for years. The only reason he left was cause of the ToM. At heart, he's still the same bleeding heart Tory he was back in those days so if you want a country built around 1980s Conservatism then keep voting for UKIP.

After Woods performance during the week you would be mad to vote for her. Pmsl

The only person there who truly cares about Wales. You would have to be stupid not to see that. Good performance. Put "two policy Farage" in his place.

The only party that will allow us to make our own decision and stay in the EU once the UK withdraws. We benefit so much from being an EU member that leaving would be disastrous. Free movement is great for Wales.

Vote Plaid Cymru. Wales can be great no matter what all the doom and gloom merchants say.

Vote for policies for the Welsh people, not policies for London profit.

That would be your only decision made on your own as every other one would be made by the EU, which is why your party is so hypocritical. Plaid want devolution so that the English in Westminster are not governing Wales, yet once they are out of the UK would join the EU so that they could be governed by the Germans and the French. The party just wants more jobs for career politicians with the four layers of government that comes as part of the EU package, rather than the three outside the EU or even two if a return to the old style of politics without the waste of space National Assembly. Wales has almost got all that is required in resources to be a successful independent country, enough water; arable land for crops; enough marginal land for livestock; enough energy; fabulous scenery for tourism; a barely adequate transport network ; but the only politicians who want independence are more interested in their own pockets chasing the extra jobs that the EU provides for career politicians.

Only interested in their own pockets?? That's your opinion. No evidence to back it up.

Plaid Cymru are a totally insignificant party whose policies are more left wing than Labour. Leanne Wood was embarrassing on the tv the other night. It was like watching your parents dancing at a wedding ! . Our country owes billions in national debt and Plaid Cymru's answer is to borrow even more money ! . They will win their usual 3 or 4 seats at most in the election and that is it. Small minded insular party obsessed with the Welsh language. Now don't get me started on English speaking parents who can't speak Welsh who send their children to Welsh speaking schools ! Also, the Welsh assembly spends more money on Welsh speaking schools than on English speaking schools which is totally wrong.

How are they obsessed with the Welsh language?

Do you have any figures which support your claims?

Is this the same Leanne Wood who thinks she is leader of the party of Wherles? It's Wales Leanne

The same Leanne Wood who was stood next to leader of the Lairbour party? Wrong again Leanne, it's Labour!

Finally, it's votes you're after Leanne not vaughts!!

Don't think she will be getting too many, simply embarrassing!

Are you really mocking her accent? When your username is 'Valley Lad'?

It's nothing to do with accent!
It's pronunciation and as a leader of a political party, it's embarrassing. I have a Welsh accent and I'm proud of it, but when you have a person supposedly representing 'Wales' speaking in that manner, it's no wonder we get mocked it's cringeworthy.

An accent is a distinctive way of pronouncing a language you absolute berk, the two are linked!

If people want to take issue with her accent, that's their problem. They're just being incredibly childish.

Plaid cymru, the party who gets English translated in to welsh which costs £250000 of taxpayers money.....

Don't care if Wales benefits from E U money. The money stays in Cardiff anyway and doesn't go to other parts of Wales.

I'm voting UKIP as a protest vote.

You've probably made those figures up, haven't you? And you do know that the Welsh government is run by Labour, not Plaid?

By the way, do you know that all parties support the language, not only Plaid?

A big ONE-nil to Cwmann

Plaid cymru, the party who gets English translated in to welsh which costs £250000 of taxpayers money.....

Don't care if Wales benefits from E U money. The money stays in Cardiff anyway and doesn't go to other parts of Wales.

I'm voting UKIP as a protest vote.

You've probably made those figures up, haven't you? And you do know that the Welsh government is run by Labour, not Plaid?

By the way, do you know that all parties support the language, not only Plaid?

Sorry wrong maybe £400000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-18159802

But as Cwmann said.....it's Labour who run the Assembly not Plaid and secondly ALL parties agree with the language policy so what is your point?

I thought Woods looked amatuer and i am sure the distinguished gentlemen who have been the leaders or leading politicians were not pleased with her note driven stuttering performance either.....Please don't post a paste a quote from them after the event ....They all won

It was the "diolch yn fawr" at the end of the evening that drummed it home.....Its will always be associated as a language obsessed party rather than a serious alternative to labour. The SNP do not have the stigma of the language, they can concentrate on the real issues. The sight of the translators earphones at the senedd really highlights the pettiness of our country.

Wood i believe is the first non Welsh speaking leader, as they need to spread into the valleys, but the first thing she had to do is learn the language, as there is still a sniff of elitism within the party.

I am not sure where the OP believes the break through will come from, but in the key SE seats they will poll less than ukip forget about labour

Are you seriously riled by the 'diolch yn fawr' at the end of her closing statement? Wow, that is shocking. What's wrong with speaking a language that has official status in Wales? At least it shows the ignorant little Englanders (like Farage and his UKIP chums) that there are other living indigenous languages in the UK besides English.

To describe bilingualism as 'pettiness' and the language as a 'stigma' is quite staggering and just shows your ignorance and narrow-mindedness, frankly.

By the way, she's never been forced to learn the language. She was learning before she became leader.

Read it again, not riled !!!! But the last statement was a reminder of the language question, can you speak Welsh or not and if you can you are a little bit more Welsh. For me until they rid themselves of that "stigma" they will never be taken seriously outside west Wales and Anglesey.

The Scots don't have to put the ear piece in when one or two member want to feel more Scottish. I am sure the Somali or Polish family living around the corner appreciate not being able to understand what the hell is going on.

But of course it's my fault for not being able to speak Welsh.....

Bilingualism costs our little country a fortune,money Leanne was moaning about not having.... It's all a nice to have, but meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

The world is shrinking, but we want to be inwardly looking.....

She spoke THREE words of Welsh. If that really is an issue (which no one has commented upon, incidentally), then God help you. As I said, it's strange how some still associate only Plaid with the language, when ALL the parties in the Assembly support the language.

Do you have evidence for bilingualism costing more?

I'm sure you'd like Welsh to be extinct, which is sad, but there we are. Many are yet to rid themselves of such an archaic way of thinking. Like it or not, Cymraeg is what makes Wales unique.

They are a shitty party with shitty small minded ideas that only people who pick and choose the information they want to hear because it fits with their misplaced narrative. An independent Wales as it stands would be almost instantly bankrupt, and don't give me your shit about about unfunded tidal lagoons and flogging water to England. We would be better off trying to flog magic beans to the English

And your solution to poverty in Wales is??

Out of them all whether people like him or not Cameron was the only one to come out with any economic plan going forward.

The moment he said 'you will raise debt with taxes', 'you will raise debt with taxes' was a very good comment. Also when he mentioned 70 Labour MPs employing people on zero hour contracts. Plus the 'Mid Staffs' comment but that's another thing.

Im confused with Plaids message of late. They want to represent the people of Wales yet want to welcome more immigrants so the very people they want to represent wont be able to get jobs, housing etc because of the extra immigration they want to bring in. They then say they want to create (I think it was) 20,000 public sector jobs yet first of all whos going to pay for that and also out of that 20,000 figure then how many of them will be filled by the extra immigrants they want to being into the communities of Wales. Sorry but some of their plans are written on back of a fag packet and Labours too. For example Labours plan to tackle zero hour contacts are that after 12 weeks people should be given a permanent contract so as a result the amount of 11 week contracts will boom and if you are limiting people to 11 weeks work then its making them worse off then if they were on a ongoing zero hours contract!!!!

Back of a fag packet stuff

f**k Plaid, vote UKIP. Reclaim the country before it's too late

I thought Woods looked amatuer and i am sure the distinguished gentlemen who have been the leaders or leading politicians were not pleased with her note driven stuttering performance either.....Please don't post a paste a quote from them after the event ....They all won

It was the "diolch yn fawr" at the end of the evening that drummed it home.....Its will always be associated as a language obsessed party rather than a serious alternative to labour. The SNP do not have the stigma of the language, they can concentrate on the real issues. The sight of the translators earphones at the senedd really highlights the pettiness of our country.

Wood i believe is the first non Welsh speaking leader, as they need to spread into the valleys, but the first thing she had to do is learn the language, as there is still a sniff of elitism within the party.

I am not sure where the OP believes the break through will come from, but in the key SE seats they will poll less than ukip forget about labour

Are you seriously riled by the 'diolch yn fawr' at the end of her closing statement? Wow, that is shocking. What's wrong with speaking a language that has official status in Wales? At least it shows the ignorant little Englanders (like Farage and his UKIP chums) that there are other living indigenous languages in the UK besides English.

To describe bilingualism as 'pettiness' and the language as a 'stigma' is quite staggering and just shows your ignorance and narrow-mindedness, frankly.

By the way, she's never been forced to learn the language. She was learning before she became leader.

Read it again, not riled !!!! But the last statement was a reminder of the language question, can you speak Welsh or not and if you can you are a little bit more Welsh. For me until they rid themselves of that "stigma" they will never be taken seriously outside west Wales and Anglesey.

The Scots don't have to put the ear piece in when one or two member want to feel more Scottish. I am sure the Somali or Polish family living around the corner appreciate not being able to understand what the hell is going on.

But of course it's my fault for not being able to speak Welsh.....

Bilingualism costs our little country a fortune,money Leanne was moaning about not having.... It's all a nice to have, but meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

The world is shrinking, but we want to be inwardly looking.....

Plaid are not the party of Wales ,how can they want devolution but want to stay in Europe ,thwrestling a big world out there why dint we trade with it

Out of them all whether people like him or not Cameron was the only one to come out with any economic plan going forward.

You mean a plan of putting 99%+ of the population through austerity whilst multinationals get away with contributing little? Yeah, solid economic plan. You must be living in cloud cuckoo land if you think the Tories have a plan that is in your interests. A very small percentile of the population benefit from what is currently going on.

Plaid are not the party of Wales ,how can they want devolution but want to stay in Europe ,thwrestling a big world out there why dint we trade with it

We benefit from being a member of the EU in terms of research funding and investment. Wales would be more free if it left the UK but remained in the EU because it would remove one tier of governance over us. We'd also get more of a say on EU matters that are great for Wales like the CAP which Little Englanders like Farage want to get rid of which would be disastrous for Wales.

Plaid are not the party of Wales ,how can they want devolution but want to stay in Europe ,thwrestling a big world out there why dint we trade with it

We benefit from being a member of the EU in terms of research funding and investment. Wales would be more free if it left the UK but remained in the EU because it would remove one tier of governance over us. We'd also get more of a say on EU matters that are great for Wales like the CAP which Little Englanders like Farage want to get rid of which would be disastrous for Wales.

swapping one for another ,the eu is the worse of the both ,why should we have laws made in Brussels? either get more powers and stay in the UK or go totally devolved from them all

if we left the UK wouldn't we'd have to adopt the euro.

we'd also get less money coming through the government coffers. slate england all you want but it pays the bills.

scotland has a stronger economy than ours and they have natural resources in the form of north sea oil. even with that in mind they decided against independence. independence would be a disaster for the welsh economy and would initially lead to mass unemployment as public sector jobs like the DVLA would be relocated back to the UK.

I thought Woods looked amatuer and i am sure the distinguished gentlemen who have been the leaders or leading politicians were not pleased with her note driven stuttering performance either.....Please don't post a paste a quote from them after the event ....They all won

It was the "diolch yn fawr" at the end of the evening that drummed it home.....Its will always be associated as a language obsessed party rather than a serious alternative to labour. The SNP do not have the stigma of the language, they can concentrate on the real issues. The sight of the translators earphones at the senedd really highlights the pettiness of our country.

Wood i believe is the first non Welsh speaking leader, as they need to spread into the valleys, but the first thing she had to do is learn the language, as there is still a sniff of elitism within the party.

I am not sure where the OP believes the break through will come from, but in the key SE seats they will poll less than ukip forget about labour

Are you seriously riled by the 'diolch yn fawr' at the end of her closing statement? Wow, that is shocking. What's wrong with speaking a language that has official status in Wales? At least it shows the ignorant little Englanders (like Farage and his UKIP chums) that there are other living indigenous languages in the UK besides English.

To describe bilingualism as 'pettiness' and the language as a 'stigma' is quite staggering and just shows your ignorance and narrow-mindedness, frankly.

By the way, she's never been forced to learn the language. She was learning before she became leader.

Read it again, not riled !!!! But the last statement was a reminder of the language question, can you speak Welsh or not and if you can you are a little bit more Welsh. For me until they rid themselves of that "stigma" they will never be taken seriously outside west Wales and Anglesey.

The Scots don't have to put the ear piece in when one or two member want to feel more Scottish. I am sure the Somali or Polish family living around the corner appreciate not being able to understand what the hell is going on.

But of course it's my fault for not being able to speak Welsh.....

Bilingualism costs our little country a fortune,money Leanne was moaning about not having.... It's all a nice to have, but meaningless in the whole scheme of things.

The world is shrinking, but we want to be inwardly looking.....

She spoke THREE words of Welsh. If that really is an issue (which no one has commented upon, incidentally), then God help you. As I said, it's strange how some still associate only Plaid with the language, when ALL the parties in the Assembly support the language.

Do you have evidence for bilingualism costing more?

I'm sure you'd like Welsh to be extinct, which is sad, but there we are. Many are yet to rid themselves of such an archaic way of thinking. Like it or not, Cymraeg is what makes Wales unique.

I don't care if Welsh is active or extinct. If I cared I would learn it. What I wouldn't do is legislate that all government bodies duplicate every bloody document into Welsh when nearly everybody in the country understands English.....If you don't think all those duplicated documents and translators don't cost, well...., but that has little to do with the Plaid debate.

For the spring conference Leanne spoke for the first 4.5 mins of her 38 min speech in school Welsh...... Bravo, I don't agree with her politics but thats gutsy. If the language is not the main issue within the party then what the point when its so plainly obvious that English is her first language.....But it was important for her to won over the plaid traditionalists.

Thats is why some still associate only Plaid with the language........

http://gov.wales/about/foi/responses/dl ... 1/?lang=en

First google search....£27k spent replacing perfectly good signs....Just an example there will be hundred running into millions.

The UK should stay as it is. We would have to raise taxes to silly levels if we went it alone and we have no industry to speak of any more.

the UK is stronger as one

I always do

The only party that will allow us to make our own decision and stay in the EU once the UK withdraws. We benefit so much from being an EU member that leaving would be disastrous. Free movement is great for Wales.

Vote Plaid Cymru. Wales can be great no matter what all the doom and gloom merchants say.

Vote for policies for the Welsh people, not policies for London profit.

That would be your only decision made on your own as every other one would be made by the EU, which is why your party is so hypocritical. Plaid want devolution so that the English in Westminster are not governing Wales, yet once they are out of the UK would join the EU so that they could be governed by the Germans and the French. The party just wants more jobs for career politicians with the four layers of government that comes as part of the EU package, rather than the three outside the EU or even two if a return to the old style of politics without the waste of space National Assembly. Wales has almost got all that is required in resources to be a successful independent country, enough water; arable land for crops; enough marginal land for livestock; enough energy; fabulous scenery for tourism; a barely adequate transport network ; but the only politicians who want independence are more interested in their own pockets chasing the extra jobs that the EU provides for career politicians.

Still waiting for your reply.

The only party that will allow us to make our own decision and stay in the EU once the UK withdraws. We benefit so much from being an EU member that leaving would be disastrous. Free movement is great for Wales.

Vote Plaid Cymru. Wales can be great no matter what all the doom and gloom merchants say.

Vote for policies for the Welsh people, not policies for London profit.

That would be your only decision made on your own as every other one would be made by the EU, which is why your party is so hypocritical. Plaid want devolution so that the English in Westminster are not governing Wales, yet once they are out of the UK would join the EU so that they could be governed by the Germans and the French. The party just wants more jobs for career politicians with the four layers of government that comes as part of the EU package, rather than the three outside the EU or even two if a return to the old style of politics without the waste of space National Assembly. Wales has almost got all that is required in resources to be a successful independent country, enough water; arable land for crops; enough marginal land for livestock; enough energy; fabulous scenery for tourism; a barely adequate transport network ; but the only politicians who want independence are more interested in their own pockets chasing the extra jobs that the EU provides for career politicians.

Still waiting for your reply.

You are incorrect. There are more layers as it currently is.

WAG
UK Gov
EU

If we left there'd be one less layer because we'd no longer be governed by Westminster. It'd simply be WAG < EU. We'd then be represented at EU level by Welsh MEP's standing for Wales on Welsh matters. The only real argument I can say 'fair enough' to on not wanting that is the adoption of the Euro.