" Still think we got rid of Ole too soon? "

Personlly, I really think so. The fitness level might be an issue, but so far I haven´t seen any facts about this except Slade´s seemingly exaggerated statements. It´s a long season, and an athlete planning for the olympics, will not be in his best shape half a year before.

Yes, Burnley got promoted with hard work and little talent, but look where they are now.

Ole was very ambitious the way he wanted the team to play, and he didn´t succeed in making it gel in such a short time. But he was planning for the future. Planning for a life in the Premier League when buying players. Spending time with the development team. Looking for young talented players with potential. Highly rated by his players who believed in his project, and according to Carlos, also highly rated among the other staff.

If you look at Gaal´s career as a manager, the typical picture has been a slow start for the teams he has been managing, but the teams have grown very strong afterwards. It takes a week to build a hut, a big longer to build a castle.

Has Tan ordered a hut?

I've just looked back at our start to the season under Ole and I really can't help thinking some of the flack he gets on the board us a tad unfair.

He was after all trying to effect a real seed change in the way we play. Such a major move away from lump it forward football was never going to be easy and was always going to take time.

Furthermore I remember clearly how thrilled we all were when he was signing big name players and getting them at a really cut price. His name and past contacts gave us a shoe in when it came to attracting decent players and I can't see Russell Slade attracting anywhere near that kind of quality.

Nor was Ole afraid to haul off a player and make changes when needed. I remember everyone around me singing his praises when he made a couple of half time subs in one of his first home games to affect a result in our favour. I also would argue with anyone who tries to point the finger towards his lack of professionalism. I thought he was very mature in dealing with Tan, players (even underperforming ones) and spectators alike.


Our results in August read

Draw
Win
Win
Win
Lost
Win
Draw

I know some of them were cup games but if you take the points per game as if they were League games we'd have had 14 out of a possible 21.

Compare that to Slades

Win
Win
Lost
Win
Lost
Draw

That's 10 out of a possible 18. If you include the loss at Blackpool (when Slade was in all but name in charge) then that's just 10 from a possible 21.

For me it's a real shame he didn't get a lot more time to work things through.

Are you Ole's agent???

Ole was garbage! Clueless with tactics! Clueless with team selection! I don't rate Slade much either! Tan has backed managers with cash but really should have splashed out after Ole and got a proven manager if he wanted promotion! Mid table team with ridiculous wages and increasing debt, playing in the wrong colour, different to all the fans colours in a stadium with a horrific sight of a red stand over towering a blue stadium! Fans wearing unofficial merchandise with a club that doesn't listen/respect there fans!

Nope.... defo not Ole's agent

Just a City fan with a sense of proportion and a view that changing Managers every five minutes isn't the best policy.

Too many fans jump on bandwagons, Tan out, Malky the Mighty, Ole doesn't know what he's doing, what Slade says I believe.

The list is endless!

There were loads of pointers that Ole's changes may have come good if we'd shown a bit more faith and patience.

Same as I believe that Daelhi and Guerra are two of our best prospects for getting some decent results.

I guess footballs a game of different viewpoints.

Nope.... defo not Ole's agent

Just a City fan with a sense of proportion and a view that changing Managers every five minutes isn't the best policy.

Too many fans jump on bandwagons, Tan out, Malky the Mighty, Ole doesn't know what he's doing, what Slade says I believe.

The list is endless!

There were loads of pointers that Ole's changes may have come good if we'd shown a bit more faith and patience.

Same as I believe that Daelhi and Guerra are two of our best prospects for getting some decent results.

I guess footballs a game of different viewpoints.

Fairplay, comedy gold that statement.

If we were going somewhere with ole he would of at least got the basics right on the pitch and he was far from it he needed to go.

Well I hope I'm proved wrong but I don't see anything from Slade yet to make me think it's better than it was under Ole.

Well I hope I'm proved wrong but I don't see anything from Slade yet to make me think it's better than it was under Ole.

One extreme to the next, we need a balance between the two and we might get somewhere.

Just checked the stats again for this season.

Ole played 10 lost 3

Slade played 6 lost 2, drawn 1

Which record looks best to you

I follow cardiff because Ole was your manager, so you could say I am biased in his favor.

What saddens me is that while he brought in a great squad (atleast I thought so at the time) with some excellent transfer business - he didn't produce good football nor results.

I don't agree with his replacement (Slade), but I agree that he had to go. At some point you need to show that the squad works, I never saw good football coming out of Ole's Cardiff side. When the results aren't good enough you look for positive trends in the game, they weren't there for me. Defensive trouble and collapses in too many games.

I think a big squad could work for a (top) championship team, and a rotational policy on some positions isn't as laughable as many think, but you need a great man manager to pull it off.

He's a great guy, but wasn't ready Cardiff.

I follow cardiff because Ole was your manager, so you could say I am biased in his favor.

What saddens me is that while he brought in a great squad (atleast I thought so at the time) with some excellent transfer business - he didn't produce good football nor results.

I don't agree with his replacement (Slade), but I agree that he had to go. At some point you need to show that the squad works, I never saw good football coming out of Ole's Cardiff side. When the results aren't good enough you look for positive trends in the game, they weren't there for me. Defensive trouble and collapses in too many games.

I think a big squad could work for a (top) championship team, and a rotational policy on some positions isn't as laughable as many think, but you need a great man manager to pull it off.

He's a great guy, but wasn't ready Cardiff.

I respect that view but interestingly we are now playing with lots of Ole's players. Take the back four of Brayford (not bought by Ole but certainly given his chance by him), Manga, Morrison and Fabio. These are widely considered to be our best back four. Up front Macheda and Le Fondra, both Ole's. The three players that a large section of our support are crying out for Guerra, Daelhi and Ravel are all Ole's.

The only point I'm making is that maybe Ole would have got there in the end, we just didn't show enough faith.

According to club sources all the players bought into his methods and were working hard to adapt. That just takes time and we didn't give it to him.

Where we are now is no further forward. Crap away from home, a tad lucky with our home wins, our better players looking like they may leave, a manager who says all the wrong things and backroom staff who couldn't crack it with amateur Welsh League clubs.

How is that moving forward?

Sorry, in my time watching Cardiff City, when you factor in the resources available, and his salary, Ole was by far the worst manager I've seen. His tactics, line ups and substitutions were absolutely bonkers and we were on the end of some right hammerings at times. It remains to be seen if Slade is much better but we were only going one way with Ole in charge.

Sorry, in my time watching Cardiff City, when you factor in the resources available, and his salary, Ole was by far the worst manager I've seen. His tactics, line ups and substitutions were absolutely bonkers and we were on the end of some right hammerings at times. It remains to be seen if Slade is much better but we were only going one way with Ole in charge.

I absolutely agree.
You can talk about stats all day long but Ole was out of his depth.
I hope he goes on to have a decent managerial career somewhere but for me he didn't have a clue.

If Ole's tactics and substitutions were so unbelievable then where does that leave Slade's decision to move Noone to full back (nearly costing us a win), bringing on Gabbidon at Birmingham and going all defensive when they'd just had a player sent off and the decision to have 3 centre backs on the bench leaving out flare players altogether and therefore possible match winners.

If Ole's tactics and substitutions were so unbelievable then where does that leave Slade's decision to move Noone to full back (nearly costing us a win), bringing on Gabbidon at Birmingham and going all defensive when they'd just had a player sent off and the decision to have 3 centre backs on the bench leaving out flare players altogether and therefore possible match winners.

But he's not talking about Slade is he? He's talking about Ole.
I'd watch those 'flare' players as well their liable to go up in flames!

If Ole's tactics and substitutions were so unbelievable then where does that leave Slade's decision to move Noone to full back (nearly costing us a win), bringing on Gabbidon at Birmingham and going all defensive when they'd just had a player sent off and the decision to have 3 centre backs on the bench leaving out flare players altogether and therefore possible match winners.

But he's not talking about Slade is he? He's talking about Ole.
I'd watch those 'flare' players as well their liable to go up in flames!

Lol

I know what i meant but my phones got a mind of its own.

Could still be true I suppose if you take the interpretation that flares have wide bottoms then Jones, Mecheda and Manga probably fit the bill.