Vincent Tan: Says " Dave Whelan is a racist "

I don't know whether whelan is a racist or not, but I know tan is a c#nt

he certainly is and many more times over

It is usually the politically correct white people who constantly accuse people of being racist, often creating a problem where one doesn't exist. I don't think Whelan said anything that was meant to be racist, but everyone just jumping on the bandwagon. I don't think Malky is racist either, just a bit silly and should have known better than to do something that could lead to all the accusations. I think with all the political correctness and health & safety going on in this country, I'd better spend my life indoors wearing a gag.

I'm told that Swansealad also likes to spend time indoors wearing a gag.

Tans right he is, as are a great number of this board. Crying white people are hilarious.

"This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager," Tan told BBC Sport's David Ornstein

This is going to be interesting.

He's never going to let it go, and Whelan has made it worse, this will go on and on and on, I'm bored already, give him a break FFS

Ye whelan is worse because he thinks it is okay.

Tan was right in sacking Malky, not so much for the so called racist and homophobic texts but his transfer dealings and not being up to scratch premiership management skills . However Tan is doing my f*cking head in now! He's like a dog with a bone and I believe when he's had enough of Cardiff City he will leave us in so much shit. The loss of money will hurt him but he won't care

Neither Malky or Dave Whelan are racist, it is PC going mad, I am Welsh, my parents were English, how many people on here have abused the English with their chanting, how many people abuse us, the scotts the Irish etc even the the Jacks down the down, How many people on here have racist jokes received or sent on their mobiles, does that mean you are Racist ? Malky did not abuse anyone, just private messages on his phone, he didn't go up to anyone and abuse them .

The bottom line is, tan has it in for Malky and won't let it go, only wish he would go, leave Malky alone and let him get on with what he is good at managing, something we haven't got anymore!!!!!!

Absolutely agree.since my first mobile phone jokes free about Irish \ gays \ blondes \ Essex girls \ the list goes on and on and on ..... Have been received, replied to and forwarded. Does that make me racist or sexist or homophobic or essex-ist or blond-ist? I have laughed at a joke about Jimmy saville just this week - does that make me a paedo? Or does that mean I condone savilles actions? Of course it f'ing doesn't.

This is nothing more than bitter and twisted tan trying anything he can against Mackay. Simple as that. Still jealous that malky got the love of the fans for the club getting promoted coz poor Vinny thought we should bow at his feet and kiss his nipples ( if we could find them under his belt!)

The guy is a king size bell-end that , by the way has no business talking about any other club. What the hell does it have to do with him who another club decides to select as a manager or what that clubs owner has to say? If tesco makes a decision on the new store manager what the flying f**k has that got to do with asda? f**k all that's what!

None of your f'ing business Tan - run your own club properly instead of worrying about others, you cock.

And before the PC brigade pounce on me - yes I know I have made 2 comments in the above paragraph about bellends and cocks but I would like to make it clear that I am not penis-ist in any way.

PS. I am currently sat on the left hand side of my sofa with a can of Murphy's in my hand, buy I am in no way discrimating against the right hand side of my sofa and other drinks brands.

PPS - Tan just f**k off!

I don't believe Malky is racist, he just made a huge error of judgement and got caught.

I don't think Whelan is racist, he is from a generation that used words that are totally inappropriate now. Political correctness makes them a little bit ignorant but not racist. There's a difference between somebody talking publicly in a reckless manner, not giving a damn about what they say or who they might affend as opposed to somebody trying to have a conversation and struggling to use the right words.

Tan on the other hand should butt out, he has played his cards and awaits the F A decision on Malky, what goes on at Wigan is nothing to do with him. When I saw the story on the BBC, I thought 'here we go again'

Neither Malky or Dave Whelan are racist, it is PC going mad, I am Welsh, my parents were English, how many people on here have abused the English with their chanting, how many people abuse us, the scotts the Irish etc even the the Jacks down the down, How many people on here have racist jokes received or sent on their mobiles, does that mean you are Racist ? Malky did not abuse anyone, just private messages on his phone, he didn't go up to anyone and abuse them .

The bottom line is, tan has it in for Malky and won't let it go, only wish he would go, leave Malky alone and let him get on with what he is good at managing, something we haven't got anymore!!!!!!

Absolutely agree.since my first mobile phone jokes free about Irish \ gays \ blondes \ Essex girls \ the list goes on and on and on ..... Have been received, replied to and forwarded. Does that make me racist or sexist or homophobic or essex-ist or blond-ist? I have laughed at a joke about Jimmy saville just this week - does that make me a paedo? Or does that mean I condone savilles actions? Of course it f'ing doesn't.

This is nothing more than bitter and twisted tan trying anything he can against Mackay. Simple as that. Still jealous that malky got the love of the fans for the club getting promoted coz poor Vinny thought we should bow at his feet and kiss his nipples ( if we could find them under his belt!)

The guy is a king size bell-end that , by the way has no business talking about any other club. What the hell does it have to do with him who another club decides to select as a manager or what that clubs owner has to say? If tesco makes a decision on the new store manager what the flying f**k has that got to do with asda? f**k all that's what!

None of your f'ing business Tan - run your own club properly instead of worrying about others, you cock.

And before the PC brigade pounce on me - yes I know I have made 2 comments in the above paragraph about bellends and cocks but I would like to make it clear that I am not penis-ist in any way.

PS. I am currently sat on the left hand side of my sofa with a can of Murphy's in my hand, buy I am in no way discrimating against the right hand side of my sofa and other drinks brands.

PPS - Tan just f**k off!

Awesome!
Best post I've read for ages.

I don't often add to these debates, but Tan's comments have left me raging.

Whelan says Jews like money and he's a racist.

Tan shows a complete disregard for our club's culture, history and tradition by changing us from blue to red.

He's a complete and utter hypocrite!!

If he was allowed to buy countries, would he change them too? Make the people speak a different language because he didn't like their native tongue?

Tan, you're worse than a racist! Respect our culture and tradition! What you have done is far worse than anything Malky or Whelan has done. Take a good look at yourself before you try to discredit other men who are far more honourable than you. I have zero respect for you.

I just wish Tan would f**k off for good.

Tan doesn't give a shite about Jewish or Chinese dignity........this is another personnel attack at Malky and I'm sick of hearing about it.

TAN F**K OFF

Tan is Chinese, Malky called him a chink! Dignity and face is everything to Tan!

I don't agree with him always coming out with an attack, he should stay quiet, but what he's said is right!

Tan is Malaysian not Chinese that's why we are sponsored by visit Malaysia!

Regardless the guy is a Kunt

Neither Malky or Dave Whelan are racist, it is PC going mad, I am Welsh, my parents were English, how many people on here have abused the English with their chanting, how many people abuse us, the scotts the Irish etc even the the Jacks down the down, How many people on here have racist jokes received or sent on their mobiles, does that mean you are Racist ? Malky did not abuse anyone, just private messages on his phone, he didn't go up to anyone and abuse them .

The bottom line is, tan has it in for Malky and won't let it go, only wish he would go, leave Malky alone and let him get on with what he is good at managing, something we haven't got anymore!!!!!!

Absolutely agree.since my first mobile phone jokes free about Irish \ gays \ blondes \ Essex girls \ the list goes on and on and on ..... Have been received, replied to and forwarded. Does that make me racist or sexist or homophobic or essex-ist or blond-ist? I have laughed at a joke about Jimmy saville just this week - does that make me a paedo? Or does that mean I condone savilles actions? Of course it f'ing doesn't.

This is nothing more than bitter and twisted tan trying anything he can against Mackay. Simple as that. Still jealous that malky got the love of the fans for the club getting promoted coz poor Vinny thought we should bow at his feet and kiss his nipples ( if we could find them under his belt!)

The guy is a king size bell-end that , by the way has no business talking about any other club. What the hell does it have to do with him who another club decides to select as a manager or what that clubs owner has to say? If tesco makes a decision on the new store manager what the flying f**k has that got to do with asda? f**k all that's what!

None of your f'ing business Tan - run your own club properly instead of worrying about others, you cock.

And before the PC brigade pounce on me - yes I know I have made 2 comments in the above paragraph about bellends and cocks but I would like to make it clear that I am not penis-ist in any way.

PS. I am currently sat on the left hand side of my sofa with a can of Murphy's in my hand, buy I am in no way discrimating against the right hand side of my sofa and other drinks brands.

PPS - Tan just f**k off!

Exactly what I said the other day. How many comedians have you seen tell jokes about these things and we laugh. It doesn't make us bad people. Too many load mouth hypocrites on here on their high horses!

I just wish Tan would f**k off for good.

Tan doesn't give a shite about Jewish or Chinese dignity........this is another personnel attack at Malky and I'm sick of hearing about it.

TAN F**K OFF

Tan is Chinese, Malky called him a chink! Dignity and face is everything to Tan!

I don't agree with him always coming out with an attack, he should stay quiet, but what he's said is right!

Tan is Malaysian not Chinese that's why we are sponsored by visit Malaysia!

Regardless the guy is a Kunt

I think his parents are chinese

I had a chinky tonight, oops sorry Mr.Tan I meant I had a Chinese

I had a chinky tonight, oops sorry Mr.Tan I meant I had a Chinese

I'm having one tomorrow night

I had a chinky tonight, oops sorry Mr.Tan I meant I had a Chinese

I'm having one tomorrow night

Racists! You should never be allowed to work again!

Tan is sticking up for the club on this situation and people who are backing Whelan over Tan in this situation are an embarrassment and no supporter of this club.

Tan is sticking up for the club on this situation and people who are backing Whelan over Tan in this situation are an embarrassment and no supporter of this club.

Wrong. Tan is sticking up for himself. What have Wigan done to threaten our club exactly? Malky was a free agent and Dave Whelan has taken a punt on him. That's Whelan's choice, he knew the backlash appointing Malky would bring him and Tan should not get involved and leave Whelan deal with it, so why isn't he? Because Tan has a personal vendetta against Malky and won't let it lie. Tan's playground tantrums will only disrupt our club even further. Tan should shut up and wait for the FA to finish their investigation.

All Tan's antics are doing is disrupting our club, disrupting Wigan's club and disrupting the FA's investigation even further. Tan is hell bent on taking shots at Malky at every opportunity and using his wealth and contacts to manipulate people into backing his crusade to dig up something on Malky to nail him at any cost. And Tan is doing this for himself, not for anyone else, not for our club, just for himself.

Tan is sticking up for the club on this situation and people who are backing Whelan over Tan in this situation are an embarrassment and no supporter of this club.

Wrong. Tan is sticking up for himself. What have Wigan done to threaten our club exactly? Malky was a free agent and Dave Whelan has taken a punt on him. That's Whelan's choice, he knew the backlash appointing Malky would bring him and Tan should not get involved and leave Whelan deal with it, so why isn't he? Because Tan has a personal vendetta against Malky and won't let it lie. Tan's playground tantrums will only disrupt our club even further. Tan should shut up and wait for the FA to finish their investigation.

All Tan's antics are doing is disrupting our club, disrupting Wigan's club and disrupting the FA's investigation even further. Tan is hell bent on taking shots at Malky at every opportunity and using his wealth and contacts to manipulate people into backing his crusade to dig up something on Malky to nail him at any cost. And Tan is doing this for himself, not for anyone else, not for our club, just for himself.

Ross, I suggest you look at Lord Triesman's very considered comments today and just maybe) think again on what you say, as it might be claimed that YOU have a "personal vendetta" against Tan; a man you have never actually met!

Here is part of what he (a senior Lawyer) said:


Lord Triesman, who was Football Association chairman from 2008-10, told Sky Sports News HQ that Whelan's comments should be thoroughly investigated.

"I'm glad he's apologised - it's quite right that he should," he said. "But I don't think that means the FA can simply say 'that's it.' They should investigate and they should do it quickly - not one of these processes that takes forever and no-one knows when it is going to come to a conclusion.

"It should be done quickly and if they find that the evidence is there he should be found guilty of having brought the game into disrepute. They are going to have to work out the severity of the punishment. I think that for the owner of a major club to make comments of that kind sends a very serious message out about the state of the attitude.

"The FA needs to counter-balance that with an equally serious response."


You should also consider that Adam Brown has a far bigger agenda than you do and (unlike yours, in fairness) it isn't in any way, shape or form in the best interests of Cardiff City Football club or its supporters. That is abundantly clear and your unwittingly smug response (quote) "Racists! You should never work again! " (unqote) only make you look as 'supporting' him, his derogatory remarks and his negativity towards this club as a whole!

As a former (albeit failed) politician, Adam should know far better than to 'joke' like that; particularly given the variety of the community he so disappointingly represented

Have no doubt that Adam Brown doesn't really give a flying fig for Vincent Tan or Cardiff City FC beyond either (or both) being tools with which to drive his personal and oft bitter agenda(s) forward

Your thoughts on Vincent Tan and what YOU believe he has done to Cardiff City Football Club are well-documented, but there are times when you simply need to look at the wider picture; and this IMHO is one such occasion!

"All I was trying to say was that Jewish people are very similar to the English people in the desire to work hard and get money. I didn't think I did anything wrong in that."

And what about the Welsh, Scots and Irish ? Second class citizens us

I don't often add to these debates, but Tan's comments have left me raging.

Whelan says Jews like money and he's a racist.

Tan shows a complete disregard for our club's culture, history and tradition by changing us from blue to red.

He's a complete and utter hypocrite!!

If he was allowed to buy countries, would he change them too? Make the people speak a different language because he didn't like their native tongue?

Tan, you're worse than a racist! Respect our culture and tradition! What you have done is far worse than anything Malky or Whelan has done. Take a good look at yourself before you try to discredit other men who are far more honourable than you. I have zero respect for you.

Spot on.

The Herald Scotland

Vincent Tan: 'A racist chairman has hired a racist manager'
Steve Nailor

Saturday 22 November 2014

Dave Whelan, the Wigan Athletic owner who was yesterday labelled "a racist" by Cardiff chairman Vincent Tan, faces the prospect of a lengthy Football Association ban.

The appointment of Malky Mackay at Wigan has brought a cloud over the club and its owner Dave Whelan, due to his remarks in defence of the Scot.

The appointment of Malky Mackay at Wigan has brought a cloud over the club and its owner Dave Whelan, due to his remarks in defence of the Scot.

Whelan's comments about Jewish and Chinese people, made in a newspaper interview in which he was defending his decision to hire former Cardiff manager Mackay, have led to a widespread backlash.

Mackay was hired despite being under investigation for allegedly sending racist and anti-semitic texts, but Whelan responded to criticism by telling The Guardian: "I think Jewish people do chase money more than everybody else."

The 77-year-old also told the newspaper he did not view the word "chink" as offensive, and said that he had been told by senior figures that "nothing will come" of the FA's investigation into Mackay.

Malaysian businessman Tan, who sacked Mackay in December, reacted angrily to the latest development, saying: "This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager. I think he insulted the dignity of all Jewish people. I think he insulted the dignity of Chinese."

Whelan later apologised, but the FA says its investigation into his comments will be treated "as a priority". English football's governing body has written to Whelan, giving him three days to respond. Earlier this week, the FA upheld a four-month ban on a county FA official for using overtly sexist language.

Wigan said the club would not comment in response to Tan's remarks, but both Whelan and Mackay have denied being racist.

The Wigan owner said: "I would never, ever insult a Jewish person. I have got hundreds and hundreds of Jewish friends. I would never upset [Jewish people] because I hold them in the highest regard.

"The Chinese community - again, I've got loads of Chinese friends. I would never insult the Chinese. I know Malky Mackay insulted them and they take that name seriously. He apologised to them and I hope they accept that.

"If anyone takes offence to anything I have said, please accept my sincere apology."

Whelan faces a critical situation at Wigan after two sponsors, kitchen firm Premier Range and sports drink company iPro Sport, announced they are to terminate their deals with the club due to the appointment of Mackay.

The Scot is himself the subject of an FA investigation for sending allegedly racist text messages to Iain Moody, his former head of recruitment at Cardiff.

Meanwhile, the main representative body of British Jews called Whelan's comments "outrageous" and said that his apology is "half-hearted".

The Board of Deputies of British Jews' vice-president Jonathan Arkush said in a statement: "His half-hearted apology does not go far enough. You cannot insult a whole group of people, and then say, 'I would never insult them', and hope that's okay.

"We need to see a proper apology and full recognition of the offence caused. Whelan, in his role as chair of a football club, has a responsibility to set the tone for both his players and supporters. Racism and anti- Semitism will prevail on and off the pitch if it's acceptable and unchallenged in the boardroom.

"We will be taking up the matter with the Football Association and Kick It Out."

Tan accuses Wigan chairman Whelan, manager Mackay of being racists
English.news.cn 2014-11-22

LONDON, Nov. 21 (Xinhua) -- Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan has accused Wigan counterpart Dave Whelan and newly-appointed manager Malky Mackay of being racists.

The Malaysian businessman, who is a Chinese, criticized Whelan for using derogatory comments about Jews and the word "chink" in an interview with a national newspaper.

Whelan has denied being racist, but Tan said in an interview with the BBC: "I think he insulted the dignity of all Jewish people. I think he insulted the dignity of Chinese."

He also criticized Mackay, who was sacked by him last season but was appointed as Wigan boss this week.

The Scot is still under investigation by the Football Association following allegations he made racist, sexist and homophobic comments in text messages and emails sent while he was in charge of Cardiff.

"This is a racist chairman hiring a racist manager," Tan said. "I hope that stops at two racists in Wigan, not snowballing to 2, 000 or 20,000 racists in Wigan."

Tan also said there are more revelations to come surrounding Mackay's time at Cardiff.

"Mr. Whelan and Wigan do not know yet what more is coming for this man they have just hired," he said. "They will, I believe, regret hiring him."

Tan added, "The fact is he's a leader of a big football club, he's sending the wrong message to the followers and supporters in the club, he's telling them it's all right to be a racist.

"Do you think that is proper? So I am asking whether he is fit and proper to be chairman of a football club in the UK for what he has said.

"I think the FA should take action, but I'll leave it to the FA. "

"I think the world is watching what the FA will do. Will it be a regulator on football matters with teeth or a toothless regulator?

The 77-year-old Whelan used the word "chink" in his interview with an English newspaper on Thursday and also said that "Jewish people chase money more than everybody else".

Whelan later apologized for remarks but insisted he was misquoted and did not intend any racial slight.

The FA issued a statement on Friday saying it had opened an investigation into Whelan's comments.

So it looks like Tan has stolen the show again and brought everything that is happening at Wigan on to our door step once again.

And some say on here, why do I mention Tan or Malky?

Lets be honest not a week goes by without Tans circus again stealing the pathetic show.

I hate racism but Tan is making yet again a mountain out of a mole hill.

Soon all us Welshmen will have a case for discrimination by being called sheep shaggers.

So it looks like Tan has stolen the show again and brought everything that is happening at Wigan on to our door step once again.

And some say on here, why do I mention Tan or Malky?

Lets be honest not a week goes by without Tans circus again stealing the pathetic show.

I hate racism but Tan is making yet again a mountain out of a mole hill.

He is a wanker........and he has been a wanker since the very first day.

Neither Malky or Dave Whelan are racist, it is PC going mad, I am Welsh, my parents were English, how many people on here have abused the English with their chanting, how many people abuse us, the scotts the Irish etc even the the Jacks down the down, How many people on here have racist jokes received or sent on their mobiles, does that mean you are Racist ? Malky did not abuse anyone, just private messages on his phone, he didn't go up to anyone and abuse them .

The bottom line is, tan has it in for Malky and won't let it go, only wish he would go, leave Malky alone and let him get on with what he is good at managing, something we haven't got anymore!!!!!!

Absolutely agree.since my first mobile phone jokes free about Irish \ gays \ blondes \ Essex girls \ the list goes on and on and on ..... Have been received, replied to and forwarded. Does that make me racist or sexist or homophobic or essex-ist or blond-ist? I have laughed at a joke about Jimmy saville just this week - does that make me a paedo? Or does that mean I condone savilles actions? Of course it f'ing doesn't.

This is nothing more than bitter and twisted tan trying anything he can against Mackay. Simple as that. Still jealous that malky got the love of the fans for the club getting promoted coz poor Vinny thought we should bow at his feet and kiss his nipples ( if we could find them under his belt!)

The guy is a king size bell-end that , by the way has no business talking about any other club. What the hell does it have to do with him who another club decides to select as a manager or what that clubs owner has to say? If tesco makes a decision on the new store manager what the flying f**k has that got to do with asda? f**k all that's what!

None of your f'ing business Tan - run your own club properly instead of worrying about others, you cock.

And before the PC brigade pounce on me - yes I know I have made 2 comments in the above paragraph about bellends and cocks but I would like to make it clear that I am not penis-ist in any way.

PS. I am currently sat on the left hand side of my sofa with a can of Murphy's in my hand, buy I am in no way discrimating against the right hand side of my sofa and other drinks brands.

PPS - Tan just f**k off!

Exactly what I said the other day. How many comedians have you seen tell jokes about these things and we laugh. It doesn't make us bad people. Too many load mouth hypocrites on here on their high horses!

Another thing to think about, is how many times is tan going to use the racism line?

Whelan, Mackay, the LMA and I seem to remember he called the UK press 'a little bit racist' a short while ago.. Who does the guy think he is Martin Luther King fighting the good cause?

I am sure we as supporters of Cardiff city will be called racist by him in the near future - you mark my words. When he backs out of the club the 'r' word and how we have refused to accept his culture (red) so he has been forced to leave and he will label this as racism. Guaranteed.

Tan - you are boring now, just f**k off and leave us alone.

Vincent Tan should start a worldwide seminar on the importance of respecting peoples' values and traditions

Total hypocrisy. Sell up and please just allow the people of S.Wales to have their club back

Vincent Tan should start a worldwide seminar on the importance of respecting peoples' values and traditions

Total hypocrisy. Sell up and please just allow the people of S.Wales to have their club back

Correct Thomas

The man himself has taken away our club bit by bit and destroyed our identity.