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Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:54 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Man of Harlech wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:Most put up with rebrand, not accepted it! Football is a drug to majority of fans, can't go without it. Why should Tan's selfish decisions take away a huge part of people's lives? People will go no matter how bad it gets! Some might not, some couldn't go through it, makes them no less of a fan if they put up with it or not!

No fan is pro-red, they're just pro-Cardiff City, and probably 100% of people would choose blue if the option is given! You're not helping the cause by calling people sell outs as they didn't abandon the club at the earliest part of the rebrand!

The point is now, Tan has made some ridiculous decisions post-Malky era, and it is pushing fans over the edge of what they will accept! He's gone to far now, and that's why you get more and more saying they'll boycott, not because we're not successful anymore! There's only so much someone can handle, and decisions with manager for example, are a huge part of what can be accepted!


Spot on :thumbup:


Spot on. Too well thought through and presented for most on here though.


so in other words people on here are thick as f**k then. Pmsl


No Adam you just refuse to see the other side.

Those that stayed and supported the blue saved the blue.


Saved the blue ? The team are playing in red and paying fans are seen as supporting his changes


You just don't see it do you.

Well you wouldn't because you have not been there. The red was taking over and it would have won if we all had boycotted. However we did not dessert and the blue remained, small at first but grew, now the stadium is awash with blue. The blue lives.


Stop trying to justify your own actions. If there was a mass boycott from the start then something would have happened years ago now. Glory hunters

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:57 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Man of Harlech wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:Most put up with rebrand, not accepted it! Football is a drug to majority of fans, can't go without it. Why should Tan's selfish decisions take away a huge part of people's lives? People will go no matter how bad it gets! Some might not, some couldn't go through it, makes them no less of a fan if they put up with it or not!

No fan is pro-red, they're just pro-Cardiff City, and probably 100% of people would choose blue if the option is given! You're not helping the cause by calling people sell outs as they didn't abandon the club at the earliest part of the rebrand!

The point is now, Tan has made some ridiculous decisions post-Malky era, and it is pushing fans over the edge of what they will accept! He's gone to far now, and that's why you get more and more saying they'll boycott, not because we're not successful anymore! There's only so much someone can handle, and decisions with manager for example, are a huge part of what can be accepted!


Spot on :thumbup:


Spot on. Too well thought through and presented for most on here though.


so in other words people on here are thick as f**k then. Pmsl


No Adam you just refuse to see the other side.

Those that stayed and supported the blue saved the blue.


Saved the blue ? The team are playing in red and paying fans are seen as supporting his changes


You just don't see it do you.

Well you wouldn't because you have not been there. The red was taking over and it would have won if we all had boycotted. However we did not dessert and the blue remained, small at first but grew, now the stadium is awash with blue. The blue lives.


Totally agree with u Ian, the Red Glory hunters took over the stadium along with the Red Brigade, we had to keep the BLUE alive and I am glad we did,we took abuse and lost many so called fake friends, all worth while :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Sun Dec 28, 2014 11:59 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Man of Harlech wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:Most put up with rebrand, not accepted it! Football is a drug to majority of fans, can't go without it. Why should Tan's selfish decisions take away a huge part of people's lives? People will go no matter how bad it gets! Some might not, some couldn't go through it, makes them no less of a fan if they put up with it or not!

No fan is pro-red, they're just pro-Cardiff City, and probably 100% of people would choose blue if the option is given! You're not helping the cause by calling people sell outs as they didn't abandon the club at the earliest part of the rebrand!

The point is now, Tan has made some ridiculous decisions post-Malky era, and it is pushing fans over the edge of what they will accept! He's gone to far now, and that's why you get more and more saying they'll boycott, not because we're not successful anymore! There's only so much someone can handle, and decisions with manager for example, are a huge part of what can be accepted!


Spot on :thumbup:


Spot on. Too well thought through and presented for most on here though.


so in other words people on here are thick as f**k then. Pmsl


No Adam you just refuse to see the other side.

Those that stayed and supported the blue saved the blue.


Saved the blue ? The team are playing in red and paying fans are seen as supporting his changes


You just don't see it do you.

Well you wouldn't because you have not been there. The red was taking over and it would have won if we all had boycotted. However we did not dessert and the blue remained, small at first but grew, now the stadium is awash with blue. The blue lives.


Stop trying to justify your own actions. If there was a mass boycott from the start then something would have happened years ago now. Glory hunters


When the re-brand broke out we were on our way to the premier. If we would have boycotted we would have been replaced easily. We had a 6,000 waiting list when we got there. It would have not bothered Tan one bit.

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:01 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Man of Harlech wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:Most put up with rebrand, not accepted it! Football is a drug to majority of fans, can't go without it. Why should Tan's selfish decisions take away a huge part of people's lives? People will go no matter how bad it gets! Some might not, some couldn't go through it, makes them no less of a fan if they put up with it or not!

No fan is pro-red, they're just pro-Cardiff City, and probably 100% of people would choose blue if the option is given! You're not helping the cause by calling people sell outs as they didn't abandon the club at the earliest part of the rebrand!

The point is now, Tan has made some ridiculous decisions post-Malky era, and it is pushing fans over the edge of what they will accept! He's gone to far now, and that's why you get more and more saying they'll boycott, not because we're not successful anymore! There's only so much someone can handle, and decisions with manager for example, are a huge part of what can be accepted!


Spot on :thumbup:


Spot on. Too well thought through and presented for most on here though.


so in other words people on here are thick as f**k then. Pmsl


No Adam you just refuse to see the other side.

Those that stayed and supported the blue saved the blue.


Saved the blue ? The team are playing in red and paying fans are seen as supporting his changes


You just don't see it do you.

Well you wouldn't because you have not been there. The red was taking over and it would have won if we all had boycotted. However we did not dessert and the blue remained, small at first but grew, now the stadium is awash with blue. The blue lives.


Stop trying to justify your own actions. If there was a mass boycott from the start then something would have happened years ago now. Glory hunters


When the re-brand broke out we were on our way to the premier. If we would have boycotted we would have been replaced easily. We had a 6,000 waiting list when we got there. It would have not bothered Tan one bit.


So in other words Glory hunting

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:04 am

Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Man of Harlech wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:Most put up with rebrand, not accepted it! Football is a drug to majority of fans, can't go without it. Why should Tan's selfish decisions take away a huge part of people's lives? People will go no matter how bad it gets! Some might not, some couldn't go through it, makes them no less of a fan if they put up with it or not!

No fan is pro-red, they're just pro-Cardiff City, and probably 100% of people would choose blue if the option is given! You're not helping the cause by calling people sell outs as they didn't abandon the club at the earliest part of the rebrand!

The point is now, Tan has made some ridiculous decisions post-Malky era, and it is pushing fans over the edge of what they will accept! He's gone to far now, and that's why you get more and more saying they'll boycott, not because we're not successful anymore! There's only so much someone can handle, and decisions with manager for example, are a huge part of what can be accepted!


Spot on :thumbup:


Spot on. Too well thought through and presented for most on here though.


so in other words people on here are thick as f**k then. Pmsl


No Adam you just refuse to see the other side.

Those that stayed and supported the blue saved the blue.


Saved the blue ? The team are playing in red and paying fans are seen as supporting his changes


You just don't see it do you.

Well you wouldn't because you have not been there. The red was taking over and it would have won if we all had boycotted. However we did not dessert and the blue remained, small at first but grew, now the stadium is awash with blue. The blue lives.


Stop trying to justify your own actions. If there was a mass boycott from the start then something would have happened years ago now. Glory hunters


When the re-brand broke out we were on our way to the premier. If we would have boycotted we would have been replaced easily. We had a 6,000 waiting list when we got there. It would have not bothered Tan one bit.


So in other words Glory hunting


Ys if we had not turned up the club would have been filled with glory hunters. Fortunately it was not and the blue survived.

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:13 am

Tan is only now reactioning on the back of season ticket holders threatening not to buy. This should have happened years ago not now. The blue is dead and 'may' co,e back in the future but for now in the eyes of the club its died

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:16 am

Military Junta wrote:Tan is only now reactioning on the back of season ticket holders threatening not to buy. This should have happened years ago not now. The blue is dead and 'may' co,e back in the future but for now in the eyes of the club its died


And that is because he does not have the luxury of a waiting list which has vanished overnight.

The blue is not dead as it is the fans that has bought it back.

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:25 am

If blue was dead, Tan would not be coming out with a speech mirroring the Queen on Christmas Day saying we're red... He's obviously not to happy that he can't rid it! And trying to remind us just shows he's worried!

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:31 am

CalShepCCFC wrote:If blue was dead, Tan would not be coming out with a speech mirroring the Queen on Christmas Day saying we're red... He's obviously not to happy that he can't rid it! And trying to remind us just shows he's worried!


Which is the very worry he should have had years ago

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:25 am

Like many others I hated the rebrand right from the beginning we were however given no choice in the matter. Tan should have conducted a poll of season ticket holders and had he done so I am fairly sure 90% if not more would have voted to stay Blue. I love the Club too much to walk away so a boycott for me and many others was out of the question. Like many however I continued to wear Blue and support the team despite the fact they played in Red.

However it is totally wrong to say we are sell outs and accepted the rebrand because even on the night we got promoted and Tan was on the pitch milking the applause myself and many others were singing We will always be Blue and chanting Bluebirds. Had we walked away Tan would have replaced us with Premiership glory seekers and the Blue would have been well and truly dead! Instead the Blue is more and more prominent in the stadium with probably 90% or more wearing Blue.

Tan has fucked up big time with the rebrand and probably knows it but because of his culture he cannot be seen to lose face so will not reverse the Red and return us to Blue which is the only thing that could possibly unite the fans and put some pride back in our Club. We are in free fall at the moment and maybe we have to go down and spend a number of seasons rebuilding and living within our means with players who want to play for the shirt instead of some of the over paid mercenaries we have at the moment. What ever happens I will continue to support the Club and will continue to wear Blue because at some point we will go back to Blue and for that you can thank all the fans who have stuck with the Club despite all the shit we have had to put up with!

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:03 am

CF64 BLUE wrote:
Military Junta wrote:The team is losing!!!! Where were you at the beginning ? Slagging us all off that's where!!! Sell outs



Excellent way to get support for your cause, by calling those people you want to join the blue revolution sell outs. :thumbup:


wrong...... it's your cause and everyone else who supports Cardiff City...

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:29 am

Bluemellons wrote:I never backed the rebrand and have been home and away for 40 years.I put up with it in the hope that the debt would be wiped out. Now however, he has moved the goalposts again.
f**k Tan. I've missed the last 3 home games..the longest absence in nearly 30 years.
This has to happen now.....We have to stay away..This isnt our club any more. I cant relate to any of it. Honestly happier in div 4 in the 80's. At least we had pride.
We are just a laughing stock. A joke.


Respect your honesty fairplay

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:51 am

CalShepCCFC wrote:
Mr Shed wrote:He's right tho. How big was the protesting when we played against man city at home last season?
Or previous to that when we got promoted?
what has changed now apart from the results?

As I said in my reply, bad decisions post-malky era, and the comic announcements made by Tan, have pushed people over the edge!


No they haven't. It's the results that have changed.

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:26 am

maccydee wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
Mr Shed wrote:He's right tho. How big was the protesting when we played against man city at home last season?
Or previous to that when we got promoted?
what has changed now apart from the results?

As I said in my reply, bad decisions post-malky era, and the comic announcements made by Tan, have pushed people over the edge!


No they haven't. It's the results that have changed.

Thought our results were pretty bad towards the later stages of our promotion year, the whole of our Premier League season, and most of this season. To be fair, our results haven't been brilliant for going on two years. The difference is that back then we thought we had a manager and backroom staff who given time could turn things round. I think for most fans, the problem now is that there doesn't seem any light at the end of the tunnel, and nobody has any idea what little gem our crazy emperor will come out with next.

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:27 am

This Red versus Blue is turning into a Life of Brian parody, if people want full support of any protest against Tan then let the previous go and move forward. Tan isn't dividing the fans we are doing that ourselves

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:22 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Man of Harlech wrote:
Daniel_PT_blues wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:Most put up with rebrand, not accepted it! Football is a drug to majority of fans, can't go without it. Why should Tan's selfish decisions take away a huge part of people's lives? People will go no matter how bad it gets! Some might not, some couldn't go through it, makes them no less of a fan if they put up with it or not!

No fan is pro-red, they're just pro-Cardiff City, and probably 100% of people would choose blue if the option is given! You're not helping the cause by calling people sell outs as they didn't abandon the club at the earliest part of the rebrand!

The point is now, Tan has made some ridiculous decisions post-Malky era, and it is pushing fans over the edge of what they will accept! He's gone to far now, and that's why you get more and more saying they'll boycott, not because we're not successful anymore! There's only so much someone can handle, and decisions with manager for example, are a huge part of what can be accepted!


Spot on :thumbup:


Spot on. Too well thought through and presented for most on here though.


so in other words people on here are thick as f**k then. Pmsl


No Adam you just refuse to see the other side.

Those that stayed and supported the blue saved the blue.


Saved the blue ? The team are playing in red and paying fans are seen as supporting his changes


You just don't see it do you.

Well you wouldn't because you have not been there. The red was taking over and it would have won if we all had boycotted. However we did not dessert and the blue remained, small at first but grew, now the stadium is awash with blue. The blue lives.


Absolutely. It was counter productive to boycott in the premiership season as plastic reds wanted our seats. Under red and/or playing badly no none wants them. therefore, a lever to get tan out. It was always going to be a long & unpleasant road, but it feels like we have turned a corner. Now is the time to boycott :bluescarf:

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:55 pm

Military Junta wrote:
CalShepCCFC wrote:
Military Junta wrote:So after all that lads the point still stands, the only thing which have changed is the results

You've blatantly just ignored everything said :lol:


Because what you said was nonsense. If it was 1984 would did majority of people still go to work during the miners strikes ? No because in their mind it wasn't the righ thing to do. Yet fast forward 30 years people allowed a big businessman in Tan to trample over their club and change everything apart from the name which they would have IMO had if the FA didn't change the rules in time.

Back in '84 the returning workforce were call scabs, nowadays the returning fans are sell outs. Fact!!


And unfortunately, they too were supporting a cause they were never going to win. I'm proud they believed in their principles, but they were never going to win that battle. At least if Mr Tan ever sells the club we may go back to blue.

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Tue Dec 30, 2014 1:06 am

I do wonder if we started to do well and push for promotion that again it will go all quiet. For that reason I really hope we don't go up as I'm looking at the bigger picture. We need to get back what is rightfully ours before success. Sorry but because the way our fans have been that is the only way and that is for the team to fail for the fans to turn :cry:

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:49 am

TheRow wrote:If we had stayed up last year, nobody would have said anything. If we were top right now, nobody would say anything.

We get the biggest anti rebrand threads when we lose.



NOT FROM ME!

It matters not one iota which league the club currently plays within. The only thing that has any importance is whether it is Cardiff City Football Club, The BLUEbirds or not. At the moment, the answer is, sadly, no.

The club has morphed into some sort of self-consuming entity where the supporters don't feel they want to support, the manager doesn't seem to be able to manage and the players don't seem to want to play.

The rebrand was the start of all of this. Take the club back to BLUE and change the badge to a BLUEbird again. Only then will the hwyl return.

Everything else is just irrelevant. :thumbup:

Re: Most are only against the rebrand now because....

Tue Dec 30, 2014 5:18 am

Results ain't helping and your rite brownie people have jumped on the band wagon now because of that in my opinion. I remember back then when there was very little vs the rebrand on here and we stuck to out opinions and we took some shit for it that's for sure even from some in the very thread which makes me laugh now as theve all jumped the fence years later and got the club they deserve.