Will we now song Vincent Tan's blue army?

I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?

What do mean by 'get him to make a push towards debt for equity'?

He's said he will, and shouldn't need an ego-boosting chant in order to make it official.

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true.

This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

so you either hate him or are sucking his cock? What a ridiculous statement and entry to this debate.

Vincent Tans a bluebird would be better.

I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?

What do mean by 'get him to make a push towards debt for equity'?

He's said he will, and shouldn't need an ego-boosting chant in order to make it official.

He had absolutely no requirement to do debt to equity now he has given blue back in my opinion.

Can't believe I've just read this. One word FICKLE.

GSO - one mistake? Are you serious. Can u remember the repeated insults and the way he spoke about us and our traditions. The pure arrogance of him and continued disregard for our wishes. Or have you forgotten after one clever business move? It took him a while but he finally realised that he couldn't win, fan power prevails. I'm not going to jeer him and yes I've moved on what's done is done, but idolise him and sing his name? That's just embarrassing.

GSO - one mistake? Are you serious. Can u remember the repeated insults and the way he spoke about us and our traditions. The pure arrogance of him and continued disregard for our wishes. Or have you forgotten after one clever business move? It took him a while but he finally realised that he couldn't win, fan power prevails. I'm not going to jeer him and yes I've moved on what's done is done, but idolise him and sing his name? That's just embarrassing.

Idolise him, no. But we have to move forward as one and that includes letting him know that we can move on

I think we definitely should and it might, just might appeal to his ego and get him to make a push towards debt for equity.

Thoughts?

Absolutely no chance from me. Some of us might be happy to worship Tan as a hero now, but I will personally not forgive Tan so easily for the torture he has put me through. People like Dalman and Choo are the proper heroes for getting that egotistical dictator to eventually see sense and undo the damage he caused to our club for the past 2 and a half seasons.

Well you could look at it a different way. If you truly believe he took us for a ride, why not reverse the process and suck up to him in order to take as much of his fortune as you can to make our team and club better.

Can't you even see it from that angle.

If anyone hasn't learnt a lesson from all of this, its posters that still think they can gain anything for Cardiff City by continuing with the negativity towards Tan.

But I'm not going to be negative to Tan. I'm not going to boo him or sing anti Tan songs now we're back in blue. All I said in my post was I will still refuse to cheer for him. The OP's suggestion of singing a song to glorify Tan wrecking our club for the past 2 and a half seasons and then correcting his mistake is absolutely ridiculous imo. It certainly doesn't make him a hero in my eyes anyway.

He saved up from being wound up in court
He give huge transfer budgets
Got rid of Cardiff Blues
Paid off all our creditors
Expanded the stadium

The one very bad decision he has made had just been reversed......

He has hardly wrecked the club!

I'm fully behind us fans tickling Tan's ego if it means continued investment in the club, generous billionaires are hard to come by!

GSO - one mistake? Are you serious. Can u remember the repeated insults and the way he spoke about us and our traditions. The pure arrogance of him and continued disregard for our wishes. Or have you forgotten after one clever business move? It took him a while but he finally realised that he couldn't win, fan power prevails. I'm not going to jeer him and yes I've moved on what's done is done, but idolise him and sing his name? That's just embarrassing.

You have to view all his reticence against the backdrop of mass insults. Think back to some of the things that were suggested and even carried out; songs, name calling, writing to newspapers here and in his own country, writing to the clubs sponsors, boycotts, refusing merchandise and generally being nasty to him in every way possible.

I'll ask the question again.......

What would you have done. I bet you wouldn't have carried on investing in the club and team like he did.

Looking back now my thoughts are thank god he didn't give up on us like most owners would have done. We'd be blue now and sunk.

GSO - one mistake? Are you serious. Can u remember the repeated insults and the way he spoke about us and our traditions. The pure arrogance of him and continued disregard for our wishes. Or have you forgotten after one clever business move? It took him a while but he finally realised that he couldn't win, fan power prevails. I'm not going to jeer him and yes I've moved on what's done is done, but idolise him and sing his name? That's just embarrassing.

You have to view all his reticence against the backdrop of mass insults. Think back to some of the things that were suggested and even carried out; songs, name calling, writing to newspapers here and in his own country, writing to the clubs sponsors, boycotts, refusing merchandise and generally being nasty to him in every way possible.

I'll ask the question again.......

What would you have done. I bet you wouldn't have carried on investing in the club and team like he did.

Looking back now my thoughts are thank god he didn't give up on us like most owners would have done. We'd be blue now and sunk.

This.

GSO - one mistake? Are you serious. Can u remember the repeated insults and the way he spoke about us and our traditions. The pure arrogance of him and continued disregard for our wishes. Or have you forgotten after one clever business move? It took him a while but he finally realised that he couldn't win, fan power prevails. I'm not going to jeer him and yes I've moved on what's done is done, but idolise him and sing his name? That's just embarrassing.

You have to view all his reticence against the backdrop of mass insults. Think back to some of the things that were suggested and even carried out; songs, name calling, writing to newspapers here and in his own country, writing to the clubs sponsors, boycotts, refusing merchandise and generally being nasty to him in every way possible.

I'll ask the question again.......

What would you have done. I bet you wouldn't have carried on investing in the club and team like he did.

Looking back now my thoughts are thank god he didn't give up on us like most owners would have done. We'd be blue now and sunk.

This.

Well I wouldn't have meddled with a clubs colours and crest in the first place so it's irrelevant but yes I agree with you in a sense, if he walked around the pitch I'd stand and clap him to say thankyou. But sing his name? No I'm sorry that will never happen not for me anyway I'm not that fickle. Each to their own tho mate

Why the hell should we show gratitude to him for changing us to blue. We were blue anyway - he was the Muppet that fucked it up in the first place. He hasn't apologised for the initial rebrand yet, which he did at a whim because he could, so there more chance of platting fog than me singing the guys name.

And I still got a awful feeling we will be install for more issues going forward. He is a vengeful man, and he can use the story about his mother as much as he wants - he will be piased off about the return to blue. He just did it coz he had no choice due to lack of ST renewals.

I really hope I'm wrong, but unfortunately I'm still fearing the worst.

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true.

This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

so you either hate him or are sucking his cock? What a ridiculous statement and entry to this debate.

I don't hate him nor love him friend . Pointing out that he has done nothing to deserve the fawning sycophancy that the likes of you suggest

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true.

This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

so you either hate him or are sucking his cock? What a ridiculous statement and entry to this debate.

I don't hate him nor love him friend . Pointing out that he has done nothing to deserve the fawning sycophancy that the likes of you suggest

So singing a song to say "you're one of us now. We're moving forward" is sycophantic? Letting him know we are willing to move forward as one is "communal sucking of his cock"?

I DO have pride in myself. My pride stems from the fact that I know I can forgive and move on, instead of acting like a petulant child as some are on here.

Was it Tan spouting red or dead? or did Tan simply say "it's red or I put my money elsewhere"?

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true.

This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

so you either hate him or are sucking his cock? What a ridiculous statement and entry to this debate.

I don't hate him nor love him friend . Pointing out that he has done nothing to deserve the fawning sycophancy that the likes of you suggest

So singing a song to say "you're one of us now. We're moving forward" is sycophantic? Letting him know we are willing to move forward as one is "communal sucking of his cock"?

I DO have pride in myself. My pride stems from the fact that I know I can forgive and move on, instead of acting like a petulant child as some are on here.

Was it Tan spouting red or dead? or did Tan simply say "it's red or I put my money elsewhere"?

Do you really feel that he is 'one of us'? Seriously?
He's a businessman who decided to 'invest' in our club ( though there has been NO investment, in the same way SH didn't actually 'invest' anything over and above his initial 2.5 million input). To gain respect you must first give respect. Tan showed nothing but disrespect to our support, though at least he's reversed his earlier stupid decision to rebrand us!

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true.

This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

so you either hate him or are sucking his cock? What a ridiculous statement and entry to this debate.

I don't hate him nor love him friend . Pointing out that he has done nothing to deserve the fawning sycophancy that the likes of you suggest

So singing a song to say "you're one of us now. We're moving forward" is sycophantic? Letting him know we are willing to move forward as one is "communal sucking of his cock"?

I DO have pride in myself. My pride stems from the fact that I know I can forgive and move on, instead of acting like a petulant child as some are on here.

Was it Tan spouting red or dead? or did Tan simply say "it's red or I put my money elsewhere"?

Do you really feel that he is 'one of us'? Seriously?
He's a businessman who decided to 'invest' in our club ( though there has been NO investment, in the same way SH didn't actually 'invest' anything over and above his initial 2.5 million input). To gain respect you must first give respect. Tan showed nothing but disrespect to our support, though at least he's reversed his earlier stupid decision to rebrand us!

He is the owner. Like it or hate it, that's a fact. He IS a businessman, of course he is, nobody is denying that.

You say "To gain respect you must first give respect" surely that works both ways??!

OF COURSE WE SHOULD AND SHOW THE FOOTBALLING WORLD THAT WE HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOUR AND CAN HAVE A LAUGH.
But too many on here are small minded and petty. They want to go on and on about things that have happened and little battles won and lost. Sad but true.

This This This.

those who are feeling the need to still keep hating on him just make us look childish and petulant.

He made a mistake. who hasn't. the story is that he was lied to by his underlings and I don't think it's up for us to say "that's definitely not true" unless we have proof of that.

either way. yes, he made a mistake, he put it right. It is the grown up thing to do to show your respect and if not thanking him form "making us blue" (as it was his change in the first place) then thanking him for realising his mistake and rectifying it...

he has enough money to make us suffer if he really wanted to. He did the grown up thing and sucked up his ego and pride and went back on what he said.

Time for us to suck up our ego and pride as well, and try and move on.

Haven't those among us who frantically took part in the communal sucking of his cock when the 'red or dead' thing came out learned your lessons? Ffs have a bit of pride in yourself!

so you either hate him or are sucking his cock? What a ridiculous statement and entry to this debate.

I don't hate him nor love him friend . Pointing out that he has done nothing to deserve the fawning sycophancy that the likes of you suggest

So singing a song to say "you're one of us now. We're moving forward" is sycophantic? Letting him know we are willing to move forward as one is "communal sucking of his cock"?

I DO have pride in myself. My pride stems from the fact that I know I can forgive and move on, instead of acting like a petulant child as some are on here.

Was it Tan spouting red or dead? or did Tan simply say "it's red or I put my money elsewhere"?

Do you really feel that he is 'one of us'? Seriously?
He's a businessman who decided to 'invest' in our club ( though there has been NO investment, in the same way SH didn't actually 'invest' anything over and above his initial 2.5 million input). To gain respect you must first give respect. Tan showed nothing but disrespect to our support, though at least he's reversed his earlier stupid decision to rebrand us!

He is the owner. Like it or hate it, that's a fact. He IS a businessman, of course he is, nobody is denying that.

You say "To gain respect you must first give respect" surely that works both ways??!

You don't think City fans have him enough respect when he arrived? Words fail me!

.......gave him enough respect....

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

You are evidently driven by a pro Tan agenda. If memory serves me, he received all sorts of negativity when he announced the rebrand, one or two shithouses thought they'd issue racist threats, which was disgusting and rightly investigated by the police. But your pathetic attempt to tar everyone who hated the rebrand with the same brush as that is disposable.

When tan first came to cardiff he was met with Malaysian flags and overwhelming friendliness, in case you forgot

........dispicable......

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

You are evidently driven by a pro Tan agenda. If memory serves me, he received all sorts of negativity when he announced the rebrand, one or two shithouses thought they'd issue racist threats, which was disgusting and rightly investigated by the police. But your pathetic attempt to tar everyone who hated the rebrand with the same brush as that is disposable.

When tan first came to cardiff he was met with Malaysian flags and overwhelming friendliness, in case you forgot

When did I tar everybody?

It wasn't just one or two though... there were a number, on here, over social media, everywhere. Not everybody (nd I never said everybody, so I don't know where you go that from)

I do remember that we welcomed him with malaysian flags, but as is so often the case the few spoiled things for the lot of us.

If everybody had acted with a calm head instead of those who decided to go down the wrong path, he may have seen sense earlier.

I'm not saying Tan is blameless. He shouldn't have changed our colours, and he should have listened and seen what it meant to us... but to say I'm pro Tan just because I would prefer for our club to heal itself and move on seems a little absurd to me. Just because I'm not saying how much of a wanker I think he is or that I want him out doesn't mean I'm taking part on ay communal cock sucking. I can just see that what our club needs right now is to heal itself, instead of keeping up this split between fans and owner.

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

You are evidently driven by a pro Tan agenda. If memory serves me, he received all sorts of negativity when he announced the rebrand, one or two shithouses thought they'd issue racist threats, which was disgusting and rightly investigated by the police. But your pathetic attempt to tar everyone who hated the rebrand with the same brush as that is disposable.

When tan first came to cardiff he was met with Malaysian flags and overwhelming friendliness, in case you forgot

When did I tar everybody?

It wasn't just one or two though... there were a number, on here, over social media, everywhere. Not everybody (nd I never said everybody, so I don't know where you go that from)

I do remember that we welcomed him with malaysian flags, but as is so often the case the few spoiled things for the lot of us.

If everybody had acted with a calm head instead of those who decided to go down the wrong path, he may have seen sense earlier.

I'm not saying Tan is blameless. He shouldn't have changed our colours, and he should have listened and seen what it meant to us... but to say I'm pro Tan just because I would prefer for our club to heal itself and move on seems a little absurd to me. Just because I'm not saying how much of a wanker I think he is or that I want him out doesn't mean I'm taking part on ay communal cock sucking. I can just see that what our club needs right now is to heal itself, instead of keeping up this split between fans and owner.

No cock sucking? You and maccydee have already got dirty knees mate. Now whipe yourselfs up and get a grip for gods sake!

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

You are evidently driven by a pro Tan agenda. If memory serves me, he received all sorts of negativity when he announced the rebrand, one or two shithouses thought they'd issue racist threats, which was disgusting and rightly investigated by the police. But your pathetic attempt to tar everyone who hated the rebrand with the same brush as that is disposable.

When tan first came to cardiff he was met with Malaysian flags and overwhelming friendliness, in case you forgot

When did I tar everybody?

It wasn't just one or two though... there were a number, on here, over social media, everywhere. Not everybody (nd I never said everybody, so I don't know where you go that from)

I do remember that we welcomed him with malaysian flags, but as is so often the case the few spoiled things for the lot of us.

If everybody had acted with a calm head instead of those who decided to go down the wrong path, he may have seen sense earlier.

I'm not saying Tan is blameless. He shouldn't have changed our colours, and he should have listened and seen what it meant to us... but to say I'm pro Tan just because I would prefer for our club to heal itself and move on seems a little absurd to me. Just because I'm not saying how much of a wanker I think he is or that I want him out doesn't mean I'm taking part on ay communal cock sucking. I can just see that what our club needs right now is to heal itself, instead of keeping up this split between fans and owner.

No cock sucking? You and maccydee have already got dirty knees mate. Now whipe yourselfs up and get a grip for gods sake!

Get a grip on what? All I've been saying is that we need to move forward as one instead of continuing to try and ostracize the owner.

I'm not saying we need to be singing "Tan is a legend" or anything similar, but we need to show him (and the rest of the bloody world) that we're not children and that we can suck it up and move on.

No. Firstly he shouldn't have turned us red to start with. Secondly he should have changed us back sooner and thirdly What's the point when he doesn't turn up anyway?

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

You are evidently driven by a pro Tan agenda. If memory serves me, he received all sorts of negativity when he announced the rebrand, one or two shithouses thought they'd issue racist threats, which was disgusting and rightly investigated by the police. But your pathetic attempt to tar everyone who hated the rebrand with the same brush as that is disposable.

When tan first came to cardiff he was met with Malaysian flags and overwhelming friendliness, in case you forgot

When did I tar everybody?

It wasn't just one or two though... there were a number, on here, over social media, everywhere. Not everybody (nd I never said everybody, so I don't know where you go that from)

I do remember that we welcomed him with malaysian flags, but as is so often the case the few spoiled things for the lot of us.

If everybody had acted with a calm head instead of those who decided to go down the wrong path, he may have seen sense earlier.

I'm not saying Tan is blameless. He shouldn't have changed our colours, and he should have listened and seen what it meant to us... but to say I'm pro Tan just because I would prefer for our club to heal itself and move on seems a little absurd to me. Just because I'm not saying how much of a wanker I think he is or that I want him out doesn't mean I'm taking part on ay communal cock sucking. I can just see that what our club needs right now is to heal itself, instead of keeping up this split between fans and owner.

I'm not getting into the 'he said this, she said that' bollocks but the fact is that the disrespect was started by tan when he basically forced through his rebrand by stealth, veiled threats to pull out and suggestions spread by one or two sycophants that the club would fold unless we agreed to take it up the rear and bite the pillow. Up until that point he had been given a right royal Welsh welcome. Notwithstanding what a couple of knobheads posted about his race following the announcement, it was followed with understandable ire by many city fans. Tan started disrespecting us and now he wants to be adored . he's getting no adoration from me friend

WE LOVE YOU WE LOVE YOU WE LOVE YOU
AND NOW WE'RE BLUE WE'LL FOLLOW, WE'LL FOLLOW, WE'LL FOLLOW
CAUSE WE'RE PROUD TO BE THE BLUEBIRDS, THE BLUEBIRDS, THE BLUEBIRDS,
AND THATS THE WAY WE LIKE IT, WE LIKE IT, WE LIKE IT....
BLUEUEEEUEUEUEUEUEUEUEUUEEEEE!!
BLUEEEUEUEUEUEEUEUEUEUEUEUEUE!!

PAT HEAD LIKE A NUTTER.

Bonus points if you manage to look as nuts as Dai Hunt.

I'm almost certain threats to firebomb his house and rape his family members can't be classified as respect.

When he came here. he invested. It is fairly obvious that without that investment we would never have made the PL (Which a LOT of fans [not all] were happy to trade for our colours)

If you can find anything online about how vincent tan sent death threats out to fans then please do let me know.

You are evidently driven by a pro Tan agenda. If memory serves me, he received all sorts of negativity when he announced the rebrand, one or two shithouses thought they'd issue racist threats, which was disgusting and rightly investigated by the police. But your pathetic attempt to tar everyone who hated the rebrand with the same brush as that is disposable.

When tan first came to cardiff he was met with Malaysian flags and overwhelming friendliness, in case you forgot

When did I tar everybody?

It wasn't just one or two though... there were a number, on here, over social media, everywhere. Not everybody (nd I never said everybody, so I don't know where you go that from)

I do remember that we welcomed him with malaysian flags, but as is so often the case the few spoiled things for the lot of us.

If everybody had acted with a calm head instead of those who decided to go down the wrong path, he may have seen sense earlier.

I'm not saying Tan is blameless. He shouldn't have changed our colours, and he should have listened and seen what it meant to us... but to say I'm pro Tan just because I would prefer for our club to heal itself and move on seems a little absurd to me. Just because I'm not saying how much of a wanker I think he is or that I want him out doesn't mean I'm taking part on ay communal cock sucking. I can just see that what our club needs right now is to heal itself, instead of keeping up this split between fans and owner.

No cock sucking? You and maccydee have already got dirty knees mate. Now whipe yourselfs up and get a grip for gods sake!

Get a grip on what? All I've been saying is that we need to move forward as one instead of continuing to try and ostracize the owner.

I'm not saying we need to be singing "Tan is a legend" or anything similar, but we need to show him (and the rest of the bloody world) that we're not children and that we can suck it up and move on.

We've moved on maturely already. He's had the positive press that he so desired. Dalman stressed how much 'respect and admiration' we had for tan during the meeting and he made that very public. That's called coming to terms with an arrangement. It doesn't require us to look like a bunch of fickle morons calling for his head one week and singing his name the next. It won't happen anyway mate, you try get one going youl just get a few strange looks