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Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:04 pm

Still don't feel any different about Cardiff than before the rebrand or during the rebrand. Glad we're back in the blue but it's always been Cardiff City to me and each win and defeat has always been enjoyed or hurt just the same. Will always support the team and go to as many games as I can :ayatollah:

Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:16 pm

I have been going down the city since 1969, mostly as a ST holder except for a period where I was too busy in work for a few years. I am 61 now and I am at the stage where if I attend in freezing or wet conditions, I want to be entertained with half decent football. I don't think it is too much to ask for a team to put in a decent performance even if we lose as the players are grossly overpaid but still lack effort. I was not a great fan of MM, but at least his teams showed spirit and got results. This season has been the worst since the days of Alan Durban and I for one will not be renewing my season ticket next season while Russell Slade and Scott Young are in charge as the the football is awful and their handling of players are disgusting.

I can,t wait for the season to end and hope that there are major changes by next season starting with a new management team, as the recent literature I received said that the club wants to target a return to the premiership, but I can't for the life of me believe that with recent events within the club.

I hope I am proved wrong and I shall continue to support from afar until such time I feel the club starts to move forward again.

Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:36 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.

thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.

we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.

But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.


but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?

in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.


Spot on :thumbup: you can guarantee that 99% of those not renewing season tickets would be buying season tickets if we were playing Premiership football or chasing promotion, the club has always been badly run, in fact far worse than it is now, so no change there, we have our colour, badge, identity back, so no change there. All that has changed is that we have had and will have mediocre football for the last two years and possibly for the foreseeable future and so called long time supporters have lost their mojo. They would probably hate to admit it, but they are in love with the Premiership, just like any newbie supporter :thumbup:


With all due respect Leytonstoneblue, that last sentence of your opinion is way off the mark for the supporters who have lived and died CCFC over the many years. I agree with others that league position and results have nothing to do with the way they are feeling and to say the love the premiership like a newbie supporter does them and so called newbie supporter (surely these newbies are the ones to encourage for the future?) a great dis-service.

I do not think that it is because of any one particular aspect of supporting City, I just feel that even though we have blue and badge now we all feel a little deflated - for me (a supporter since my dad took me down to the old wooden creosoted Canton stand in 1969/70 season) - the top league dream (premiership/division 1) which I thought would never come in my time - was messed up big time by Tan's meddling, etc.

We all have an opinion as to why some feel disgruntled with the way things are and I would never disrespect any city supporter, especially the 20, 30, 40, 50 year supporters.

I will always support the Bluebirds and get to home and away games when I can.

Blooobirds Forever !!! :bluescarf: :old: :thumbup:

Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:04 pm

ccfcsince62 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.

thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.

we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.

But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.


but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?

in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.



On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.


not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?

the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.

you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.

Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:34 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
ccfcsince62 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.

thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.

we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.

But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.


but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?

in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.



On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.


not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?

the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.

you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.

I can understand how he feels. I've been a regular since the days of Toshack and there is something different about this club, something I haven't felt in close on 50 years of following them. I missed our PL season as I refused to watch them play in red, and so the level we play at is not affecting how I feel.

Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:20 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
ccfcsince62 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.

thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.

we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.

But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.


but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?

in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.



On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.


not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?

the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.

you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.


To be blunt I don't care whether you are convinced or not. I know my own mind thank you and I was not aware you had any supernatural powers as a mind reader to counter that view. So whatever you think you know, you actually don't know at all ,let alone be able to boast that you can "guarantee" it.

If I was bored with crap football I would have given up supporting the club decades ago. If you would state how many years you have been supporting the club , we can easily see what proportion of our respective years of support have been at the higher levels of the league pyramid and others on here can the judge for themselves which of us is more likely be be influenced by success on the field.

I cite the board for running up the historical recent debt levels without having the football knowledge or skills to justify or control. Further, they collectively seem to have forgotten or ignored where their legal duties of an insolvent business should be under UK legislationAnd it is basically still the same board now as last season with the exception of Ken Choo who appears a far better than Simon Lim but still brings little or no football knowledge to the board. These factors , in my professional view,have created the greatest financial risk to the survival of the football club that it has ever had.

Re: " Why a season ticker holder for 53 years might Not Rene

Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:41 pm

ccfcsince62 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
ccfcsince62 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.

thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.

we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.

But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.


but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?

in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.



On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.


not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?

the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.

you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.


To be blunt I don't care whether you are convinced or not. I know my own mind thank you and I was not aware you had any supernatural powers as a mind reader to counter that view. So whatever you think you know, you actually don't know at all ,let alone be able to boast that you can "guarantee" it.

If I was bored with crap football I would have given up supporting the club decades ago. If you would state how many years you have been supporting the club , we can easily see what proportion of our respective years of support have been at the higher levels of the league pyramid and others on here can the judge for themselves which of us is more likely be be influenced by success on the field.

I cite the board for running up the historical recent debt levels without having the football knowledge or skills to justify or control. Further, they collectively seem to have forgotten or ignored where their legal duties of an insolvent business should be under UK legislationAnd it is basically still the same board now as last season with the exception of Ken Choo who appears a far better than Simon Lim but still brings little or no football knowledge to the board. These factors , in my professional view,have created the greatest financial risk to the survival of the football club that it has ever had.

Find it hard to disagree with anything you have said. There is a great deal of uncertainty here at the minute, and as you say the club is being run by people with virtually no knowledge of operating a football club. The club will soon raise funds by the sale of their most valuable players, and if fans think that this money will be reinvested I think they are going to be in for a big disappointment.