" SOME HONESTY PLEASE FROM CARDIFF CITY FANS "

I'm 50/50 as I have had a ticket since I was 8 and now I'm 55. But supporting CCFC now has become a miserable experience I'm afraid

Annis, to quote one of your own posts from the other day -


For the first time ever I asked my daughter this morning,shall we pack in going to home games next season and just go away,Annaise replied but what would we do without Cardiff City and She still wants to go(she's nearly 14yrs old had a season ticket for 10 years). So I will still reluctantly be there and not enjoying it.


Given what you said there, why do you ask us why now? You are clearly feeling exactly the same as many of us. I don't think your getting stick, I suppose some are just disappointed because, rightly or wrongly, you do have a certain amount of influence and your boycott would be a big boost.

Because I want to read Fans honest reasons

Tan is getting to me and his continual laughing at us and taking the piss out of us and bit by bit he has taken my club from me,but I dont want him to win by driving us away.

I have just read every persons posts and it really hurts to see what Tan has done to many many loyal City fans.

To see and read some of the names on here and on facebook who I have known for years being broken by Tan makes see how much this Dictator has destroyed our club.

There are thousands who are using the rebrand now as excuse,but sadly there are thousands who are really broken by what Tan is doing to our club.

I really dont know what lies ahead for our once proud club and fans

i renewed as always, but after the rebrand it didnt feel like my team. i spend some of my time away from cardiff and don't look out for our results with the same anticipation. it feels more like vincent tan FC, than cardiff city IMO.

PL football was good, but nowhere near as good as it should have been. i think many rebrand supporters have joined post relegation as they've seen scraping survival in the PL is not worth selling out the clubs history. they thought it would be worth it to have good players at the CCS in the PL, but it isn't. now we are back to a level below we were pre rebrand, fans are realising it wasn't worth it after all.

its getting close to being a chore to go to our games now, an expensive chore at that. the only game i have genuinely enjoyed this season was fulham away, the atmosphere that day was fantastic.

Annis, to quote one of your own posts from the other day -


For the first time ever I asked my daughter this morning,shall we pack in going to home games next season and just go away,Annaise replied but what would we do without Cardiff City and She still wants to go(she's nearly 14yrs old had a season ticket for 10 years). So I will still reluctantly be there and not enjoying it.


Given what you said there, why do you ask us why now? You are clearly feeling exactly the same as many of us. I don't think your getting stick, I suppose some are just disappointed because, rightly or wrongly, you do have a certain amount of influence and your boycott would be a big boost.

Because I want to read Fans honest reasons

Tan is getting to me and his continual laughing at us and taking the piss out of us and bit by bit he has taken my club from me,but I dont want him to win by driving us away.

Oh my god you're not wrong there, he's got to me, I just cannot stand it any more.

He's not trying to drive us away, he wants as many of us as he can, the more people in the stadium the more he can point and say, "what's the problem".

The only way he wins is if we keep going. Ultimately we have tried with the marches, wearing blue etc for two and a half years. It hasn't worked, he said himself in the Christmas Day interview -

“I would like to tell them this: Protesting will not make me change my mind," he said in an interview with Sky Sports News.

“Cardiff will stay red and we hope the fans will think carefully and support the club so that we can get promoted to the Premier League

He is basically saying there "shut up and get on with supporting the team" . If you renew you are in effect saying "OK".

have read peoples posts with interest on this matter and agree with a lot that has been said for me its not the same anymore there have been years of waiting for the next game time could not go quick enough now its a chore to be bothered to go crap atmosphere and poor team i have been used to for 50 years but tan is mocking us so much now he does not care if its an empty stadium i accepted red as if it ment we could continue as a club so be it but added to the cost 680 pounds for me and my grandson is to much for so little in return my father had a saying true today as it was then fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me well mr tan you win i wont be renewing

Ive hated the rebrand from day one, signed numerous petitions, taken part in marches, 1927 protests etc etc. None of this has done any good up to now and not only that but the club are not even willing to enter in to any meaningful dialogue with supporters groups or season ticket holders.

Tans DIRECT involvement in the club (ie, since TG was binned off) is when the club started to deteriorate all be it it was followed initially by a year of almost unprecedented success on the field as he threw money (or more accurately mortgaged more and more money against the club) at his shiny new red toy!!

The facts are that the rebrand shocked us all and we all reacted in different ways. I hated it, opposed it and continued to wear blue etc, but there is no other club I want to actively support as I am a Cardiff lad and so there was only one choice in my mind. Up until that post on CCMB, our club appeared to be very well run and going in tge right direction. When Malky was recruited we had our pick of top managers and carried out what appeared to be a thorough recruitment process. Contrast this with the way in which Ole and RS have been brought in and it highlights how bad things have got under Tan.

Maybe boycotting in 2012 was the right move in hindsight, but there were so few people willing to do it it seemed pointless. In some ways, that makes the likes of TLGs stance even more admirable.

There certainly feels right now, though, that there is a groundswell of support for #NoBlueNoRenew and if thousands of us do it, then I believe it will have an effect. The club has been so badly run since Tan became DIRECTLY involved that I just can't put money in to his puppet circus and feel a stand now has to be made!!!

I didnt renew my season ticket at the start of the season because the last few years have got to me, lots of mates dont go anymore, the atmosphere is shit,tan not giving a toss about our tradition,but after missing the first two games i rung up the club and renewed i wish i hadnt now because its getting worse,ihave seen plenty of relegations in my time following the city but we still got behind the side, that dont happen anymore its just people moaning about it instead of doing something positive, i have been on a few protests but that aint going to get us anyware the only way for me is to give up me season ticket

have read peoples posts with interest on this matter and agree with a lot that has been said for me its not the same anymore there have been years of waiting for the next game time could not go quick enough now its a chore to be bothered to go crap atmosphere and poor team i have been used to for 50 years but tan is mocking us so much now he does not care if its an empty stadium i accepted red as if it ment we could continue as a club so be it but added to the cost 680 pounds for me and my grandson is to much for so little in return my father had a saying true today as it was then fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me well mr tan you win i wont be renewing

Nicky, he doesn't win. I've only recently started boycotting and I have to say I feel better in myself, it feels like the right thing to do. My only regret is that I should have done it from the start.

Annis you need to boycott. Get onto the papers. No one questions your allegiance to Cardiff City. I only ever went to the football for the day out atmosphere and the crack. After M.D coaches stopped and the rebrand that was it for me! When I drive past the CCS and look at that badge I still shake my head in disgust. Going to the Football these days is a so so different than when we were young. They wanted the old guard gone . Most now have

have read peoples posts with interest on this matter and agree with a lot that has been said for me its not the same anymore there have been years of waiting for the next game time could not go quick enough now its a chore to be bothered to go crap atmosphere and poor team i have been used to for 50 years but tan is mocking us so much now he does not care if its an empty stadium i accepted red as if it ment we could continue as a club so be it but added to the cost 680 pounds for me and my grandson is to much for so little in return my father had a saying true today as it was then fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me well mr tan you win i wont be renewing

Nicky, he doesn't win. I've only recently started boycotting and I have to say I feel better in myself, it feels like the right thing to do. My only regret is that I should have done it from the start.

That's one of my regrets I wish I had when it all come to light atleast I could say I done something about it and didn't endorse it but most went along with it and did endorse for a debt free club and other broken promises so as sad as it sounds we got the club we deserve rite now. Not renewing or spending another game in the ccs as your only supporting what the lunatic liar wants to do then, that's my opinion on it.

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Most of them because of an accumulation, atmosphere, no edge, family club loads of kids and women, no Ninian Park, boring, players are overpaid and don't care, cost, and quite a few because at the end of the season there will be no need for cup final tickets or Premiership season tickets, and a smaller percentage Tan and or the rebrand, added together with the accumulation effect........

You are right if it was really only about the rebrand two or three years ago was the time to not renew, when we were doing well and looked like pushing on for the premiership..............

Boycotting is the only way to drive him out of town. I think someone earlier said it's the realisation that what we let him do wasn't worth it

Price Freeze over all depends on that to be honest, if it does go up a lot i wont be paying it and to be truefull i couldnt give a shit at the moment just dont enjoy the crack anymore.

Can't make a lot of games due to work. Hence can't afford to lose 100's. Been like that for years now.

End of.

I hated the Rebrand from the first moment I heard about it but was prepared to tolerate it on the basis that my club would be debt-free, large sums of money would be invested to propel us to the Promised Land and that Tan would, at some point following our protestations, reinstate the badge and blue kit. I never bought into it or wore anything associated with the rebrand and respected those (like Dave Sugarman) who walked away at that point but thought I could tolerate it for some time.

I never realised that bending over and taking Tan up the backside (being honest, to chase the dream, that's what I did) would leave me feeling the way I do 2.5 years later. I think some envy of what the Jacks were achieving heightened my desire to accept it too.

Last season was something I'd been dreaming about since I attended my first game in the early 70's and yet, the Jacks and Man City at home apart, I didn't enjoy any of it. Now that could be attributed to poor performances but it was much more than that. After all, I'd been there when we were truly shit and finishing near the bottom of the old 4th division with 23 draws in a season - that was painful to watch but I'd always felt a strong emotional bond with my club which wasn't broken by on-the-pitch performances.

I've been asking myself some honest questions; would I be feeling the way I now do and considering not renewing if we had stayed up last season and were now mid-table or if we were challenging at the top of the Championship? The answer is yes, I know I would; I've just fallen out of love with the club because I feel like I've been cheated on. I need to do something that Tan will recognise as a protest by me and I believe that not renewing is the most powerful message I can give. Poor Season Ticket sales, an empty stadium and protests outside the ground will have much more of an impact on Tan and carry more media interest than attending and chanting "We'll always be Blue" on 19.27.

So, I don't feel that I'm being hypocritical by withdrawing my support now, it's just taken me longer to feel this way than other fans who have done so previously.

Price Freeze over all depends on that to be honest, if it does go up a lot i wont be paying it and to be truefull i couldnt give a shit at the moment just dont enjoy the crack anymore.

I bet they don't go up, if anything I think they will give an early renewal reduction of about 10% to 20%, he will test the fans resolve..........

I'm not sure at the moment, simply because, I'm not enjoying it any more, and some weeks it's hard to go. I'll decide nearer the end of the season, but can't see the atmosphere or enjoyment improving and its a lot of cash that I could probably do something decent with. My Son will probably be off away at Uni too, so that will help my decision as he won't need one then either.....

Annis i will be renewing because however much i hate the rebrand those players need our support.

An its the worst football ive seen in years and i dont enjoy it nemore but il never supporting our team without our support in my eyes things are going to get a lot worst before they get better.

I have been on a price freeze so already had my season ticket when they played in red for the first time / the changes were announced . I contemplated asking for a refund but was always of the opinion you could make a more effective protest in the ground and by wearing blue etc. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. At the start I never thought it would go on for more than 1 season due to fan power .

After adopting that approach in season one of our shame , I ( and prob many others) was still of the opinion protest would be best served by turning up and trying to make a stand . Looking at it, that was probably the year to do something as the clown actually turned up for most of the games . Given the above , not renewing on a price freeze in prem year was not an option for me . Completely pointless as there are thousands of plastic fans in South Wales who would have happily snapped up empty seats .

This season the experience of watching the club I once loved has become a complete chore . I actually think the champ is a good league , and for the avoidance of doubt I have watched City play more times in league 2 than the prem , so the level we are playing at is not a issue . The clown has embedded a completely toxic atmosphere in to the club which is getting worse . His Xmas day message to the fans infuriated me , he just doesn't know when to f**k up. Protests in and outside the ground have done absolutely nothing . So for me , it's time for a different approach and one which will hit him in the pocket. Regardless of what they do with prices . I will not be renewing unless the rebrand is reversed.

Why are you not renewing your season tickets for 2015/16 Season?

If its because of the Rebrand, then why did we have 22,500 season ticket holders nearly 2 years ago,then 18,200 season ticket holders renew in February/March 2014?

I have Hated/Detested the Rebrand from day one,but I chose to Support Cardiff City No matter what and continue to keep our Club BLUE within the Stadium, Many many City fans told me to move on regarding the Rebrand Now the same ones are not renewing?

In 2012 I never went with the flow of Red and got stick for it massively and today I seem to be going against the flow again and getting stick again, but I have remained consistent and always been for the BLUE & OUR BADGE nothing else

I totally Respect those that walked away in 2012, but why now?
Annis I am in a similar position to yourself. I have also gone to football last few years with my son who is now 14 and he also plays local kids football which is Saturday mornings. Which means that some weeks we literally wash and change then drive 45 mins to the cardiff stadium. He also misses some of his games if cardiff kick off early or if we go to the odd away game. I just wonder how long he still wants to go. At the moment he still loves going he hates the red etc but still want to go. But in a few years he be playing local adults football which will be 3pm kick off and then he has choice of playing or watching cardiff. So I want to make most of time going with him and guess what I'm saying is that you may not be able to take your daughter forever so surely we need to while we can
Surely you should of not renewed from day one?

HONESTY PLEASE?

I hated the Rebrand from the first moment I heard about it but was prepared to tolerate it on the basis that my club would be debt-free, large sums of money would be invested to propel us to the Promised Land and that Tan would, at some point following our protestations, reinstate the badge and blue kit. I never bought into it or wore anything associated with the rebrand and respected those (like Dave Sugarman) who walked away at that point but thought I could tolerate it for some time.

I never realised that bending over and taking Tan up the backside (being honest, to chase the dream, that's what I did) would leave me feeling the way I do 2.5 years later. I think some envy of what the Jacks were achieving heightened my desire to accept it too.

Last season was something I'd been dreaming about since I attended my first game in the early 70's and yet, the Jacks and Man City at home apart, I didn't enjoy any of it. Now that could be attributed to poor performances but it was much more than that. After all, I'd been there when we were truly shit and finishing near the bottom of the old 4th division with 23 draws in a season - that was painful to watch but I'd always felt a strong emotional bond with my club which wasn't broken by on-the-pitch performances.

I've been asking myself some honest questions; would I be feeling the way I now do and considering not renewing if we had stayed up last season and were now mid-table or if we were challenging at the top of the Championship? The answer is yes, I know I would; I've just fallen out of love with the club because I feel like I've been cheated on. I need to do something that Tan will recognise as a protest by me and I believe that not renewing is the most powerful message I can give. Poor Season Ticket sales, an empty stadium and protests outside the ground will have much more of an impact on Tan and carry more media interest than attending and chanting "We'll always be Blue" on 19.27.

So, I don't feel that I'm being hypocritical by withdrawing my support now, it's just taken me longer to feel this way than other fans who have done so previously.

I feel pretty much exactly the same as you EG. I'm pretty sure there are very many that feel the same too. But you are doing what you feel is right and if and when change comes you can at least say you tried.

I think a lot of supporters didn't think the club would sink to the levels it has now. Many reluctantly accepted the red in return for investment and a debt free club. No-one could have predicted the way Tan was planning to run the club, and for someone who knew absolutely nothing about football started interfering in team selection etc. Then there were a couple of ludicrous management appointments.
It doesn't take a genius to see that this club is a complete shambles, and that Tan is destroying 100 years of proud tradition. Tonteg has hit the nail on the head, if people are not prepared to make a stand now, you can kiss goodbye to seeing the true Cardiff City playing in blue for a long time, maybe forever. I haven't been to the CCS for a long time, and won't return until we are back in our traditional colours. Unfortunately, it is beginning to look as if I may never return, because it appears that supporters who really feel strongly enough to make a true stand are few and far between. Everyone is entitled to take whatever action they think is best, and I have to accept that most people will go as far as marching a couple of miles and waving some flags around, but not much more. I personally don't think that this will cause Tan to lose even a minutes sleep, but I hope that I am wrong as I miss my traditional Saturday pint followed by the game followed by lots more pints.

Don't post often here but for all its worth here goes: The rebrand and was taken as it was stated, red or bust. Never wanted it but as long CCFC was playing that was okay.

Currently I feel sick at seeing fan against fan, holier than though those who keep spouting how they were one of the few who objected, Tan refusing to at least acknowledge we are unhappy, my kids who are 13 and 14 confused as the team they love play in a colour (which they don't have strong feelings on like most kids) that is reviled amongst the older generation.

I hate what we have become, not solely because of red but because we are a laughing stock and looked at like MK Dons. I did the aways in the eighties and nineties and have followed them home since 1976 so spare me the plastic jibes.

It's breaking my heart at the moment, I feel like I'm going through a divorce. Kamer vs Kramer but played out through Sky.

I won't be renewing as I have another 6 years on my 10 year ban. It's though the best ban I ever had albeit I had stopped going anyway when they invoked it.

Why because what was a fantastic time and match day experience became tainted and ruined and non enjoyable and from the outside seems as I was correct in my thoughts and only got worse and worse. I may appeal my ban soon as it's run down and ask for another 10 year extension.

Annis, you should not renew you are just punishing yourself, the club you loved died a long time ago and will never return.

A lot of fans looked for 'off the pitch' leaders to help solve this Red problem. From meetings, protests, marches, anti-tan songs to pro blue ones.
It's never too late to fight for the cause, especially if it means a chance of actually getting our Colours back.
Fans need to stop asking 'why now?' and actually get behind people that have chose not to renew.
Is doesn't make them any less of a fan or someone with lower calibre as a supporter.

It's time for better known fans to make a different stance as there will be others looking upon and following their lead.
The protests that have happened have FAILED thus far.
It's not time to question people's timing of non-renewal

I fully back #NoBlueNoRenew as I feel it is the first time there has been a mass desire to take significant action.

It must not, however, become another divide as the division was what screwed us over 2 and a half years ago. If people feel they want to renew, that has to be respected and they can still play a part by holding off until the last day to ensure the clubs income from season ticket sales is significantly down initially.

We must be united, renewing or no,t and as others have said, I may even attend games where protests are planned next season.

If we are going to fight Tan, we need to be aware that it will be tough and he'll use every dirty trick, PR stunt and threat in the book. Together we have a fighting chance though as our money is not insignificant. Yes, Tan is worth a fortune, but he isnt going to just keep throwing that at the club.

Cardiff City the business relys on income streams and we are a very important one as we will no doubt see when they bribe us with cheap tickets and whatever else they may have up their sleeve.

I was a season ticket holder in the 80s and 90s, the 90s in general rank alongside the 30s as the worst in City's on field history, but myself and others stood by the club. I've now had an unbroken stint of around 15 years as a season ticket holder, but now I've had enough! I first thought about not renewing after the Reading home win. In all my years supporting the club I never thought seeing a City win would leave me so deflated. Tan, slowly and steadily has killed my passion for the club. I never liked the rebrand but put up with it cos I thought Tan was doing good things for the club. Let's face it, it's been shite ever since, the fans have been disunited and compared to the other promotions I've witnessed, 2013 felt hollow. Events with all the managers, Tans comments, the red seats etc have now basically killed it for me. The club could drop the ST price to a tenner, even if we got to the Prem I wont renew. I won't renew, or go to any game after this season till the rebrand is reversed. I'm done with it till then.

A lot of fans looked for 'off the pitch' leaders to help solve this Red problem. From meetings, protests, marches, anti-tan songs to pro blue ones.
It's never too late to fight for the cause, especially if it means a chance of actually getting our Colours back.
Fans need to stop asking 'why now?' and actually get behind people that have chose not to renew.
Is doesn't make them any less of a fan or someone with lower calibre as a supporter.

It's time for better known fans to make a different stance as there will be others looking upon and following their lead.
The protests that have happened have FAILED thus far.
It's not time to question people's timing of non-renewal

I'd rather not renew and try to get a change even if it fails, than spend the money and sit there wishing I had tried next season. Won't regret trying

To see that badge on Match Of The Day, and us at home in red was stomach churning for me. Yes I celebrated on the pitch when we got promoted, but it was still not right, and did the poznan when we beat Man City, but it was still strange and artificial for me, people would say to be "I thought you would be going mental!" CCFC is an addictive loveable moorish drug to me, thats why after much soul searching I didn't stop when the rebrand was announced, I couldn't kick it unlike many of my mates did at the time. But it tasted different, it felt different, I felt ashamed that my club had sold out for all that investment, it represented everything I hated about modern sport, tampering with my beloved blue and our iconic badge, not for survival but for EPL obsessions, it was cringeworthy, but I just couldn't kick it. I tried, I moaned, I whinged, I still go.

Most of last season, and all of this I keep saying "thats it for me" but am still turning up for games, but its a facelift to far now, ignoring fans pleas, ignoring Tony Pulis, ignoring you and me and our history, I don't recognise it, I don't feel it. If we were still in the pre would I still be saying this? Absolutely, would I still be going?? I enjoyed watching PL football for the first time for sure, but I miss blue and the badge so much, so I am not renewing for the first time in many a moon because quite simply I feel its the strongest message to Tan to get him to either change us back or get out (no matter what the consequences). I will gladly accept a fall down the leagues and renew in a shot if it was the latter.

I will then, invest my season ticket bucks into away trips instead next year, where I know we will be in blue (providing Tan hasn't put a stop to that either)

Gutted, and have been ever since I saw Gunnarson in that kit on that awful day.