Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:11 pm
Colourblind wrote:kenbarlow wrote:Colourblind wrote:I'm backing UKIP. At least they'll find me a pub where I can have a fag and a pint. And maybe stop more pubs closing down.
Good to see you're looking at whats really important.
Farage is a total bullshitter who will take this country back to the dark ages
It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:29 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:31 pm
BlueGog wrote:Farage probably has the best PR people who wake him look as a man of the people, which is absolute rubbish of course.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:56 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:16 pm
wez1927 wrote:you do not get the same level of care in Spain hence why people take out holiday insurancepiledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:A block wrote:wez1927 wrote:what the policy that nhs will be free to all British citizen s but foreigners will have to have insurance just like when we go abroad saving the nhs millions a year ?piledriver64 wrote:A block wrote:He has more experience and more friends in business than Cameron and milliband.
He's a con. Will benefit the business people and the divide between rich and the poor will increase.
He is the worst candidate, with no real policies apart from immigration.
Correct ! He's an ex-banker who is so against the EU he insists on taking their very generous MEP salary off them![]()
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He is clearly a good speaker because people believe him but actually he's nothing but a posh public school boy making out that he is a man of the people because he has a fag and a pint in the pub now and again![]()
In reality he has even less in common with people like you and me than the Torys or Labour.
Read the UKIP policies and you'll find they are all about looking after the top 20% even more so than Cameron and his cronies
We actually get free healthcare anywhere within the eu under European law.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS, selling it to his business friends, making them millions while we will then have to pay for treatments.
Where does it say that ? Or you listening to the lefty media
It's fact.
As long as you have a card (which you can apply for on-line and free) you are entitled to the same level of care throughout the EU as you would receive in your home country. It's a blue card with your Nat Ins No and details on (I think it used to be called an ERNIC ?). From memory I think they have to be renewed every 4 years ?
So nothing new
Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:19 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:46 pm
piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:you do not get the same level of care in Spain hence why people take out holiday insurancepiledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:A block wrote:wez1927 wrote:what the policy that nhs will be free to all British citizen s but foreigners will have to have insurance just like when we go abroad saving the nhs millions a year ?piledriver64 wrote:A block wrote:He has more experience and more friends in business than Cameron and milliband.
He's a con. Will benefit the business people and the divide between rich and the poor will increase.
He is the worst candidate, with no real policies apart from immigration.
Correct ! He's an ex-banker who is so against the EU he insists on taking their very generous MEP salary off them![]()
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He is clearly a good speaker because people believe him but actually he's nothing but a posh public school boy making out that he is a man of the people because he has a fag and a pint in the pub now and again![]()
In reality he has even less in common with people like you and me than the Torys or Labour.
Read the UKIP policies and you'll find they are all about looking after the top 20% even more so than Cameron and his cronies
We actually get free healthcare anywhere within the eu under European law.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS, selling it to his business friends, making them millions while we will then have to pay for treatments.
Where does it say that ? Or you listening to the lefty media
It's fact.
As long as you have a card (which you can apply for on-line and free) you are entitled to the same level of care throughout the EU as you would receive in your home country. It's a blue card with your Nat Ins No and details on (I think it used to be called an ERNIC ?). From memory I think they have to be renewed every 4 years ?
So nothing new
I'm not an expert but I believe it does allow you to have free at the point of access treatment just like the NHS. We take out holiday insurance to cover us for private As well as public hospitals and also for any additional return transfers by plane, etc.
I'm happy to be corrected but that's my understanding.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:51 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:07 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:25 pm
piledriver64 wrote:I think you'll find EU residents outside of UK are charged by NHS too.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:27 pm
blueminati wrote:Anyone who thinks UKIP will deliver real change are deluding themselves. All the parties will protect their own interests regardless of who they are. All voting does is give the illusion of choice when in reality the UK is far from democratic. Voting for parties in the UK is like selecting which way you wish to die. The end result is the same miserable fate but the method of getting there is different. None of them care about anyone but themselves and the only way to enact real change is through a revolution. If you vote you're basically giving the green light to the continuation of lies, deceit and rhetoric from these self serving politicians. You are part of the problem, not the solution. The saddest thing is that they've actually convinced so many people that voting matters and you get a real say.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:35 pm
the eu will be no more soon ,the euro zone has failed Spain ,Greece ,Portugal and others will with draw soon ,if we don't act now we will be in trouble in the futureSwampCCFC wrote:blueminati wrote:Anyone who thinks UKIP will deliver real change are deluding themselves. All the parties will protect their own interests regardless of who they are. All voting does is give the illusion of choice when in reality the UK is far from democratic. Voting for parties in the UK is like selecting which way you wish to die. The end result is the same miserable fate but the method of getting there is different. None of them care about anyone but themselves and the only way to enact real change is through a revolution. If you vote you're basically giving the green light to the continuation of lies, deceit and rhetoric from these self serving politicians. You are part of the problem, not the solution. The saddest thing is that they've actually convinced so many people that voting matters and you get a real say.
withdrawing from the EU certainly constitutes 'real change'. the other 3 mainstream parties are very similar but UKIP are different.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:02 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:withdrawing from the EU certainly constitutes 'real change'. the other 3 mainstream parties are very similar but UKIP are different.
wez1927 wrote:the eu will be no more soon ,the euro zone has failed Spain ,Greece ,Portugal and others will with draw soon ,if we don't act now we will be in trouble in the future
Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:26 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:43 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:51 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:01 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:20 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:39 pm
wez1927 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:you do not get the same level of care in Spain hence why people take out holiday insurancepiledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:A block wrote:wez1927 wrote:what the policy that nhs will be free to all British citizen s but foreigners will have to have insurance just like when we go abroad saving the nhs millions a year ?piledriver64 wrote:A block wrote:He has more experience and more friends in business than Cameron and milliband.
He's a con. Will benefit the business people and the divide between rich and the poor will increase.
He is the worst candidate, with no real policies apart from immigration.
Correct ! He's an ex-banker who is so against the EU he insists on taking their very generous MEP salary off them![]()
![]()
He is clearly a good speaker because people believe him but actually he's nothing but a posh public school boy making out that he is a man of the people because he has a fag and a pint in the pub now and again![]()
In reality he has even less in common with people like you and me than the Torys or Labour.
Read the UKIP policies and you'll find they are all about looking after the top 20% even more so than Cameron and his cronies
We actually get free healthcare anywhere within the eu under European law.
Farage wants to privatise the NHS, selling it to his business friends, making them millions while we will then have to pay for treatments.
Where does it say that ? Or you listening to the lefty media
It's fact.
As long as you have a card (which you can apply for on-line and free) you are entitled to the same level of care throughout the EU as you would receive in your home country. It's a blue card with your Nat Ins No and details on (I think it used to be called an ERNIC ?). From memory I think they have to be renewed every 4 years ?
So nothing new
I'm not an expert but I believe it does allow you to have free at the point of access treatment just like the NHS. We take out holiday insurance to cover us for private As well as public hospitals and also for any additional return transfers by plane, etc.
I'm happy to be corrected but that's my understanding.
At a reduced cost in Spain only Britain it is totally free ,I know people that have been away gone to hospital for different types of breaks and been charged a fortune cause they have no insurance , in UK it would 've for free
Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:45 pm
wez1927 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:I think you'll find EU residents outside of UK are charged by NHS too.
nhs doesn't charge anyone why do you think so many people want to come here ?
Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:46 pm
llan bluebird wrote:China is the only country to offset the yanks....
The European Superstate will never happen.
We pull out the EU fails. The Germans with their centre left but pro business and profit loses its biggest Ally. They will be left with southern Euro lazy states. They want reforms as much as we do, many middle income Germans want out as well... Why should they fund the project.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:14 pm
blueminati wrote:llan bluebird wrote:China is the only country to offset the yanks....
The European Superstate will never happen.
We pull out the EU fails. The Germans with their centre left but pro business and profit loses its biggest Ally. They will be left with southern Euro lazy states. They want reforms as much as we do, many middle income Germans want out as well... Why should they fund the project.
Germany will want to fund it because economic control of a country means they are at your mercy. If the UK pulls out the EU does not fail at all.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:21 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I work with quite a few Germans who are genuinely Europeans but are getting pisssed off the the Euro experiment and want drastic change.
Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:49 pm
Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:25 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:ronnieconradsflatcap wrote:Anyone see this programme last night meet-the-ukippers, some very eccentric UKIP characters .
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... e-ukippers
It's a strange one because the Jews are financially backing UKIP, yet the British press/media are slating them at every opportunity to protect Cameron. I like Farage and think he will look after the British public better than anyone else, although the fact the Jews are backing them and UKIP are accepting their backing is a concern.
Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:48 am
Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:51 am
Matt D wrote:I can see straight through the guy and his party of ex Conservative cronies. All they are is a bunch of Eurosceptic Tories
Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:52 am
Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:43 pm
It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.
Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:44 pm
they should have smoking bars and non smoking barsredbird wrote:It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.
Absolutely agree with you at my local there are often more outside the pub than inside, even in this weather. In the summer there's always more outside even non smokers as it's a far better craic than inside.