' AMERICAN BILLIONAIRE WANTS A CHAMPIONSHIP CLUB '

Allan, I believe our debt is now under a £100million.

I'm glad that your not using the 150 million figure you were saying only a few months ago ,it will be very interesting what our financial position is in the latest set of accounts and of course next year's

That's good then Annis! maybe things going in right direction for us to be sold?

Allan, I will work it out, it could even be half that Now

All the better Annis despite crap that's gone on we are in better place financially ready to be sold! But maybe after the cuts tan will have another go at premier but this time with proper structure in place? Stranger things have happened especially now minumum payment will be 100m in premier?

The only prob is Allan, Premier League is now a fairy tale to us and far away than ever now.

Allan, I believe our debt is now under a £100million.

I'm glad that your not using the 150 million figure you were saying only a few months ago ,it will be very interesting what our financial position is in the latest set of accounts and of course next year's

That's good then Annis! maybe things going in right direction for us to be sold?

Allan, I will work it out, it could even be half that Now

All the better Annis despite crap that's gone on we are in better place financially ready to be sold! But maybe after the cuts tan will have another go at premier but this time with proper structure in place? Stranger things have happened especially now minumum payment will be 100m in premier?

The only prob is Allan, Premier League is now a fairy tale to us and far away than ever now.

annis strange things happen in football slade will be gone at end season im sure! maybe there is a plan after all tan needed a fall guy to implement his cost cutting excersise, pulis would never have been that man as stated before? so never know tan might just try again with 100m carrot who knows?

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

What part of 'we are already going to hit the financial brick wall' is difficult to understand? We're going to end up in administration eventually anyway. Tan is going take out what he can and will either sell up or just leave. Nobody is stupid enough to buy a club in our situation so that leaves us left to pick up the pieces.

This is what is happening: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

What part of 'we are already going to hit the financial brick wall' is difficult to understand? We're going to end up in administration eventually anyway. Tan is going take out what he can and will either sell up or just leave. Nobody is stupid enough to buy a club in our situation so that leaves us left to pick up the pieces.

This is what is happening: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Where did I say I WANT us relegated? I never. I will speak to you like a child if you struggle to read and take uneducated implications from text in a manner a KS2 pupil would. My statement was made on the premise that I believe we WILL go down a division or two, not that I expressively WANT that to happen. I'd rather us stay up and cut cloth but it's unrealistic and unfeasible.

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Agreed James, American owners are looking at what they can take out of clubs. Give me a Russian sugar daddy any day!

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Agreed James, American owners are looking at what they can take out of clubs. Give me a Russian sugar daddy any day!

We need David Cameron in charge. He is a fan of the blue and hates the red.

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Agreed James, American owners are looking at what they can take out of clubs. Give me a Russian sugar daddy any day!

We need David Cameron in charge. He is a fan of the blue and hates the red.

In all seriousness though, would everyone prefer to be a self-sufficient club that never gets to the top of the pyramid, or find an Ambramovich figure who invests not for profiteering but success for his team, hmmm

Personally, I would go for self-sufficient, reasonable pricing for fans etc

Ambramovich doesnt invest for the success of the team. He invests so that once the team is successful he can stroke his own ego and die with a legacy. He will always be remembered as the guy that delivered Chelsea the Premier League, the Champions League and numerous honours. Somehow, I think thats a more appealing legacy than Russian billionaire and politician with links to the soon to be notorious Vladimir Putin.

Dont delude yourself for once second that the majority of these owners are in it for the fans. They're in it for themselves, just like any other businessman.

Hi lads leeds look ripe for another takeover if cellino is shafted any more by the FA I recon if someone came offered him 60 odd mill they could have a debt free club that has a great fan base and atm a team getting their act together my opinion is stay with the mad Italian cellino is a maverick the leeds fans love him he's got us where we are .good luck with your yank lads.

Hi lads leeds look ripe for another takeover if cellino is shafted any more by the FA I recon if someone came offered him 60 odd mill they could have a debt free club that has a great fan base and atm a team getting their act together my opinion is stay with the mad Italian cellino is a maverick the leeds fans love him he's got us where we are .good luck with your yank lads.

Scum. Dirty Leeds.

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

What part of 'we are already going to hit the financial brick wall' is difficult to understand? We're going to end up in administration eventually anyway. Tan is going take out what he can and will either sell up or just leave. Nobody is stupid enough to buy a club in our situation so that leaves us left to pick up the pieces.

This is what is happening: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Don't argue with blueminati he is a financial expert with a masters degree awarded from the respected governing body of Wikipedia

People are forgetting that for probably 80 million you get a brand new stadium which can be expanded ,training ground and guaranteed 40 miliion in parachute payment s we are a good prospect compared to other championship clubs

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Don't argue with blueminati he is a financial expert with a masters degree awarded from the respected governing body of Wikipedia

Reported for selling me short. I have a PhD. Do not undermine me.

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Where did I say I WANT us relegated? I never. I will speak to you like a child if you struggle to read and take uneducated implications from text in a manner a KS2 pupil would. My statement was made on the premise that I believe we WILL go down a division or two, not that I expressively WANT that to happen. I'd rather us stay up and cut cloth but it's unrealistic and unfeasible.

f**k off you prick

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

What part of 'we are already going to hit the financial brick wall' is difficult to understand? We're going to end up in administration eventually anyway. Tan is going take out what he can and will either sell up or just leave. Nobody is stupid enough to buy a club in our situation so that leaves us left to pick up the pieces.

This is what is happening: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Don't argue with blueminati he is a financial expert with a masters degree awarded from the respected governing body of Wikipedia

he reminds me of Roathy

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Where did I say I WANT us relegated? I never. I will speak to you like a child if you struggle to read and take uneducated implications from text in a manner a KS2 pupil would. My statement was made on the premise that I believe we WILL go down a division or two, not that I expressively WANT that to happen. I'd rather us stay up and cut cloth but it's unrealistic and unfeasible.

f**k off you prick

Language

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Where did I say I WANT us relegated? I never. I will speak to you like a child if you struggle to read and take uneducated implications from text in a manner a KS2 pupil would. My statement was made on the premise that I believe we WILL go down a division or two, not that I expressively WANT that to happen. I'd rather us stay up and cut cloth but it's unrealistic and unfeasible.

f**k off you prick

Language

on my ignore list now you annoy me to much

on my ignore list now you annoy me to much

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

What part of 'we are already going to hit the financial brick wall' is difficult to understand? We're going to end up in administration eventually anyway. Tan is going take out what he can and will either sell up or just leave. Nobody is stupid enough to buy a club in our situation so that leaves us left to pick up the pieces.

This is what is happening: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Bluemaniti Here is where you said I WANT US TO GO DOWN pity you can't remember what you said about 2minutes ago
Why don't you stop talking to people like there stupid and your a genius which you obviously are not

Bluemaniti Here is where you said I WANT US TO GO DOWN pity you can't remember what you said about 2minutes ago
Why don't you stop talking to people like there stupid and your a genius which you obviously are not

Why don't you learn to read the entire sentence rather than take part of it out of context? Learn English, moron.

Well what other way do you mean I want us to go down
You can not be serious if you expect any one to read that statement in any other way
No need to start name calling like children do

I think people forget what a marketable commodity our club has become.

For a start, there has been a lot of free publicity in recent years around the world, some of it negative generated by Tan, but I think people underestimate the power of that season in the Premier League in the USA - its followed a lot more closely than I realised until I went to visit last year.

Also, we have a ready made stadium with a suitable capacity for the Premier League, as well as what are already more than adequate training facilities. Look at the problems small clubs with small stadia have had in recent years. Our West Wales neighbours would love to own the same facilities we have instead of renting a pitch off the council.

The level of debt is irrelevant - it is how you service that debt that counts. Manchester United have much more debt than us, but they haven't done too badly despite a dip in form in the last 2 seasons.

The question would be, how much does Mr Tan want and over what period of time? It is only when we have to start paying him back that the club needs to worry. Be careful what you wish for, people.

If tan just upped and left that would mean saying here you are i will give you the £130m I've lent you? Mmmmm very generous man!! (i think not)

Bluemaniti Here is where you said I WANT US TO GO DOWN pity you can't remember what you said about 2minutes ago
Why don't you stop talking to people like there stupid and your a genius which you obviously are not

Why don't you learn to read the entire sentence rather than take part of it out of context? Learn English, moron.

Doesn't matter what rest of statement says fact is you said (quote) i want us to go down! in other words i want us to be relegated what else can you mean? We havnt all got phd cdm or whatever but we do know what (I WANT US TO GO DOWN) means do you?

No. I don't want another big owner. When will we learn? I want us to go down a division or two, cut cloth accordingly and become a club that is financially sound with a fans stake in the club. The sooner we get rid of the mad men, hit the financial brick wall that is inevitably going to happen, and start rebuilding the better. The club is the fans, not no Malaysians or Americans and the sooner we reclaim what is rightfully ours the better.

Why would you want us to get relegated we would be in more of a financial mess if we went down

What part of 'we are already going to hit the financial brick wall' is difficult to understand? We're going to end up in administration eventually anyway. Tan is going take out what he can and will either sell up or just leave. Nobody is stupid enough to buy a club in our situation so that leaves us left to pick up the pieces.

This is what is happening: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset_stripping

Don't speak to me like I'm a child You call yourself a Cardiff fan and want us relegated , you seem to think we will go down then everything will turn out fine, it doesn't work like that if we go down the club will be more of a mess now

Don't argue with blueminati he is a financial expert with a masters degree awarded from the respected governing body of Wikipedia

he reminds me of Roathy

At least it lets me off the hook.

Seriously though, a serious attitude problem. He's a teacher by the general look of things. He uses KS2 as a derogatory term so probably a secondary or college level teacher. PhD's tend to be science/maths/ICT qualified. How am I doing teach?

Seriously though, a serious attitude problem. He's a teacher by the general look of things. He uses KS2 as a derogatory term so probably a secondary or college level teacher. PhD's tend to be science/maths/ICT qualified. How am I doing teach?

1) Im not a teacher
2) Im a CompSci grad