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Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:04 am

paulh_85 wrote:
abergblue wrote:Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.



i didnt realise nepotism was a crime.


Can you expand on this racism?


Nepotism is not a crime but it can open you up to claims of favouritsm and discrimination, especially when something goes wrong or allegations are made. Tan has done this by making accusations against people and then trying to replace them illegally with friends or family.

Racism is where Tan employed people baseds on their race or colour to run the club when they had no experience, skills or qualifications to do so. Then when it all went wrong he did not balme them but everyone else.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:20 am

abergblue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
abergblue wrote:Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.



i didnt realise nepotism was a crime.


Can you expand on this racism?


Nepotism is not a crime but it can open you up to claims of favouritsm and discrimination, especially when something goes wrong or allegations are made. Tan has done this by making accusations against people and then trying to replace them illegally with friends or family.

Racism is where Tan employed people baseds on their race or colour to run the club when they had no experience, skills or qualifications to do so. Then when it all went wrong he did not balme them but everyone else.



doesnt sound like racism to me.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:20 am

abergblue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
abergblue wrote:Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.



i didnt realise nepotism was a crime.


Can you expand on this racism?


Nepotism is not a crime but it can open you up to claims of favouritsm and discrimination, especially when something goes wrong or allegations are made. Tan has done this by making accusations against people and then trying to replace them illegally with friends or family.

Racism is where Tan employed people baseds on their race or colour to run the club when they had no experience, skills or qualifications to do so. Then when it all went wrong he did not balme them but everyone else.


Mmmm he was not employed to run club only a dept in club! Proof he was racist other than fact he employed the guy? Or is everyone racists for not employing the most qualified person for a job regardless of colour/creed? :thumbup:
You I presume are basing all this on what's been said on here or in papers? Or do you have knowledge that all claimed about ali is true? :o

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:25 am

Tan is racist because he employed someone whose visa had expired (something that can be legally rectified)??

What a shocking post, do you even know what racism is?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:27 am

[qu lh_85"]
abergblue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:
abergblue wrote:Could the government now investigate Tan for employing illegal immigrants as this bloke had no work permit?
Tan talks about corruption and racism but then does the same himself. Although he does not say things in a private conversation (allegedly) but physically does the illegal and discrimination stuff - employs illegal immigrants without work permits and people with no expirience of the jobs or the skills required, but employed on their ethnicity.



i didnt realise nepotism was a crime.


Can you expand on this racism?


Nepotism is not a crime but it can open you up to claims of favouritsm and discrimination, especially when something goes wrong or allegations are made. Tan has done this by making accusations against people and then trying to replace them illegally with friends or family.

Racism is where Tan employed people baseds on their race or colour to run the club when they had no experience, skills or qualifications to do so. Then when it all went wrong he did not balme them but everyone else.



doesnt sound like racism to me.[/quote]

Its called discrimination but as he employed him after moody left and was a direct employment with no interviews there was no one to discriminate against! :laughing6:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:51 am

Sounds like Tans work to me. Get the painter and decorator to now make a statement. So that's how you say thank you to Tan for the promotion. Chemical Ali !! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:04 am

Chemical Ali :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: classic BANTER !!!!

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 11:52 am

Let's hope Malky gets sacked ASAP. :)

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:04 pm

Are you gutted that no one really gives two craps about Tans claims anymore and he is a manager again?.

Tan made himself looks like a dick again to the entire UK by calling Whelan a racist out of no where, after look at one comment. Labelling and possibly ruining Whelans life just because he is egomaniac knob that can't take the fact he is hated from top to bottom of the football pyramid.

Ludicrous to call him a "racist chairman". He is a child.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:06 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:Are you gutted that no one really gives two craps about Tans claims anymore and he is a manager again?.

Tan made himself looks like a dick again to the entire UK by calling Whelan a racist out of no where, after look at one comment. Labelling and possibly ruining Whelans life just because he is egomaniac knob that can't take the fact he is hated from top to bottom of the football pyramid.

Ludicrous to call him a "racist chairman". He is a child.


Who is this aimed at?

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:07 pm

You.

It is fair enough to dislike Mackay. That is your opinon.

But I think Mackay will be around the english football league longer than tan will.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:08 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:You.

It is fair enough to dislike Mackay. That is your opinon.

But I think Mackay will be around the english football league longer than tan will.


Well I am not gutted no but I still don't understand how some tools can't put agendas aside and accept Malky is wrong and stop having a cream pie in their pants thinking he's a hero when he tarnished the club just like Tan and yes it is a different extent how much they tarnished club but he made you, me and the whole supporters of Cardiff City look like mugs and some are to blind to see it.

I think the televised interview showed what a complete tw*t Malky is.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:14 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:You.

It is fair enough to dislike Mackay. That is your opinon.

But I think Mackay will be around the english football league longer than tan will.


Well I am not gutted no but I still don't understand how some tools can't put agendas aside and accept Malky is wrong and stop having a cream pie in their pants thinking he's a hero when he tarnished the club just like Tan and yes it is a different extent how much they tarnished club but he made you, me and the whole supporters of Cardiff City look like mugs and some are to blind to see it.

I think the televised interview showed what a complete tw*t Malky is.


:laughing6: :laughing6: :laughing6:

Brilliant.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:44 pm

Vinny Tan,s red and white CIRCUS :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 2:57 pm

DandoCCFC wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:You.

It is fair enough to dislike Mackay. That is your opinon.

But I think Mackay will be around the english football league longer than tan will.


Well I am not gutted no but I still don't understand how some tools can't put agendas aside and accept Malky is wrong and stop having a cream pie in their pants thinking he's a hero when he tarnished the club just like Tan and yes it is a different extent how much they tarnished club but he made you, me and the whole supporters of Cardiff City look like mugs and some are to blind to see it.

I think the televised interview showed what a complete tw*t Malky is.


Tan has publically humiliated the club on purpose a number of times. Dragging us through so much shit we will be a laughing stock as long as he is the owner.

Mackay sent a few risque text messages

They are not comparable AT. FACKING. ALL.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:11 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:
DandoCCFC wrote:
Depressed Blue wrote:You.

It is fair enough to dislike Mackay. That is your opinon.

But I think Mackay will be around the english football league longer than tan will.


Well I am not gutted no but I still don't understand how some tools can't put agendas aside and accept Malky is wrong and stop having a cream pie in their pants thinking he's a hero when he tarnished the club just like Tan and yes it is a different extent how much they tarnished club but he made you, me and the whole supporters of Cardiff City look like mugs and some are to blind to see it.

I think the televised interview showed what a complete tw*t Malky is.


Tan has publically humiliated the club on purpose a number of times. Dragging us through so much shit we will be a laughing stock as long as he is the owner.

Mackay sent a few risque text messages

They are not comparable AT. FACKING. ALL.



Tan did it on purpose? Weired idea must say, no defence for malky txts were not risque at all, if anyone sent t txt like that they would immediately be sacked for gross misconduct! Hence he dropped unfair dismissal case against tan! You are downplaying malky while up playing tan? Wonder why? :thumbup:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:32 pm

I stand by what I said previously, what Mackay said was no worse than what most people say on a regular basis.

He was incredibly stupid to do it on a works phone. His stupidity is where I will criticise him, not the actual texts.

I say risque things with my friends. Am I bad person? No. I have a functioning brain and my own thoughts, I can say whatever I want in private and I know right from wrong.

That is the difference between being a horrible person and not. The ability to realise when to say something in private and to speak so you don't insult people. Mackay said it in private.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:34 pm

I'm downplaying Tan because he is a massive bellend that is killing this club by the second.

The red stand is shit, the red kit is shit, the badge is crap, the atmosphere is diabolical and we are losing loyal fans by the game. Or are you happy with the way the club is currently going?.

I see only one reason to defend tan. Money.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:34 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:I'm downplaying Tan because he is a massive bellend that is killing this club by the second.

The red stand is shit, the red kit is shit, the badge is crap, the atmosphere is diabolical and we are losing loyal fans by the game. Or are you happy with the way the club is currently going?.

I see only one reason to defend tan. Money.


No one is defending Tan's running the club, the rebrand or whatever but none of that excuses what Malky did in the slightest. If you say racist stuff to your friends that's up to you but some of us have common decency and dislike such things.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 4:51 pm

Depressed Blue wrote:I stand by what I said previously, what Mackay said was no worse than what most people say on a regular basis.

He was incredibly stupid to do it on a works phone. His stupidity is where I will criticise him, not the actual texts.

I say risque things with my friends. Am I bad person? No. I have a functioning brain and my own thoughts, I can say whatever I want in private and I know right from wrong.

That is the difference between being a horrible person and not. The ability to realise when to say something in private and to speak so you don't insult people. Mackay said it in private.


Ffs malky was refering to people under his charge! What part of calling people he manages dirogratory names about their race ok? Because that's what you are saying it's OK as wasn't to their faces? :o how many people are forced to resign because they sent e-mail or txt in private calling someone names ect ect it wasn't to their faces but about them? Get real why did he drop 7m claim? If nothing was said :thumbup:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:43 pm

RFMH wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Tan's sons friend launching complaint to support Tan shocker. I thought Ali replaced Moody as head of recruitment anyway so how can Ali accuse Moody of calling him that name while at our club?


He was a painter at the club or some random job (or something on work experience?) wasn't he before getting that promotion

Seems odd, you'd figure, as a friend of Tan, it'd all be in the initial report.


Spot on :thumbright:

Also his Father is Tans good friend, its all now becoming more than ridiculous and the Tan circus never ends.

Tan just wont let us enjoy our football, he should concentrate on running our football club. :thumbright: :bluescarf:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:44 pm

wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


It certainly is Wez, Spot on :thumbright:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:51 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


It certainly is Wez, Spot on :thumbright:




how can you seriously believe that?

even if tan does have a personal vendetta against malky i cant really blame him. and as far as depressed blues comment about weve all done worse/the same etc.... that may well be correct, i know i have, but not about my boss or the people i work with. #

People want to defend malky just because they hate tan, the two are completely seperate. ON THIS... tan is correct

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:07 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:It's all tans fault ,bla bla


It certainly is Wez, Spot on :thumbright:




how can you seriously believe that?

even if tan does have a personal vendetta against malky i cant really blame him. and as far as depressed blues comment about weve all done worse/the same etc.... that may well be correct, i know i have, but not about my boss or the people i work with. #

People want to defend malky just because they hate tan, the two are completely seperate. ON THIS... tan is correct


On this one Paul, it was a personal joke to Wez.

But Tan has become so obsessed with Malky, that he is once again making our club look foolish as City are brought up every week,but nothing positive by Tan.

And yes I despise Tan and want him out ASAP :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 6:25 pm

agree on wanting him out, thats all im afraid though :lol:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:30 pm

paulh_85 wrote:agree on wanting him out, thats all im afraid though :lol:


Fair enough :lol:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:35 pm

What's wrong with the nickname has every c**t lost their sense of humour? :lol:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:agree on wanting him out, thats all im though :lol:


Fair enough :lol:


Thought latest complaint was from the decorator? Or is he & tan one and same person? :o
And how new Is this complaint or is it part of investigation already underway? questions questions but no answers well none that are verified! :old:

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:47 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:agree on wanting him out, thats all im though :lol:


Fair enough :lol:


Thought latest complaint was from the decorator? Or is he & tan one and same person? :o
And how new Is this complaint or is it part of investigation already underway? questions questions but no answers well none that are verified! :old:


Allan, Sadly Tans mad circus continues at the expense of our Club.

Re: ' Malky Mackay and Iain Moody hit by new race claims '

Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:35 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
paulh_85 wrote:agree on wanting him out, thats all im though :lol:


Fair enough :lol:


Thought latest complaint was from the decorator? Or is he & tan one and same person? :o
And how new Is this complaint or is it part of investigation already underway? questions questions but no answers well none that are verified! :old:


Allan, Sadly Tans mad circus continues at the expense of our Club.


is it just papers looking for a story annis like i said is this new or old stuff? after all nothing was said by tan this time! unfortunately we will be subject to this until fa get fingers out and resolve things one way or other? :thumbup: