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Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:11 pm

Colourblind wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
Colourblind wrote:I'm backing UKIP. At least they'll find me a pub where I can have a fag and a pint. And maybe stop more pubs closing down.


Good to see you're looking at whats really important.

Farage is a total bullshitter who will take this country back to the dark ages

It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.

Say how it is pal :lol:

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:29 pm

Lot's of the points you're making about Farage were probably said of Hitler when he was elected as a very popular charismatic leader, but we all know what happened then...
Farage is no different to Cameron, Clegg or Milliband,all very wealthy career politicians. Farage probably has the best PR people who wake him look as a man of the people, which is absolute rubbish of course.

But there is a realistic other option this time, it's highly likely that the SNP are going to mass over 50 MP and added to the Greens and Plaid in Wales can realistically make a group of over 60 MP and in the likely-hood of another hung parliament are going to hold the balance of power.
Go on, vote to make a difference, vote for Wales, vote Plaid. :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:31 pm

BlueGog wrote:Farage probably has the best PR people who wake him look as a man of the people, which is absolute rubbish of course.


Please if you know somebody who is the so called " Man of the people " get them in power as that wouldnt be rubbish either :laughing6:

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:56 pm

Hate

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:16 pm

wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
A block wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
A block wrote:He has more experience and more friends in business than Cameron and milliband.

He's a con. Will benefit the business people and the divide between rich and the poor will increase.

He is the worst candidate, with no real policies apart from immigration.


Correct ! He's an ex-banker who is so against the EU he insists on taking their very generous MEP salary off them :shock: :lol:

He is clearly a good speaker because people believe him but actually he's nothing but a posh public school boy making out that he is a man of the people because he has a fag and a pint in the pub now and again :roll:

In reality he has even less in common with people like you and me than the Torys or Labour.

Read the UKIP policies and you'll find they are all about looking after the top 20% even more so than Cameron and his cronies :evil:
what the policy that nhs will be free to all British citizen s but foreigners will have to have insurance just like when we go abroad saving the nhs millions a year ?


We actually get free healthcare anywhere within the eu under European law.

Farage wants to privatise the NHS, selling it to his business friends, making them millions while we will then have to pay for treatments.

Where does it say that ? Or you listening to the lefty media


It's fact.

As long as you have a card (which you can apply for on-line and free) you are entitled to the same level of care throughout the EU as you would receive in your home country. It's a blue card with your Nat Ins No and details on (I think it used to be called an ERNIC ?). From memory I think they have to be renewed every 4 years ?

So nothing new
you do not get the same level of care in Spain hence why people take out holiday insurance


I'm not an expert but I believe it does allow you to have free at the point of access treatment just like the NHS. We take out holiday insurance to cover us for private As well as public hospitals and also for any additional return transfers by plane, etc.

I'm happy to be corrected but that's my understanding.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:19 pm

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcare ... tries.aspx

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:46 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
A block wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
A block wrote:He has more experience and more friends in business than Cameron and milliband.

He's a con. Will benefit the business people and the divide between rich and the poor will increase.

He is the worst candidate, with no real policies apart from immigration.


Correct ! He's an ex-banker who is so against the EU he insists on taking their very generous MEP salary off them :shock: :lol:

He is clearly a good speaker because people believe him but actually he's nothing but a posh public school boy making out that he is a man of the people because he has a fag and a pint in the pub now and again :roll:

In reality he has even less in common with people like you and me than the Torys or Labour.

Read the UKIP policies and you'll find they are all about looking after the top 20% even more so than Cameron and his cronies :evil:
what the policy that nhs will be free to all British citizen s but foreigners will have to have insurance just like when we go abroad saving the nhs millions a year ?


We actually get free healthcare anywhere within the eu under European law.

Farage wants to privatise the NHS, selling it to his business friends, making them millions while we will then have to pay for treatments.

Where does it say that ? Or you listening to the lefty media


It's fact.

As long as you have a card (which you can apply for on-line and free) you are entitled to the same level of care throughout the EU as you would receive in your home country. It's a blue card with your Nat Ins No and details on (I think it used to be called an ERNIC ?). From memory I think they have to be renewed every 4 years ?

So nothing new
you do not get the same level of care in Spain hence why people take out holiday insurance


I'm not an expert but I believe it does allow you to have free at the point of access treatment just like the NHS. We take out holiday insurance to cover us for private As well as public hospitals and also for any additional return transfers by plane, etc.

I'm happy to be corrected but that's my understanding.

At a reduced cost in Spain only Britain it is totally free ,I know people that have been away gone to hospital for different types of breaks and been charged a fortune cause they have no insurance , in UK it would 've for free

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:51 pm

I think you'll find EU residents outside of UK are charged by NHS too.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:07 pm

Anyone who thinks UKIP will deliver real change are deluding themselves. All the parties will protect their own interests regardless of who they are. All voting does is give the illusion of choice when in reality the UK is far from democratic. Voting for parties in the UK is like selecting which way you wish to die. The end result is the same miserable fate but the method of getting there is different. None of them care about anyone but themselves and the only way to enact real change is through a revolution. If you vote you're basically giving the green light to the continuation of lies, deceit and rhetoric from these self serving politicians. You are part of the problem, not the solution. The saddest thing is that they've actually convinced so many people that voting matters and you get a real say.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:25 pm

piledriver64 wrote:I think you'll find EU residents outside of UK are charged by NHS too.

nhs doesn't charge anyone why do you think so many people want to come here ?

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:27 pm

blueminati wrote:Anyone who thinks UKIP will deliver real change are deluding themselves. All the parties will protect their own interests regardless of who they are. All voting does is give the illusion of choice when in reality the UK is far from democratic. Voting for parties in the UK is like selecting which way you wish to die. The end result is the same miserable fate but the method of getting there is different. None of them care about anyone but themselves and the only way to enact real change is through a revolution. If you vote you're basically giving the green light to the continuation of lies, deceit and rhetoric from these self serving politicians. You are part of the problem, not the solution. The saddest thing is that they've actually convinced so many people that voting matters and you get a real say.


withdrawing from the EU certainly constitutes 'real change'. the other 3 mainstream parties are very similar but UKIP are different.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:35 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:
blueminati wrote:Anyone who thinks UKIP will deliver real change are deluding themselves. All the parties will protect their own interests regardless of who they are. All voting does is give the illusion of choice when in reality the UK is far from democratic. Voting for parties in the UK is like selecting which way you wish to die. The end result is the same miserable fate but the method of getting there is different. None of them care about anyone but themselves and the only way to enact real change is through a revolution. If you vote you're basically giving the green light to the continuation of lies, deceit and rhetoric from these self serving politicians. You are part of the problem, not the solution. The saddest thing is that they've actually convinced so many people that voting matters and you get a real say.


withdrawing from the EU certainly constitutes 'real change'. the other 3 mainstream parties are very similar but UKIP are different.
the eu will be no more soon ,the euro zone has failed Spain ,Greece ,Portugal and others will with draw soon ,if we don't act now we will be in trouble in the future

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:02 pm

SwampCCFC wrote:withdrawing from the EU certainly constitutes 'real change'. the other 3 mainstream parties are very similar but UKIP are different.

Withdrawing from the EU is idiotic. People like Farage hate the thought of the EU because it's not favourable to his mates in the City. If you think its going to have any major impact on your life then you're deluded. Immigrants will still be let in on VISA's and permits and economic competition will be ever present. If anything, withdrawal from the EU will just lead to Brits having less opportunities abroad on a working/middle class level. The working/middle class won't benefit at all from the UK withdrawing from the EU no matter what Farage tells you. He's just telling you what you want to hear (populism) so his party gains votes.

wez1927 wrote:the eu will be no more soon ,the euro zone has failed Spain ,Greece ,Portugal and others will with draw soon ,if we don't act now we will be in trouble in the future

Greece are pro-EU just anti-austerity. The EU will not be ending any time soon. Delusions. If anything there will be more of a push towards a European superstate than anything else. If the UK withdraws from the EU then the rest of Europe will continue on down that path anyway.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:26 pm

Cant wait for a united Europe me. It would provide ballast against the USA

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:43 pm

If any party can stop these scumbags coming over, they will have my vote.

On tonight at 9 PM

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the- ... are-coming


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:51 pm

China is the only country to offset the yanks....

The European Superstate will never happen.

We pull out the EU fails. The Germans with their centre left but pro business and profit loses its biggest Ally. They will be left with southern Euro lazy states. They want reforms as much as we do, many middle income Germans want out as well... Why should they fund the project.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:01 pm

It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.[/quote]

Jesus, there really should be an intelligence test to qualify people to vote.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:20 pm

things have 2 change in our country,there seems 2 be terrorists all over our country,laws have 2 be changed so we can disrupt these religious nutters.i believe farage would do this,we can only arrest these nut cases if they r about 2 do something,its crazy,they should lock all known members of these islam lunatic groups and the 1's who r brainwashing them.We got 2 crack down hard on these nutters,its about keeping british people save.We r dealing with nutters who believe allah wants them 2 kill innocent people or cut peoples heads off,they r capable of doing anything.We r 2 soft,we got 2 smash these groups.I believe things will only get worse.I think farage would make Britain safer,he cant do any worse than the tories and labour.im voting ukip that's 4 sure

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:39 pm

wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
A block wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
A block wrote:He has more experience and more friends in business than Cameron and milliband.

He's a con. Will benefit the business people and the divide between rich and the poor will increase.

He is the worst candidate, with no real policies apart from immigration.


Correct ! He's an ex-banker who is so against the EU he insists on taking their very generous MEP salary off them :shock: :lol:

He is clearly a good speaker because people believe him but actually he's nothing but a posh public school boy making out that he is a man of the people because he has a fag and a pint in the pub now and again :roll:

In reality he has even less in common with people like you and me than the Torys or Labour.

Read the UKIP policies and you'll find they are all about looking after the top 20% even more so than Cameron and his cronies :evil:
what the policy that nhs will be free to all British citizen s but foreigners will have to have insurance just like when we go abroad saving the nhs millions a year ?


We actually get free healthcare anywhere within the eu under European law.

Farage wants to privatise the NHS, selling it to his business friends, making them millions while we will then have to pay for treatments.

Where does it say that ? Or you listening to the lefty media


It's fact.

As long as you have a card (which you can apply for on-line and free) you are entitled to the same level of care throughout the EU as you would receive in your home country. It's a blue card with your Nat Ins No and details on (I think it used to be called an ERNIC ?). From memory I think they have to be renewed every 4 years ?

So nothing new
you do not get the same level of care in Spain hence why people take out holiday insurance


I'm not an expert but I believe it does allow you to have free at the point of access treatment just like the NHS. We take out holiday insurance to cover us for private As well as public hospitals and also for any additional return transfers by plane, etc.

I'm happy to be corrected but that's my understanding.

At a reduced cost in Spain only Britain it is totally free ,I know people that have been away gone to hospital for different types of breaks and been charged a fortune cause they have no insurance , in UK it would 've for free


Not sure you're right on this:

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSse ... u-eea.aspx

But don't let facts get in the way of the UKIP bullshit !!

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:45 pm

wez1927 wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:I think you'll find EU residents outside of UK are charged by NHS too.

nhs doesn't charge anyone why do you think so many people want to come here ?


http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/AboutNHSse ... u-eea.aspx

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:46 pm

llan bluebird wrote:China is the only country to offset the yanks....

The European Superstate will never happen.

We pull out the EU fails. The Germans with their centre left but pro business and profit loses its biggest Ally. They will be left with southern Euro lazy states. They want reforms as much as we do, many middle income Germans want out as well... Why should they fund the project.

Germany will want to fund it because economic control of a country means they are at your mercy. If the UK pulls out the EU does not fail at all.

:lol:

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:14 pm

blueminati wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:China is the only country to offset the yanks....

The European Superstate will never happen.

We pull out the EU fails. The Germans with their centre left but pro business and profit loses its biggest Ally. They will be left with southern Euro lazy states. They want reforms as much as we do, many middle income Germans want out as well... Why should they fund the project.

Germany will want to fund it because economic control of a country means they are at your mercy. If the UK pulls out the EU does not fail at all.

:lol:



Not quite sure the german people will agree with you. They 20 years after reunification can go it alone none of the others can.

We add balance. We are much more right wing free market capitalists than the rest of Europes major counties. We go, the balance swings uncomfortably left of Germany natural position.

I work with quite a few Germans who are genuinely Europeans but are getting pisssed off the the Euro experiment and want drastic change.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:21 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I work with quite a few Germans who are genuinely Europeans but are getting pisssed off the the Euro experiment and want drastic change.

The EU fat cats couldn't care less what the people want. They're going ahead with their plans regardless.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:49 pm

Love NIGEL

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:25 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
ronnieconradsflatcap wrote:Anyone see this programme last night meet-the-ukippers, some very eccentric UKIP characters .

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... e-ukippers


It's a strange one because the Jews are financially backing UKIP, yet the British press/media are slating them at every opportunity to protect Cameron. I like Farage and think he will look after the British public better than anyone else, although the fact the Jews are backing them and UKIP are accepting their backing is a concern.

I and most people in our village say they are voting UKIP.And this is an ex mining area.Shit on by new Labour.Shit on by the Condems.Nowhere else to turn.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:48 am

I can see straight through the guy and his party of ex Conservative cronies. All they are is a bunch of Eurosceptic Tories - quite apart from conning everyone into thinking that immigrants are the cause of all our problems, I don't like their stance on the NHS or renewable energy...

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:51 am

Matt D wrote:I can see straight through the guy and his party of ex Conservative cronies. All they are is a bunch of Eurosceptic Tories

This isn't true.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:52 am

I won't waste my time voting. They are all a bunch of kunts in my book

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:43 pm

It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.


Absolutely agree with you at my local there are often more outside the pub than inside, even in this weather. In the summer there's always more outside even non smokers as it's a far better craic than inside.

Re: Nigel Farage - Love him or hate him?

Wed Feb 25, 2015 2:44 pm

redbird wrote:
It's important to me. Whether Labour or Conservatives are elected has never made any noticeable difference to my life so I might as well plump for something that I want to do. which is to have a smoke and a drink without freezing my bollocks off.


Absolutely agree with you at my local there are often more outside the pub than inside, even in this weather. In the summer there's always more outside even non smokers as it's a far better craic than inside.
they should have smoking bars and non smoking bars