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Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:38 pm
It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
Same goes with players when they get sold.
People look past what they've done for the club and only look at the negatives.
You cannot deny he put the team together when we were in meltdown with 9 odd players in the entire squad and got people like gunnarsson for great prices. Then led the team to promotion to the premier league for the first time in our history.
People will also side with tan more now after the change.
The texts are a none issue for me and I will always like mackay. As we are seeing now, this league is a result business. Fancy football in the championship rarely, if ever happens. You get wins and that is it. That is what he did.
Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:46 pm
Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
Same goes with players when they get sold.
People look past what they've done for the club and only look at the negatives.
You cannot deny he put the team together when we were in meltdown with 9 odd players in the entire squad and got people like gunnarsson for great prices. Then led the team to promotion to the premier league for the first time in our history.
People will also side with tan more now after the change.
The texts are a none issue for me and I will always like mackay. As we are seeing now, this league is a result business. Fancy football in the championship rarely, if ever happens. You get wins and that is it. That is what he did.
was it only 6 months of poor football then?
Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:51 pm
Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
Same goes with players when they get sold.
People look past what they've done for the club and only look at the negatives.
You cannot deny he put the team together when we were in meltdown with 9 odd players in the entire squad and got people like gunnarsson for great prices. Then led the team to promotion to the premier league for the first time in our history.
People will also side with tan more now after the change.
The texts are a none issue for me and I will always like mackay. As we are seeing now, this league is a result business. Fancy football in the championship rarely, if ever happens. You get wins and that is it. That is what he did.
Great post and you are right to acknowledge all the good/great things he achieved, I for one will never forget that.
However, my concern has always been around how the texts were discovered, it's alledged that they were found when investigators were looking into some dodgy dealings at the club that involved both Moody & Malky, the allegation was that strong that warrants were obtained for the searches that led to the findings of the texts, then you had ex players coming out with allegations on the way they were treated by Malky and this along with the text scandal in my opinion over shadowed the original investigation (or at least took the attention away from it)
So for what it's worth I will never forget the achievements he had with the team on the pitch however, I cannot forgive his actions off the pitch and the subsequent damage that it caused the club there after.
Wed Jan 14, 2015 2:52 pm
Paul, Did you care we were playing result based football in our promotion year? I didnt.
Then we went into the premier league saying we'd stick by mackay as we wanted stability. Then he bought corn dog and we got slammed in a few games. A lot wanted his head which you can understand.
The football under solksjaer was worse than under mackay. Literally clueless. No players had confidence and all we did was hoof it forward.
And now slade has been in charge for some mind numbingly, suicidally poor games.
I wont forget the promotion year and how he saved us when we were all over the place. The Charlton game wont be beaten for a long time.
If Mackay had spent well and we were still in the premier league, nothing about texts would had surfaced.I am confident of that.It was just personal and tan not being able to accept things always dont go to plan. Which I now think he understands.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 12:37 am
Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...
Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:57 am
Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

6mnths poor football? For nearly 2yrs it was Effective but mainly boring 99% of time!
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:32 am
pembroke allan wrote:Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

6mnths poor football? For nearly 2yrs it was Effective but mainly boring 99% of time!

It is worse now.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:33 am
Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

Racist, PRIVATE, texts.
That is the difference.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:46 am
Depressed Blue wrote:Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

Racist, PRIVATE, texts.
That is the difference.
Exactly.
Mountains out of molehills.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 10:51 am
Jesus this circle again.
Malky did a lot of good for the club. He navagated through a relatively easy Carling Cup path (one Prem team that ended up getting relegated, second leg at home in semi final). Earned us respect by a solid showing against a rubbish Liverpool team. Got us 6th on a wafer thin squad. Then won the Championship, arguably the clubs biggest accomplishment, albeit, with the money he spent after lapping up the rebrand, he should have won it easier.
He then fúcked up the most important transfer window in the clubs history, Ince, Capoue, Wanyama were never coming and he pissed away far too much time on them. Over paid for Caulker, Medel and obviously Cornelius. Bought Odemwingie when he didn't know how to play him, bought Brayford for no reason.
Players from the Championship team failed to step up also, Kim, Whitts, Gunnar, Turner. Then his style of football continued to get worse he ballsed it up in a big way. Spent more than Palace and Hull, bought lemons.
Also he's a racist fûck who damaged the clubs reputation and he loved the rebrand.
Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:58 pm
Depressed Blue wrote:Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

Racist, PRIVATE, texts.
That is the difference.
I wouldnt class a work phone and computer as private and I dont think that makes it any better in any case. As a manager of a lot of people he shouldnt be saying these things.
In any case he deserved the sack on football ability alone, wasted millions upon millions and we couldnt have been sinking any quicker.
Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:38 pm
Depressed Blue wrote:Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

Racist, PRIVATE, texts.
That is the difference.
Malky was in a well paid
Managerial position, regardless of whether the texts/calls were in private!
And just for reference, use of the company phone whilst sending these texts is
not private.
Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:46 pm
Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:Cardiffcitymad wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:It is funny people try to discredit several years of Mackay after 6 months of poor football and a few texts.
RACIST texts...

Racist, PRIVATE, texts.
That is the difference.
Malky was in a well paid
Managerial position, regardless of whether the texts/calls were in private!
And just for reference, use of the company phone whilst sending these texts is
not private.

Totally agree.
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