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Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:44 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.


That description points to a team well below mid table.

I feel the performances have not justified the results of 2 points a game under Slade. This could all balance out over the festive season and the points average will drop to what the performances reflect. I feel we will drop below the mid table position but I do feel we have enough to avoid a relegation fight.

My fear is we might get complacent with that and drop further. Tan wants to streamline the club and will do that. He is putting faith in Slade bringing in cheap players. Tan is not bothered if we drop a league all two as he has the parachute payments to look forward to. Once they dry up then he will be gone. I just hope we are not in a league below when that happens.


Ian, Of who we are getting rid of,is also down to Tan,which again is very worrying.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:46 pm

trotskie wrote:On the way to car heard 2 bournemouth fans saying they won't even have a blue kit next season there be red and white :(

This is true unfortunately, I hold my hands up I was a reluctant red but it was for the promise of debt to equity and money spent on players and staff. It was a mistake made by many but its never too late.

We now have a bigger debt, worse manager and worse team than when tan took over. And a divided fan base with a horrible red kit and badge.

Afc Wimbledon have done it we may need to do same?


Fair play to you for holding yr hands up, next season could be the final nail in the coffin for many City fans :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:54 pm

I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 6:58 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.


That description points to a team well below mid table.

I feel the performances have not justified the results of 2 points a game under Slade. This could all balance out over the festive season and the points average will drop to what the performances reflect. I feel we will drop below the mid table position but I do feel we have enough to avoid a relegation fight.

My fear is we might get complacent with that and drop further. Tan wants to streamline the club and will do that. He is putting faith in Slade bringing in cheap players. Tan is not bothered if we drop a league all two as he has the parachute payments to look forward to. Once they dry up then he will be gone. I just hope we are not in a league below when that happens.


Ian, Of who we are getting rid of,is also down to Tan,which again is very worrying.


So painfully clear now. Tan has basically failed here and will asset strip the club to recoup what he has loss. The main asset strip will be the parachute payments. When do they dry up, 2 more years I think.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:08 pm

Awful performance. We need a left back and magna must play. Kimbo was dreadful.
As for the white kit don't get me started.
Nice to meet up with forum members again and the only other good thing was Tommy going on pitch at half time and scoring a pen.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:09 pm

Echo.. "Cardiff City manager Russell Slade blasts his defenders following 5-3 defeat to Bournemouth"

Yeah well he decided to play without Fabio and Manga and continued with Gunnar and Whitts in front of his back 2 so perhaps he needs to look at his team selection.

Useless manager.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.



Disagree, we have in my opinion,just the wrong manager to get the best out of them.


I think we have 1 of the best squads, problem is, our best players don't suit a 4-4-2 and are not going to win us games sat in the stands.

Guerra
Dhaeli
Ravel
Fabio
Cala (although he's gone now)

These 5 would start for most teams in the championship

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:33 pm

Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Very sad. The blokes a c**t

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:35 pm

The performance in defence was woeful today. It's all very well pressing forward but you can't do that naïvely and leave the back door wide open.

The kit is a disgrace. The 3rd kit should have at least a blue trim. All we had to cheer today was the piddling little token Bluebird on the badge!!

The comment above about Bournemouth fans saying we won't have any blue kit next year made me laugh..... But then I laughed at the rumours of changing to red so I'm now really worried.

Tan could easily have the team play in blue away from home without losing face (such a precious thing to a Malaysian!!!!). Instead he is flexing his muscles to put his customers in their place. I wish he'd exercise his hamstrings and walk away. He is taking away the last vestiges of our identity.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:45 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.


Its hard to tell how good the squad is when Slade will only consider his special 18 dont you agree?

I could spend all evening pointing out the problem with Slade and the way he manages but I think its clear for everyone to see even if they choose to ignore it. The early points will paper over the cracks for some but not for me. I dread to think what state the squad will end up in once Slade has finished the end of Jan.



Spot on, I can't agree strongly enough with your point.... A decent manager would be able to utilise creative players and use a system to suit his best talent. He also would be able to understand which players to play in the correct positions.

Slade is below average in ability as a manger an has clearly shown why he has spent all of his career in the bottom ,divisions and non league..


We need a miracle for Xmas.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:47 pm

Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Adam, I thought the same that I had lost good friends over it,but I realise they must never have been good friends in the first place.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:49 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.


That description points to a team well below mid table.

I feel the performances have not justified the results of 2 points a game under Slade. This could all balance out over the festive season and the points average will drop to what the performances reflect. I feel we will drop below the mid table position but I do feel we have enough to avoid a relegation fight.

My fear is we might get complacent with that and drop further. Tan wants to streamline the club and will do that. He is putting faith in Slade bringing in cheap players. Tan is not bothered if we drop a league all two as he has the parachute payments to look forward to. Once they dry up then he will be gone. I just hope we are not in a league below when that happens.


Ian, Of who we are getting rid of,is also down to Tan,which again is very worrying.


So painfully clear now. Tan has basically failed here and will asset strip the club to recoup what he has loss. The main asset strip will be the parachute payments. When do they dry up, 2 more years I think.


Tan has failed and my worry is he is now getting worse with his attitude and pathetic ideas, like the kit today :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:51 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:Awful performance. We need a left back and magna must play. Kimbo was dreadful.
As for the white kit don't get me started.
Nice to meet up with forum members again and the only other good thing was Tommy going on pitch at half time and scoring a pen.


Manga must play, by far one of our main assets :thumbright:

Well done a Tommy and yes always good to see you Gareth and your sons :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:52 pm

AfricanBluebird wrote:Echo.. "Cardiff City manager Russell Slade blasts his defenders following 5-3 defeat to Bournemouth"

Yeah well he decided to play without Fabio and Manga and continued with Gunnar and Whitts in front of his back 2 so perhaps he needs to look at his team selection.

Useless manager.


Slade has to take the blame today.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:53 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.



Disagree, we have in my opinion,just the wrong manager to get the best out of them.


I think we have 1 of the best squads, problem is, our best players don't suit a 4-4-2 and are not going to win us games sat in the stands.

Guerra
Dhaeli
Ravel
Fabio
Cala (although he's gone now)

These 5 would start for most teams in the championship



Just those 5 players alone would get in any other Championship team.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:53 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Adam, I thought the same that I had lost good friends over it,but I realise they must never have been good friends in the first place.


Completely understand your point and probably agree but my social life was destroyed because of my anti-tan stance and during those years since people drift away if you don't keep in touch.

Don't get me wrong Annis I have had full-on arguments with people about the rebrand and whether it's my stubbornness or not I haven't spoken to them since unfortunately

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:54 pm

Woodville Willie wrote:The performance in defence was woeful today. It's all very well pressing forward but you can't do that naïvely and leave the back door wide open.

The kit is a disgrace. The 3rd kit should have at least a blue trim. All we had to cheer today was the piddling little token Bluebird on the badge!!

The comment above about Bournemouth fans saying we won't have any blue kit next year made me laugh..... But then I laughed at the rumours of changing to red so I'm now really worried.

Tan could easily have the team play in blue away from home without losing face (such a precious thing to a Malaysian!!!!). Instead he is flexing his muscles to put his customers in their place. I wish he'd exercise his hamstrings and walk away. He is taking away the last vestiges of our identity.


Top post and all true.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:55 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Adam, I thought the same that I had lost good friends over it,but I realise they must never have been good friends in the first place.


Completely understand your point and probably agree but my social life was destroyed because of my anti-tan stance and during those years since people drift away if you don't keep in touch.

Don't get me wrong Annis I have had full-on arguments with people about the rebrand and whether it's my stubbornness or not I haven't spoken to them since unfortunately


Adam, I feel for you on that,but my point is,some of them should their true colours and used the rebrand to turn fan against fan.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:57 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Adam, I thought the same that I had lost good friends over it,but I realise they must never have been good friends in the first place.


Completely understand your point and probably agree but my social life was destroyed because of my anti-tan stance and during those years since people drift away if you don't keep in touch.

Don't get me wrong Annis I have had full-on arguments with people about the rebrand and whether it's my stubbornness or not I haven't spoken to them since unfortunately


Adam, I feel for you on that,but my point is,some of them should their true colours and used the rebrand to turn fan against fan.


We know what really happened

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:03 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Adam, I thought the same that I had lost good friends over it,but I realise they must never have been good friends in the first place.


Completely understand your point and probably agree but my social life was destroyed because of my anti-tan stance and during those years since people drift away if you don't keep in touch.

Don't get me wrong Annis I have had full-on arguments with people about the rebrand and whether it's my stubbornness or not I haven't spoken to them since unfortunately


Adam, I feel for you on that,but my point is,some of them should their true colours and used the rebrand to turn fan against fan.


We know what really happened


Still waiting for the fence to be jumped,said it would happen in Jan 2012 :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:05 pm

:bluescarf: BLUE DAY AT CCS NEXT SATURDAY - BALLOONS,FLAGS,SCARVES - THE FEKIN LOT.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:06 pm

Blazing Saddles wrote: :bluescarf: BLUE DAY AT CCS NEXT SATURDAY - BALLOONS,FLAGS,SCARVES - THE FEKIN LOT.


Will try and promote this week :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I lost some good friends because of my stance regarding Tan and the rebrand. The man isn't worth losing friends over and I live in hope that one day they can start to understand why I took such a stance and we can once again have a beer some time in the future.

#TanOut


Adam, I thought the same that I had lost good friends over it,but I realise they must never have been good friends in the first place.


Completely understand your point and probably agree but my social life was destroyed because of my anti-tan stance and during those years since people drift away if you don't keep in touch.

Don't get me wrong Annis I have had full-on arguments with people about the rebrand and whether it's my stubbornness or not I haven't spoken to them since unfortunately


Adam, I feel for you on that,but my point is,some of them should their true colours and used the rebrand to turn fan against fan.


We know what really happened


Still waiting for the fence to be jumped,said it would happen in Jan 2012 :bluescarf:


I am not saying another word otherwise I'll be having another phone call out of the BLUE ;) pardon the pun

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:09 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Blazing Saddles wrote: :bluescarf: BLUE DAY AT CCS NEXT SATURDAY - BALLOONS,FLAGS,SCARVES - THE FEKIN LOT.


Will try and promote this week :bluescarf: :bluescarf:


Thanks Annis - lets do this. :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:10 pm

We HAVE Slade and a bunch of kids running are side its a joke Tan must want us relegated it will get worse until tan leaves sooner the better. :bluescarf:

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:11 pm

Bournemouth were in the championship last year guys, not wanting to pick hairs but they are a streetwise championship side, once you reach that goal you have a fighting chance f getting out of it.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:15 pm

f*cking hell is this going to happen every time we lose a game? We ain't got a divine right to win every game, slade is doing a good job ffs, support the club and stop moaning about things we got no control of! Bournemouth was better on the day plain and simple

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:29 pm

citybluechris wrote:f*cking hell is this going to happen every time we lose a game? We ain't got a divine right to win every game, slade is doing a good job ffs, support the club and stop moaning about things we got no control of! Bournemouth was better on the day plain and simple


Of course today was just a blip as our performances under slade have shown that we play great attacking football with a highly organised steel edge in defence, a combination that will see us, a recent PL side, storm to the top of the league.

Wake up.

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:33 pm

citybluechris wrote:f*cking hell is this going to happen every time we lose a game? We ain't got a divine right to win every game, slade is doing a good job ffs, support the club and stop moaning about things we got no control of! Bournemouth was better on the day plain and simple




He's not doing a very good job at all. Alienating creative players as he doesn't know how to use them., We have not had more than 50% possession in a single game under him yet, not even when we played 10men. We don't retain possession, put players out of position....

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. (Definition of insanity) To not make a change after last weeks abysmal display was ludicrous. The guy has shown why he has not been given an opportunity at this level before. He's not good enough. One dimensional, and belongs In bottom tiers, unless he's planning on taking us there?

He must bring fabio and manga in next week and make changes... If its the same xi again then I'm sorry but I cannot give him my support as it shows he really doesn't know what to do....

Re: MY VIEW/OPINION " WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON ? "

Sat Dec 13, 2014 8:33 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Carpe Diem wrote:Maybe now we can at least put an end to the "we have the best squad in the division" nonsense. It should also end any talk of promotion and how the points return under slade worthy of a promotion chasing side.

We are an average mid table side that lacks pace, steel and creativity, clueless in organisation and defence, managed by a less than average manager and coached by even worse coaches.

Not an ideal combination and we will get what we deserve - nothing.


Its hard to tell how good the squad is when Slade will only consider his special 18 dont you agree?

I could spend all evening pointing out the problem with Slade and the way he manages but I think its clear for everyone to see even if they choose to ignore it. The early points will paper over the cracks for some but not for me. I dread to think what state the squad will end up in once Slade has finished the end of Jan.


That's a fair point but I still don't see where we have the players that a balanced team needs. A squad lacking in pace, options out wide (proper wingers, not the likes of Kim or Daehli) and steel in the centre of midfield that once the ball is won can actually keep it and find a pass.

I agree with everything else.