Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:04 pm
Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:16 pm
Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:36 pm
Leytonstoneblue wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.
thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.
we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.
But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.
but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?
in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.
Spot onyou can guarantee that 99% of those not renewing season tickets would be buying season tickets if we were playing Premiership football or chasing promotion, the club has always been badly run, in fact far worse than it is now, so no change there, we have our colour, badge, identity back, so no change there. All that has changed is that we have had and will have mediocre football for the last two years and possibly for the foreseeable future and so called long time supporters have lost their mojo. They would probably hate to admit it, but they are in love with the Premiership, just like any newbie supporter
Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:04 pm
ccfcsince62 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.
thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.
we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.
But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.
but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?
in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.
On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.
Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:34 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:ccfcsince62 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.
thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.
we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.
But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.
but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?
in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.
On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.
not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?
the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.
you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.
Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:20 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:ccfcsince62 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.
thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.
we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.
But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.
but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?
in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.
On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.
not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?
the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.
you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.
Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:41 pm
ccfcsince62 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:ccfcsince62 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:the main reason is on the whole we've had it good in the past 5 years and in the past year or so the football has been crap and it doesn't look like getting any better under slade and a reduced budget.
thats why many are not renewing. if we were still in the premiership in red, the same people would undoubtably still be renewing.
we've been in division 4 with awful football, so why have people decided now that the footballs not worth watching? the true fans will moan but always turn up. others come and go, and thats part of modern football. they'll be back when results improve.
But we are talking about a fan who has been through the bad times as well as the good ones. Something must be different as far as he is concerned.
but why throw in the towel now? could it not have something to do with the fact that we are in mid table mediocrity and under the current setup look unlikely to improve?
in terms of identity, we back in blue with a badge that does the club justice. if we were in the premier league next season i guarantee you the fan in question would be renewing.
On what basis can you "guarantee" that? The fact is , you can`t at all and it annoys me when people like yourself claim to have more knowledge of such things than the person making the statement.
As the "fan in question" I can assure you that our position in the league has no bearing whatsoever on my renewal decision. I have seen far more years of crap football at lower division level than at the higher levels , and have happily continued to attend throughout that period.
not convinced sorry. i think you know that were we challenging for automatic promotion and the football was attractive, you'd have no hesitation in renewing. as far as i can see you cite the incompetent board and the ever increasing debt as reasons for not renewing?
the current board in comparison to the one we had in the PL are much more receptive to the fans interests, and the debt is being kept under control through cutting the budget.
you're just bored with crap football. you've been spoilt in the past few years and are acting like a customer.
To be blunt I don't care whether you are convinced or not. I know my own mind thank you and I was not aware you had any supernatural powers as a mind reader to counter that view. So whatever you think you know, you actually don't know at all ,let alone be able to boast that you can "guarantee" it.
If I was bored with crap football I would have given up supporting the club decades ago. If you would state how many years you have been supporting the club , we can easily see what proportion of our respective years of support have been at the higher levels of the league pyramid and others on here can the judge for themselves which of us is more likely be be influenced by success on the field.
I cite the board for running up the historical recent debt levels without having the football knowledge or skills to justify or control. Further, they collectively seem to have forgotten or ignored where their legal duties of an insolvent business should be under UK legislationAnd it is basically still the same board now as last season with the exception of Ken Choo who appears a far better than Simon Lim but still brings little or no football knowledge to the board. These factors , in my professional view,have created the greatest financial risk to the survival of the football club that it has ever had.