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Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:32 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?



We all hate the jacks but your talking crap here let's not sound bitter!

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:43 pm

SCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Always amuses me when some of you still maintain that our good decisions are made purely on luck. 'They law of the averages' or the law of having a good scouting department?

You don't get 3 promotions, 3 mid table Premier League finishes, a League Cup and in to the knock out stages of the Europa League on the law of averages, there's logic behind the decisions we make.

Players are brought in how suit our style of play, it makes sense.

If we get say £30 million for Bony, I'm convinced we'll spend it wisely, because we always have done. It says it all when the biggest money flop we've had is Leroy Lita for £1.8 million and even he scored more goals in the Premier League then Cornelius & Kenwyne Jones did put together for you.



As much as it pains me to say so, but your right SCFC.

Even Vincent Tan said on interview that he wanted a value for money Mitchu type striker,,,and Malky & Co duly obliged with Cornelius. That was the beginning of the end for Malky.

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:29 pm

nubbsy wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?



We all hate the jacks but your talking crap here let's not sound bitter!


What so they didn't do well with bony? :roll:

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:41 pm

SCFC wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Always amuses me when some of you still maintain that our good decisions are made purely on luck. 'They law of the averages' or the law of having a good scouting department?

You don't get 3 promotions, 3 mid table Premier League finishes, a League Cup and in to the knock out stages of the Europa League on the law of averages, there's logic behind the decisions we make.

Players are brought in how suit our style of play, it makes sense.

If we get say £30 million for Bony, I'm convinced we'll spend it wisely, because we always have done. It says it all when the biggest money flop we've had is Leroy Lita for £1.8 million and even he scored more goals in the Premier League then Cornelius & Kenwyne Jones did put together for you.


Calm down, I only made a comment about some of your crap strikers (e.g lita, ngog, schecter) and you have a right hissy fit. Chill, it's only a game :lol:

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:01 am

Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:43 am

xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:53 am

pembroke allan wrote:
xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o


not a shame at all, shows we've done some brilliant business in finding/producing players that top teams want.

at the end of the day we're only swansea city, we have been massively overachieving for years despite not being able to afford to pay the megabucks to players. bony has no ties to swansea (dont think we have a big ivory coast community), and the chance to compete for major trophies for one of the worlds best teams on a shitload of money. why wouldnt he go?!

if big teams weren't in for our players/managers it would mean that they arent performing well enough, which would mean that we would probably be the sort of team who risked banktruptcy trying to go up, got bailed out by a nutter who almost ruined the club then went down in our first season in the prem ;) so you just have to take these things as a sign of how well the club is doing and trust that new players will carry on the good times. gutted to see him go and hope hes a success at city

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:11 am

kenbarlow wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o


not a shame at all, shows we've done some brilliant business in finding/producing players that top teams want.

at the end of the day we're only swansea city, we have been massively overachieving for years despite not being able to afford to pay the megabucks to players. bony has no ties to swansea (dont think we have a big ivory coast community), and the chance to compete for major trophies for one of the worlds best teams on a shitload of money. why wouldnt he go?!

if big teams weren't in for our players/managers it would mean that they arent performing well enough, which would mean that we would probably be the sort of team who risked banktruptcy trying to go up, got bailed out by a nutter who almost ruined the club then went down in our first season in the prem ;) so you just have to take these things as a sign of how well the club is doing and trust that new players will carry on the good times. gutted to see him go and hope hes a success at city



As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 12:34 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o


not a shame at all, shows we've done some brilliant business in finding/producing players that top teams want.

at the end of the day we're only swansea city, we have been massively overachieving for years despite not being able to afford to pay the megabucks to players. bony has no ties to swansea (dont think we have a big ivory coast community), and the chance to compete for major trophies for one of the worlds best teams on a shitload of money. why wouldnt he go?!

if big teams weren't in for our players/managers it would mean that they arent performing well enough, which would mean that we would probably be the sort of team who risked banktruptcy trying to go up, got bailed out by a nutter who almost ruined the club then went down in our first season in the prem ;) so you just have to take these things as a sign of how well the club is doing and trust that new players will carry on the good times. gutted to see him go and hope hes a success at city



As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:


This is probably true Allan. After all, look what happened when Malky bought Cornelius. There was a consequential demotion and loss of all the top players with a few exceptions. This could happen to Swansea, although the longer they are up there, the income makes stability more likely. They have a squad now of some depth. Every club outside the top 4 is a selling club up to a point. Look at Spurs, Southhampton etc.

I'm sure the £25m plus will be spent carefully rather than blown on a single player.

I wish we were in that position to be honest.

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:58 pm

Woodville Willie wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o


not a shame at all, shows we've done some brilliant business in finding/producing players that top teams want.

at the end of the day we're only swansea city, we have been massively overachieving for years despite not being able to afford to pay the megabucks to players. bony has no ties to swansea (dont think we have a big ivory coast community), and the chance to compete for major trophies for one of the worlds best teams on a shitload of money. why wouldnt he go?!

if big teams weren't in for our players/managers it would mean that they arent performing well enough, which would mean that we would probably be the sort of team who risked banktruptcy trying to go up, got bailed out by a nutter who almost ruined the club then went down in our first season in the prem ;) so you just have to take these things as a sign of how well the club is doing and trust that new players will carry on the good times. gutted to see him go and hope hes a success at city



As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:


This is probably true Allan. After all, look what happened when Malky bought Cornelius. There was a consequential demotion and loss of all the top players with a few exceptions. This could happen to Swansea, although the longer they are up there, the income makes stability more likely. They have a squad now of some depth. Every club outside the top 4 is a selling club up to a point. Look at Spurs, Southhampton etc.

I'm sure the £25m plus will be spent carefully rather than blown on a single player.

I wish we were in that position to be honest.



Agree with this but they have gomez who clearly wasnt or isnt happy at being out team, boney wasn't happy being substituted nearly every game, its been policy for ages to do this! point making is will it back fire in time as not a prolific scoring side if look at recent results only 1 goal in games mostly boney hes gone now, tbh it is only they who can run way they are as started at beginning and continued it all way thru what hapens if goes wrong with new signing? be interesting see how monk handles things :old:

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:45 pm

You'd have thought that Gomis would be pleased now that Bony is leaving buy I've heard he is still cheesed off and wants out. You're spot on that they need to be mega careful reappointing a frontman!! Tricky to say the least.

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:43 pm

Woodville Willie wrote:You'd have thought that Gomis would be pleased now that Bony is leaving buy I've heard he is still cheesed off and wants out. You're spot on that they need to be mega careful reappointing a frontman!! Tricky to say the least.



No player is going to be happy getting subed every game and there is no reason it wont continue as michu suffered same thing having boney come on for him most game's pattern emerging? And swans fans arrogantly think they wont get it wrong? Or spew Jenkins wont? :old:

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:11 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o


not a shame at all, shows we've done some brilliant business in finding/producing players that top teams want.

at the end of the day we're only swansea city, we have been massively overachieving for years despite not being able to afford to pay the megabucks to players. bony has no ties to swansea (dont think we have a big ivory coast community), and the chance to compete for major trophies for one of the worlds best teams on a shitload of money. why wouldnt he go?!

if big teams weren't in for our players/managers it would mean that they arent performing well enough, which would mean that we would probably be the sort of team who risked banktruptcy trying to go up, got bailed out by a nutter who almost ruined the club then went down in our first season in the prem ;) so you just have to take these things as a sign of how well the club is doing and trust that new players will carry on the good times. gutted to see him go and hope hes a success at city



As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:


i've seen quite a lot of your posts predicting swansea collapse yet it never seems to materialise....maybe one day you'll be right but so far out of all of the players we've sold to 'bigger' teams, none have made any real impact at their clubs and the deals has only really benefited swansea city in hindsight.

whilst i get what you're saying re progression, when the likes of liverpool, spurs, man city come in for your players its very difficult to keep them for reasons in my original post. and its not just swansea you could name pretty much any club outside of the top 6/7 (southampton or newcastle for example) but if these bigger clubs werent interested it would be because our players are shite. and i know which scenario i'd rather be in

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:17 pm

kenbarlow wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
xajax wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:The law of averages meant they were bound to get one striker right. They've signed a load of shite up front too in recent years. Fair play they've done well with bony, but who really cares?


Yeah, we must have made some right crap signings, to be playing our fourth season in the PL. Last year our club was amongst the forty richest clubs in the world (top thirty this year), we must have some right idiots running The Swans. One of the things in our favour is that we don't have a megalomaniac, billionaire owner, just a few ordinary millionaires, who are life long fans.

In Huw we trust, he'll already have planned for Wilfried departing.



its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths! :o


not a shame at all, shows we've done some brilliant business in finding/producing players that top teams want.

at the end of the day we're only swansea city, we have been massively overachieving for years despite not being able to afford to pay the megabucks to players. bony has no ties to swansea (dont think we have a big ivory coast community), and the chance to compete for major trophies for one of the worlds best teams on a shitload of money. why wouldnt he go?!

if big teams weren't in for our players/managers it would mean that they arent performing well enough, which would mean that we would probably be the sort of team who risked banktruptcy trying to go up, got bailed out by a nutter who almost ruined the club then went down in our first season in the prem ;) so you just have to take these things as a sign of how well the club is doing and trust that new players will carry on the good times. gutted to see him go and hope hes a success at city



As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:


i've seen quite a lot of your posts predicting swansea collapse yet it never seems to materialise....maybe one day you'll be right but so far out of all of the players we've sold to 'bigger' teams, none have made any real impact at their clubs and the deals has only really benefited swansea city in hindsight.

whilst i get what you're saying re progression, when the likes of liverpool, spurs, man city come in for your players its very difficult to keep them for reasons in my original post. and its not just swansea you could name pretty much any club outside of the top 6/7 (southampton or newcastle for example) but if these bigger clubs werent interested it would be because our players are shite. and i know which scenario i'd rather be in




Nice of you to show interest in what I write! :laughing6: but not saying you will fail but just having discussion with fellow bluebird and actually have praised you in this thread :thumbup:

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:33 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths!


Well we know we are not the biggest football club in the world, unlike you lot who think you are "bigger than Barcelona". No one ever wants to leave CCFC do they, except for the likes of Aaron Ramsey and Ross Mccormac and a good few others, not to mention those who left of their own accord, like Adam Matthews and Joe Ledley, who went for nothing. Why would these players leave to join a smaller club. :o

pembroke allan wrote:As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:


I do believe that you're also a "selling club" (see above). The fact is we're all selling clubs. Man Utd sold Beckham and Ronaldo, Liverpool sold Torres, Tottenham Bale ETC.

Bit of advice, think about what you post before you press the "Submit" button or you'll end up having your post ridiculed.

Re: BONY SET TO LEAVE SWANSEA?????

Wed Jan 14, 2015 12:08 am

xajax wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
its a shame every one wants to leave your club after they have been there 18mnths!


Well we know we are not the biggest football club in the world, unlike you lot who think you are "bigger than Barcelona". No one ever wants to leave CCFC do they, except for the likes of Aaron Ramsey and Ross Mccormac and a good few others, not to mention those who left of their own accord, like Adam Matthews and Joe Ledley, who went for nothing. Why would these players leave to join a smaller club. :o

pembroke allan wrote:As ex player of yours said? your a selling club tbh that's recipe for potential failure in future! while you do pick the right player to replace sold ones, it will only take one failure up front to put pressure on club. Also could stop progession towards better things by selling best players. :old:


I do believe that you're also a "selling club" (see above). The fact is we're all selling clubs. Man Utd sold Beckham and Ronaldo, Liverpool sold Torres, Tottenham Bale ETC.

Bit of advice, think about what you post before you press the "Submit" button or you'll end up having your post ridiculed.




ffs i was quoting what (YOUR) ex player said about (YOUR) club, and you know what his reference was, but if you choose to expand it to all football well thats your parogative but seeing as we are discussing swansea keep it to that please! but will have to be with someone else as i am off to sunny mexico in morning 2 wks of tequila :thumbup: :happy1: :wave: