' WHAT THE MEDIA WOULD NOT PRINT '

Let's hope Tan wins, about time it came out publically.

How can he win he's been paying it up to the date stated, more to the point why start paying it then stop

As I have said Tan does not understand our culture regarding the law. He might be a billionaire but he is not above it.

Another thing to consider is Tan holds above 51% of the shares. Does that not make him liable for the debts?

Whatever comes of it a British Court will demand to know who is behind Langston and written confirmation of that.

That's all VT wants it was never proved in court before, the judge just airing his opinion that SH was heavily involved.


It's not about the money with VT lol. When does SH have his life president thing taken off him?

So if thats all Vincent Tan wants,why has Tan already paid Langston £15million?

You would have to ask him that lol.

I would like to know where £15m was spent on players/Ninian park if SH took out the loans on the Club?

He was taking over 1m a year in just consultancy fees during his time with us?

At least the bogs had a lick of paint every season

I'm sure Tan can answer those questions as well,as Tan has already wasted £1million on private detectives etc and found nothing wrong,so then paid Langston £16million.

My honest opinion, this is personal between Tan/Sam.

I wish you and others would stop pushing this line that Tan has spent a £million on 'private detectives' to investigate the Langston agreement.

The reality is that Tan hired forensic accountants to review a host of historic accounts and financial dealings. The appointment of the Australian QC, Stephen Owen-Conway highlighted some serious concerns about the level of audit trail and book keeping at the club with regards to a multitude of financial dealings and significant work was undertaken including the use of auditors and accountancy staff to plough through thousands of pages of financial data and papers to ensure everything was clearly understood and referenced, so that debts and other financial liabilities could be properly addressed. To suggest that the sole purpose of all this expense was to avoid payment of the langston debt, is a huge exaggeration.

You are clearly biased when it comes to Sam vs Tan and it's clear where your allegiances lie. For others who sit someweher in the middle, a little balance is required to judge things properly.

For all we know something may have subsequently come to light following the original agreement being signed which has cast doubts on the validity of the remaining debt, or the original amount agreed. Alternatively, the recepient/s of the repayments may have become clearer which in itself could cause concern or potentially legal complications. For example if there is suddenly a suggestion that payments are being made to individuals in states with UN sanctions applicable (usually put in place to try to stop funding for terrorism or corrupt states), Tan would have an obligation to cease payments or seek greater transparancy.

I'm no Tan fan, because in my opinion he has made some huge errors of judgement that have taken us backwards rather than forwards, irrespective of whether he saved us from financial meltdown originally. However, I think most City fans would prefer if Langston and it's shadowy dealings and representatives to be outed for what they really are.

Ultimately, if all langston's dealings were perfectly above board and they were not screwing the club for every penny they could, why are they so determined to retain the shroud of secrecy.

The whole langston affair has stunk from day 1, and Sam is central to everything.

You can say all you want,the facts are Tan has already handed over about £16million after saying he would not pay a penny. Tan surely would not of handed all that money over if there was any wrong doing? Plus twice Tan hired forensic accountants
regarding Langston and they found nothing.

Tan makes mistakes,your having a laugh,he has been a total disaster from start to finish.

As to Sam,100% made plenty of mistakes and he admits it,Tan does not.

I am going on facts and the facts are clearly there

Why the belittling smilies and misconstrued comments. Why don't you just comment on the points I'm actually making. I don't disagree that Tan's stewardship has been a disaster and I stated above that I thought he had made a host of bad calls.

All I am saying is that there may be a genuinely legitimate reason why Tan has ceased payments. Yes, he agreed a payment settlement and in normal circumstances he should repay it all without question. However, information may have subsequently come to light that could invalidate any agreement, or the end recipient of the money may now be known which has given rise to potential legal issues.

If your dealing in facts then you should agree that the one consistent black cloud that has hung over Cardiff City for many years is the debt to Langston/Sam and the fact they have refused to identify themselves confirms to me they must have something to hide.

Ultimately, if it comes to light that Sam was the driving force behind CCFC taking out unsustainable loans and debt that it could not afford with high interest rates that ultimately ended up back in Sams pocket, in addition to his exorbitant consultancy fees will you still be happy to act as his mouthpiece and support his involvement in this sorry affair?

Why the continual Sarcasm from you? I'm no ones mouth piece,just my own.

If Sam was found to do any wrong,I will be the first to speak out against him
Yes Sams my friend But I speak my own mind, if you had read Shattered Dreams you will see for yourself

Having read my last comment again I can't see a hint of sarcasm, just statements and a question. You on the other hand have a habit of trying to paint me as a pro Tan supporter which I'm most certainly am not. I am however aware of certain facts that are contrary to things you have stated in relation to some of the financial affairs at CCFC, which is why I try to put forward a more balanced perspective than you.

Another snipe at tan f*cking hell give it a rest ffs

Another snipe at tan f*cking hell give it a rest ffs

I think it is time for some bad jokes, just to loosen things up as we approach the weekend...

Vincent Tan has a son.
What did he call him?

Sun!

I wonder who Langston is ?

what makes this all so confusing, is that sam our life time president? is it? is suing our director?

Is there any chance at all that this has something to do with all the recent rumours about consortiums.
Sam was strongly linked to the speculation? Tan flexes his muscles and says 'right, you're having it'!

Is there any chance at all that this has something to do with all the recent rumours about consortiums.
Sam was strongly linked to the speculation? Tan flexes his muscles and says 'right, you're having it'!

I think most won't argue on that score.

So its ready for Court,but I promise you watch Tan pay up yet again,plus interest.

So its ready for Court,but I promise you watch Tan pay up yet again,plus interest.

Annis I think that will be a good thing, let the court decide it and then it done.

Annis are you interested who Langston are? We know who they are supposed to be.

So its ready for Court,but I promise you watch Tan pay up yet again,plus interest.

Annis I think that will be a good thing, let the court decide it and then it done.

Annis are you interested who Langston are? We know who they are supposed to be.

If tan paid forensic accountants money to try and find Langston he's an idiot.
All he needs to do is get hold of rudgewick holdings accounts for the time that Sam owned Cardiff and it's there in black and white where the 24 million came from. The one set even shows a figure exactly the same as earnies transfer fee from forest being brought in.
Rudgewick owned Wimbledon and one years accounts show the 24 million in the accounts for that sale and the following year that citi bank was paid off the 24 million has gone from the accounts.
Coincidence ?

So its ready for Court,but I promise you watch Tan pay up yet again,plus interest.

Annis I think that will be a good thing, let the court decide it and then it done.

Annis are you interested who Langston are? We know who they are supposed to be.

Luke, I would love it to be all out in the open once and for all

Ive always stated who I feel it is and described it in detail in Shattered Dreams, 2 pages long

So its ready for Court,but I promise you watch Tan pay up yet again,plus interest.

Annis I think that will be a good thing, let the court decide it and then it done.

Annis are you interested who Langston are? We know who they are supposed to be.

If tan paid forensic accountants money to try and find Langston he's an idiot.
All he needs to do is get hold of rudgewick holdings accounts for the time that Sam owned Cardiff and it's there in black and white where the 24 million came from. The one set even shows a figure exactly the same as earnies transfer fee from forest being brought in.
Rudgewick owned Wimbledon and one years accounts show the 24 million in the accounts for that sale and the following year that citi bank was paid off the 24 million has gone from the accounts.
Coincidence ?

Steve, As you know Tan has paid a £million to forensic accountants,then paid Langston £16million
Once again its all started up,I personally want it out in the open and finished with.

So its ready for Court,but I promise you watch Tan pay up yet again,plus interest.

Annis I think that will be a good thing, let the court decide it and then it done.

Annis are you interested who Langston are? We know who they are supposed to be.

If tan paid forensic accountants money to try and find Langston he's an idiot.
All he needs to do is get hold of rudgewick holdings accounts for the time that Sam owned Cardiff and it's there in black and white where the 24 million came from. The one set even shows a figure exactly the same as earnies transfer fee from forest being brought in.
Rudgewick owned Wimbledon and one years accounts show the 24 million in the accounts for that sale and the following year that citi bank was paid off the 24 million has gone from the accounts.
Coincidence ?

Steve, As you know Tan has paid a £million to forensic accountants,then paid Langston £16million
Once again its all started up,I personally want it out in the open and finished with.

I believe a third party from way back has stirred the pot here annis but as you say it needs to be done and dusted as the club needs to be rebuilt from the manager up and decent football people brought in.
For me the club needs to be sold to make a fresh start but unfortunately as we are now seeing with forest the only people out there willing to invest are Middle East investors who want to use the club as its own subutteo set.