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Re: " Simple question..? "

Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:24 am

castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


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I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Spot on once again. Makes me laugh at all the Whitts haters that got an agenda, they don't really see the real picture :lol:

Re: " Simple question..? "

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:29 am

bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are



So any accurate statistic which shows you are incorrect in your assertion that Whitts is ineffective is stupid. That statement alone goes straight to my point that people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

At this level Whitts is top class and trust me here if he had players ahead of him moving like the Bournemouth players were the other night we would ALL be seeing that the player we ALL think the world of is still there. I bet Eddie Howe would love to have him.

Unfortunately for Whitts he has Jones who in terms of movement is very very poor, he is also very poor at holding onto the ball. In Noone he has a player with better movement but he is our worst player at losing possession and both these players have the highest % of poor first touch in our squad. To put that stat in perspective Whitts who touches the ball more than any other player at the club, only has a poor first touch in less than a half of 1% of the times he receives the ball.

Whitts in terms of technical ability is without doubt our most gifted player who, in terms of defensive responsibility more than holds is own but in terms of keeping possession and offensive ability is second to none in our squad.

In my opinion of course.


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Re: " Simple question..? "

Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:36 am

bluestar wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Playing staff id also add Marshall, Manga, Turner, Gunnar, Morrison, Pilkington to the list, big earners and other than Manga I think we will cope without them.

They are top championship players if he gets rid of them you and slade deserve league 1 football

Very true. If you offload your best players there is surely only one outcome.

Re: " Simple question..? "

Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:33 pm

castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are



So any accurate statistic which shows you are incorrect in your assertion that Whitts is ineffective is stupid. That statement alone goes straight to my point that people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

At this level Whitts is top class and trust me here if he had players ahead of him moving like the Bournemouth players were the other night we would ALL be seeing that the player we ALL think the world of is still there. I bet Eddie Howe would love to have him.

Unfortunately for Whitts he has Jones who in terms of movement is very very poor, he is also very poor at holding onto the ball. In Noone he has a player with better movement but he is our worst player at losing possession and both these players have the highest % of poor first touch in our squad. To put that stat in perspective Whitts who touches the ball more than any other player at the club, only has a poor first touch in less than a half of 1% of the times he receives the ball.

Whitts in terms of technical ability is without doubt our most gifted player who, in terms of defensive responsibility more than holds is own but in terms of keeping possession and offensive ability is second to none in our squad.

In my opinion of course.


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Mate I respect your opinions as you respect mine
We all have different opinions
I've stated he's been great down the years but he's not effective as he used to
When you said unfortunately he's got jones infront of him
That comes to my point for getting rid of him for being so lazy
Yes people have stated he's top goal scorer but the number of goals in the highest shows why we ain't fighting for promotion
And what you said about noone . Totally agree with me hense why I'd like to go him go doesn't do it for me anymore
Never been the same since his injury . He's been read by every opposition that's why
And no doubting that he has great technical ability (whits) and going forward he can be great at times
But I don't think he's defending ability does him any justice central midfielders need to be Able to do both
That's why I think we need midfield and striking changes for next year to progress as a club

Re: " Simple question..? "

Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:09 pm

bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are



So any accurate statistic which shows you are incorrect in your assertion that Whitts is ineffective is stupid. That statement alone goes straight to my point that people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.

At this level Whitts is top class and trust me here if he had players ahead of him moving like the Bournemouth players were the other night we would ALL be seeing that the player we ALL think the world of is still there. I bet Eddie Howe would love to have him.

Unfortunately for Whitts he has Jones who in terms of movement is very very poor, he is also very poor at holding onto the ball. In Noone he has a player with better movement but he is our worst player at losing possession and both these players have the highest % of poor first touch in our squad. To put that stat in perspective Whitts who touches the ball more than any other player at the club, only has a poor first touch in less than a half of 1% of the times he receives the ball.

Whitts in terms of technical ability is without doubt our most gifted player who, in terms of defensive responsibility more than holds is own but in terms of keeping possession and offensive ability is second to none in our squad.

In my opinion of course.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Mate I respect your opinions as you respect mine
We all have different opinions
I've stated he's been great down the years but he's not effective as he used to
When you said unfortunately he's got jones infront of him
That comes to my point for getting rid of him for being so lazy
Yes people have stated he's top goal scorer but the number of goals in the highest shows why we ain't fighting for promotion
And what you said about noone . Totally agree with me hense why I'd like to go him go doesn't do it for me anymore
Never been the same since his injury . He's been read by every opposition that's why
And no doubting that he has great technical ability (whits) and going forward he can be great at times
But I don't think he's defending ability does him any justice central midfielders need to be Able to do both
That's why I think we need midfield and striking changes for next year to progress as a club


Of course we need changes and in particular the midfield because I think that a good holding midfield player, good wide players who can keep the ball and pass it would be a major improvement on where we have been this season. Up front Ravell, Doyle, Macheda, Mason with the right supply from the midfield would do better than we have seen this season.

An ex city manager, Jimmy Andrews, once said to me put a good player with a poor player and the good player will make the poor player better, but put a good player with another good player and they make each other better.

That's the challenge for the manager, whoever he is, get good players in, around and ahead of Whittingham just like DJ did.


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Re: " Simple question..? "

Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:17 pm

bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are



Yes where is this guy getting these stats from. They make absolutely no sense. Shipping Whittingham out next season would be a great opportunity for a fresh start!

Re: " Simple question..? "

Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:35 am

City Slicker wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are



Yes where is this guy getting these stats from. They make absolutely no sense. Shipping Whittingham out next season would be a great opportunity for a fresh start!

Here you go fella:
http://www.squawka.com/players/peter-wh ... ance-score#cardiff-city-(current)#football-league-championship#10#season-2014/2015#127#all-matches#1-38#by-match

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/stats/player-stats/
check out the drop down menu at the top for his assists etc etc

also have a look at this for the top performers for Cardiff City
http://www.squawka.com/teams/cardiff-ci ... ance-score#football-league-championship#season-2014/2015#127#all-matches#1-38#by-match

If you do some research you will find the facts :thumbup:

Re: " Simple question..? "

Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:43 am

tenerife_blu wrote:
City Slicker wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
castleblue wrote:
bluebird12345 wrote:
RFMH wrote:Whitts isn't effective. Yet who got the assist last night :laughing5:


He takes all the corners mun
If someone else took the corners they'd get the assists
He's not effective in the position on the pitch is my point !
Yeah great takes the corners etc but I want more than that from him ! :thumbright:


Whitts also takes possession of the ball more often than any other player, makes more passes than any other player (Currently 1680 - 500 more than any other player), has the highest passing accuracy %- 82.4%, more than double the number of key passes than any other player, more assists than any other play with 8 of which only 3 have come from corners. 2 from freekicks and 3 from open play.

It's funny how people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I thank whittingham for all he's done for us in the past years been great for us
I said I'd like to see him go as he ain't as effective to the team as he used to and he also doesn't fit our 442 system I don't think
He doesn't do the dirty side of a centre midfielder can't tackle can't get around quick as he used to he's quite lazy as well I find
Yes I do also see the good things he does as for assists from corners but other players could take them and get assists
Got a great passing range etc but just not doing it for me anymore
Just my opinion


It may well surprise you to know that the player you think can't tackle actually has the 2nd highest successful tackling % of any player this season with 79%. Only Brayford with 85% success has been better than Whitts but now that he has gone that leaves Whitts as our best current tackler.

As regards doing the dirty side ofthe centre midfield role Whitts has proved time and again that he is prepared to "Take one for the team", as he did for his first booking against Wolves.

In terms of blocks or interception Whitts is the the top 3 of any of those categorys which again is a measure of his effectiveness in our team and his willingness and ability to do "The dirty side of the role".

As I say people only see what they want to see when it comes to Whitts.


:bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Where you getting these stupid stats from ?
Most the time he doesn't even bother and strolls around
Yeah took one for the team got 2 yellows for being caught out of position he didn't take one for team he missed the player for the one tackle and took one down as he cant tackle
You can say all you want mate I've been to all the home cames bar from one down the illness
Go away most games
I do see a lot of him
Like I said he's not effective as he used to be
He doesn't fit our system
I feel like just like some of the others he doesn't put a shift in and it frustrates me
I want a fresh new midfield next year because this one we have now is were our problems are



Yes where is this guy getting these stats from. They make absolutely no sense. Shipping Whittingham out next season would be a great opportunity for a fresh start!

Here you go fella:
http://www.squawka.com/players/peter-wh ... ance-score#cardiff-city-(current)#football-league-championship#10#season-2014/2015#127#all-matches#1-38#by-match

http://www.cardiffcityfc.co.uk/stats/player-stats/
check out the drop down menu at the top for his assists etc etc

also have a look at this for the top performers for Cardiff City
http://www.squawka.com/teams/cardiff-ci ... ance-score#football-league-championship#season-2014/2015#127#all-matches#1-38#by-match

If you do some research you will find the facts :thumbup:



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