VERY WORRYING AND LACK OF TACTICS/GOALS IS GOING TO COST US

I agree with you.

Not only have we got just one point form the four games you mention, we have not scored a goal in any of them!

David, Now thats even more worrying, yet Slade is making out were improving

Annis,If by improving he means we're not losing, I suppose he has a point.

I agree with most of the above posts and Annis, I also cannot believe Fabio was not fielded!!

The positive is a clean sheet but we have to remember Birmingham have been blunt at the front so maybe not such an achievement.

What has happened up front? We Started the season with 5 credible strikers so what's happened to the goals??

The goal was peppered but without accuracy. The keeper should have been tested a lot more.

I have no problem with "boring" patches in a game as long as they are due to efficient defence, but there still has to be excitement and ruthlessness at the sharp end.

Correct they were worse than blunt. I dont see it as a point gained.
I can accept boring patches if we win
Fabio, never should of been dropped,
I honestly dont know what Slade is doing up front?

Totally agree

I'm past worrying, simply resigned to a mediocre season nowhere near the playoffs. Under the current manager / coaches this won't improve next season either. Thinking about it more worryingly is next season once Slade has had a couple of transfer windows as I fear what could be coming our way and what we are about to let leave.

Ive always said I would totally Judge Slade after 12 games,but so far what your saying its sadly looking that way,but theres still time.

You're right there is time and I'd feel more positive if there were signs of a playing style developing that would reap future rewards. But nothing seems to be improving and I can't see how we have the coaches to improve our players and/or the style of play.

I know I keep saying it but Tan has made budget cuts in the wrong place by taking on Slade and a third rate coaching set up. Tan might be happy when he reads the accounts but not so much when he looks at the league table.

Tan is Clueless on football and our coaches have No experience, But we have time on our hands and the Championship is wide open, so lets bring some experience in NOW

I'm past worrying, simply resigned to a mediocre season nowhere near the playoffs. Under the current manager / coaches this won't improve next season either. Thinking about it more worryingly is next season once Slade has had a couple of transfer windows as I fear what could be coming our way and what we are about to let leave.

Ive always said I would totally Judge Slade after 12 games,but so far what your saying its sadly looking that way,but theres still time.

You're right there is time and I'd feel more positive if there were signs of a playing style developing that would reap future rewards. But nothing seems to be improving and I can't see how we have the coaches to improve our players and/or the style of play.

I know I keep saying it but Tan has made budget cuts in the wrong place by taking on Slade and a third rate coaching set up. Tan might be happy when he reads the accounts but not so much when he looks at the league table.

Tan is Clueless on football and our coaches have No experience, But we have time on our hands and the Championship is wide open, so lets bring some experience in NOW

This would make a huge difference.... We don't have the quality in the staff and this shows as they don't have the experience to come up with the ideas and make the changes where needed.


Here is a stat. In November 2012 we went top of championship and stayed there until may. We look a long way off this team, yet on paper we should be better..

I'm past worrying, simply resigned to a mediocre season nowhere near the playoffs. Under the current manager / coaches this won't improve next season either. Thinking about it more worryingly is next season once Slade has had a couple of transfer windows as I fear what could be coming our way and what we are about to let leave.

Ive always said I would totally Judge Slade after 12 games,but so far what your saying its sadly looking that way,but theres still time.

You're right there is time and I'd feel more positive if there were signs of a playing style developing that would reap future rewards. But nothing seems to be improving and I can't see how we have the coaches to improve our players and/or the style of play.

I know I keep saying it but Tan has made budget cuts in the wrong place by taking on Slade and a third rate coaching set up. Tan might be happy when he reads the accounts but not so much when he looks at the league table.

Tan is Clueless on football and our coaches have No experience, But we have time on our hands and the Championship is wide open, so lets bring some experience in NOW

Agreed, but can you see it happening?

I agree with most of the above posts and Annis, I also cannot believe Fabio was not fielded!!

The positive is a clean sheet but we have to remember Birmingham have been blunt at the front so maybe not such an achievement.

What has happened up front? We Started the season with 5 credible strikers so what's happened to the goals??

The goal was peppered but without accuracy. The keeper should have been tested a lot more.

I have no problem with "boring" patches in a game as long as they are due to efficient defence, but there still has to be excitement and ruthlessness at the sharp end.

Correct they were worse than blunt. I dont see it as a point gained.
I can accept boring patches if we win
Fabio, never should of been dropped,
I honestly dont know what Slade is doing up front?

Totally agree

I feel like shaking it by the neck!

It's like going out with a really hot date and getting a peck on the cheek at the end.

I'm past worrying, simply resigned to a mediocre season nowhere near the playoffs. Under the current manager / coaches this won't improve next season either. Thinking about it more worryingly is next season once Slade has had a couple of transfer windows as I fear what could be coming our way and what we are about to let leave.

Ive always said I would totally Judge Slade after 12 games,but so far what your saying its sadly looking that way,but theres still time.

You're right there is time and I'd feel more positive if there were signs of a playing style developing that would reap future rewards. But nothing seems to be improving and I can't see how we have the coaches to improve our players and/or the style of play.

I know I keep saying it but Tan has made budget cuts in the wrong place by taking on Slade and a third rate coaching set up. Tan might be happy when he reads the accounts but not so much when he looks at the league table.

Tan is Clueless on football and our coaches have No experience, But we have time on our hands and the Championship is wide open, so lets bring some experience in NOW

Agreed, but can you see it happening?

Honestly No

" VERY WORRYING AND LACK OF TACTICS/GOALS IS GOING TO COST US "

" My View today Borring first half and a lively second half,but for me just not good enough "

" My View/Opinion "

' Birmingham City 0 Cardiff City '0

Cardiff City Line up

#CardiffCity Starting XI: Marshall, Brayford, Turner, S. Morrison, Connolly, Pilkington, Whittingham, Gunnarsson, Noone, le Fondre & Macheda

#CardiffCity Substitutes: Moore, Fabio, Gabbidon, Ralls, Adeyemi, Kim & Maynard.

Approx 2,000 Cardiff Fans made this journey to cheer on the Bluebirds.

On paper without a doubt Cardiff should beat the current Birmingham team and beat them comfortable, before today's game, Birmingham were the lowest goal scorers in the Championship,scoring just 14 goals and on top of that,they had conceded 29 goals which other than Fulham,who had conceded 30,that's the worst record in the Division.

I could of fallen asleep in the first half was that dour and both teams looked like bottom half Championship teams.

The game reminded me of two clubs with nothing to play for, I was shocked to see Fabio dropped and thought the bench was weak, Gabbidon, Ralls, Kimbo, Adeyemi, Maynard and of course Fabio who I felt should have never have been dropped.

What really is now concerning me is our lack of goals away from home never mind we can't even win away.

Our last four always have been Blackpool, Millwall, Bolton and Birmingham. At the time were all at their lowest and we got one measly point from all four.


In the 41st minute we finally had a clear cut chance, Macheda hesitated and messed up a certain goal.

Like I say a boring first half.

Half time 0-0

Both teams in the second half went for each other and for twenty minutes it was end to end, in those minutes in the 62nd Birmingham had a goal disallowed for offside.

Macheda was taken off in the 64th minute and I thought he had an awful, replaced by Maynard who did no better. The game was wide open now and I felt it was anyone's game.

In the final ten minutes Birmingham took control of the game and in the 87th minute Birmingham missed a clear chance. 89th Mortison was involved in an off the ball incident, he received a yellow and the Brum player was sent off

With four mins of injury time to play City didn't even look like taking advantage of the extra man.

Finished 0-0 and I am a worried fan, am I on my own ?

Man of the match for me was Connolly.


For me the ref had an excellent game and probably even saved Cardiff on a couple of occasions

Well its the International break now and Russell Slade will hopefully have a full and fit squad to start with against Reading on Friday night 21st November at the Cardiff City Stadium, lets hope for no more injuries and those with current injuries are all ready to go. But even with a few injuries,there is enough talent out of 31 players to choose from.

4 of our 6 defeats have been 1-0 , games which could easily have gone the other way ( especially the Blackpool game. ) our inability to score away from home is difficult to understand. It is still early days for our manager yet, and hopefully the 2 weeks of the international break will give him the chance to establish an alternative formation to 442.

On the subject of Fabio, I'm not sure I would have dropped him today, but we did keep our first clean sheet for a while. Coincidence? The first priority of a good team is to stop the other team scoring, and I'd gladly sacrifice Fabio for regularly keeping the other teams out.

I know it's been said before, but there is very little difference in the teams in this division, and what goes around comes around. Bolton and Birmingham were not the pushovers they would have been 3 weeks ago, as they now have new managers in place. When we played Huddersfield earlier in the season, they were very poor and managerless, and we took advantage of that fact, but they are much improved now.

We may well end up in mid table, but we have the potential to finish at least in the top 6 and we are still far more likely to be a top half rather than a bottom half team.

I'm not a big fan of international football and normally hate these breaks, but this one has come at just the right time in my opinion.

We would av kept a clean sheet today if fabio had played. Unfair to drop he's been up there for man of match nominations countless times...

I'm past worrying, simply resigned to a mediocre season nowhere near the playoffs. Under the current manager / coaches this won't improve next season either. Thinking about it more worryingly is next season once Slade has had a couple of transfer windows as I fear what could be coming our way and what we are about to let leave.

Ive always said I would totally Judge Slade after 12 games,but so far what your saying its sadly looking that way,but theres still time.

You're right there is time and I'd feel more positive if there were signs of a playing style developing that would reap future rewards. But nothing seems to be improving and I can't see how we have the coaches to improve our players and/or the style of play.

I know I keep saying it but Tan has made budget cuts in the wrong place by taking on Slade and a third rate coaching set up. Tan might be happy when he reads the accounts but not so much when he looks at the league table.

Tan is Clueless on football and our coaches have No experience, But we have time on our hands and the Championship is wide open, so lets bring some experience in NOW

Agreed, but can you see it happening?

Honestly No

Nor me. f**k me I'm gonna need to drink a lot more to get through this season. Should be a good Christmas for the bars in the ground and canton

Its more worrying that the tactics aren't working. We playing like a mid table club. A long way off from promotion. No where near!!

Mike my worry was today, Slade could not change the game.
Also at the end Brum fans and their players celebrated like they had won,they are 2nd from bottom.
We cant keep dropping points.

I'm a lot more disappointed with our forwards and more specifically Le Fondre than I am in Slade. Our strikers are abysmal, where as Slade is exactly what I expected. He is doing an ok job, nothing remarkable but also not clueless like OGS. He is doing exactly what a lower level manager with 650 games under his belt and no real success in all that time would be expected. Dave Jones or Lennie Lawrence would be achieving exactly the same. I see us finishing mid table unless Slade has a pretty remarkable transfer window and brings In quality finishers and some leaders

Bluebird58 wrote

4 of our 6 defeats have been 1-0 , games which could easily have gone the other way ( especially the Blackpool game. ) our inability to score away from home is difficult to understand. It is still early days for our manager yet, and hopefully the 2 weeks of the international break will give him the chance to establish an alternative formation to 442.

On the subject of Fabio, I'm not sure I would have dropped him today, but we did keep our first clean sheet for a while. Coincidence? The first priority of a good team is to stop the other team scoring, and I'd gladly sacrifice Fabio for regularly keeping the other teams out.

I know it's been said before, but there is very little difference in the teams in this division, and what goes around comes around. Bolton and Birmingham were not the pushovers they would have been 3 weeks ago, as they now have new managers in place. When we played Huddersfield earlier in the season, they were very poor and managerless, and we took advantage of that fact, but they are much improved now.

We may well end up in mid table, but we have the potential to finish at least in the top 6 and we are still far more likely to be a top half rather than a bottom half team.

I'm not a big fan of international football and normally hate these breaks, but this one has come at just the right time in my opinion.


Forever Blue Wrote

Yes we have lost by the odd goals in some of those defeats, but we have failed to score in our last 4 away games at teams in the bottom 6

Fabio, I honestly cant understand? ?

I thought we were hard to beat until I went to Bolton

Yes we def have time on our hands

International break for once yes please

I'm past worrying, simply resigned to a mediocre season nowhere near the playoffs. Under the current manager / coaches this won't improve next season either. Thinking about it more worryingly is next season once Slade has had a couple of transfer windows as I fear what could be coming our way and what we are about to let leave.

Ive always said I would totally Judge Slade after 12 games,but so far what your saying its sadly looking that way,but theres still time.

You're right there is time and I'd feel more positive if there were signs of a playing style developing that would reap future rewards. But nothing seems to be improving and I can't see how we have the coaches to improve our players and/or the style of play.

I know I keep saying it but Tan has made budget cuts in the wrong place by taking on Slade and a third rate coaching set up. Tan might be happy when he reads the accounts but not so much when he looks at the league table.

Tan is Clueless on football and our coaches have No experience, But we have time on our hands and the Championship is wide open, so lets bring some experience in NOW

Agreed, but can you see it happening?

Honestly No

Nor me. f**k me I'm gonna need to drink a lot more to get through this season. Should be a good Christmas for the bars in the ground and canton

We would av kept a clean sheet today if fabio had played. Unfair to drop he's been up there for man of match nominations countless times...

Fabio, over all been outstanding this season

Its more worrying that the tactics aren't working. We playing like a mid table club. A long way off from promotion. No where near!!

Mike my worry was today, Slade could not change the game.
Also at the end Brum fans and their players celebrated like they had won,they are 2nd from bottom.
We cant keep dropping points.

I'm a lot more disappointed with our forwards and more specifically Le Fondre than I am in Slade. Our strikers are abysmal, where as Slade is exactly what I expected. He is doing an ok job, nothing remarkable but also not clueless like OGS. He is doing exactly what a lower level manager with 650 games under his belt and no real success in all that time would be expected. Dave Jones or Lennie Lawrence would be achieving exactly the same. I see us finishing mid table unless Slade has a pretty remarkable transfer window and brings In quality finishers and some leaders

Fair play to you, you said this from the day Slades name was mentioned

I am shocked so far,how bad our strikers have been,plat Guerra

I don't think we have the talent at our disposal. No one has been found out because he's so left footed.Macheda is just shit. Maynard is shit. Most of our players are operated. I was at the game too and I'm very disappointed.

The hell you on about? Are you pissed?
No one has been found out & most of our players are operated?
FFS.

I agree with most of the above posts and Annis, I also cannot believe Fabio was not fielded!!

The positive is a clean sheet but we have to remember Birmingham have been blunt at the front so maybe not such an achievement.

What has happened up front? We Started the season with 5 credible strikers so what's happened to the goals??

The goal was peppered but without accuracy. The keeper should have been tested a lot more.

I have no problem with "boring" patches in a game as long as they are due to efficient defence, but there still has to be excitement and ruthlessness at the sharp end.

Correct they were worse than blunt. I dont see it as a point gained.
I can accept boring patches if we win
Fabio, never should of been dropped,
I honestly dont know what Slade is doing up front?

Totally agree

I feel like shaking it by the neck!

It's like going out with a really hot date and getting a peck on the cheek at the end.

Haha well put!!

I have no faith in slade, a basic manager with a small Team mentality. His results will win some over initially but his decisions are waving huge red flags for me.

We would av kept a clean sheet today if fabio had played. Unfair to drop he's been up there for man of match nominations countless times...

Fabio, over all been outstanding this season

Fair play to you & I didn't see the Bolton game but wasn't he responsible for 2 of the goals? I only saw 1 of them & he left his marker like a schoolboy would.
Obviously he was dropped today because of his actual defending. Connolly brought in to defend, especially away from home, and we have a clean sheet!

We would av kept a clean sheet today if fabio had played. Unfair to drop he's been up there for man of match nominations countless times...

Fabio, over all been outstanding this season

Fair play to you & I didn't see the Bolton game but wasn't he responsible for 2 of the goals? I only saw 1 of them & he left his marker like a schoolboy would.
Obviously he was dropped today because of his actual defending. Connolly brought in to defend, especially away from home, and we have a clean sheet!

Harsh on fabio, That's y we need to defend collectively as a unit. Wingers double up with him help out your full backs. That doesn't happen with us and full backs are left exposed time and time again more do on the left as that's where we are weakest in midfield. Defenders get skinned that's football, but u could argue that the defeat is not just about the left back, the midfield should be controlling the game and we should be creating more in and around the final third.

Le fondre missed two sitters in recent weeks, milwall game was unforgivable for a striker, u could say he cost us that game yet he wasn't dropped.

2 blue I have to agree with u again. U always seem to make a lot of sense and slades decisions are alarming.

I have no faith in slade, a basic manager with a small Team mentality. His results will win some over initially but his decisions are waving huge red flags for me.

This ^^^^^

I was also at game yesterday and can hardly remember 1st half (nothing to do with lager) but all jokes aside we are looking very one dimensional and as alot of u has said they can't seem to change anything tactically. But ain't that why we should be having the likes of daehli, ravel, javi etc at least on bench. I know couple of injuries etc with them but come on Russell even if Scott young got issues with gurrea surely it's your call and surely he can see we need options to change things

I was also at game yesterday and can hardly remember 1st half (nothing to do with lager) but all jokes aside we are looking very one dimensional and as alot of u has said they can't seem to change anything tactically. But ain't that why we should be having the likes of daehli, ravel, javi etc at least on bench. I know couple of injuries etc with them but come on Russell even if Scott young got issues with gurrea surely it's your call and surely he can see we need options to change things

This

Slade has tried to demonstrate his authority by benching our most famous player. This could back fire.

Players like Joe Ralls buy into him, he is the new boss and if i was him I would make it obvious that "I can be your man".

We have players from three different managers. Marshall and Whitts; Turner, Noone, Gunnar and Ole's lot. Slade would never have been in the company of championship illuminati like Whitts and Marshall forget a Brazilian international, a future England player and a Norwegian who could be anything !!!!!!

Our problem is the strikers are not scoring and don't look deadly. Its obvious that there is no chemistry between Macheda and ALF and i don't believe Macheda is championship class, which worries me as our manager might try to identify with him.

I can't recall Jones and Alf playing as a 442, but how long ago was it that Jones played with a partner ?

The wingers on the wrong wing- don't get me started on that one, both turn inside into traffic

If you track back through previous posts there's loads of comments about an upcoming International break giving Slade time to make adjustments and get to grip with our problems.

It didn't happen then, so why the same optimism with this International break?

Whats really worrying thats he prepared to write off talented players that either have potential or experience and scored goals liga 1, or premiership or other leagues. There's very little creativity or trying to go past players, its knock it up the middle and pick up the second ball or knock it wide right and hope le fondre gets on to it. No wonder why Lennon says its predictable, what did we say about DJ no plan B. I think were going to be in trouble and we got players who expect better tactics and plans, and a management team who can't supply it. We need to have competition for places Macheda and le fondre need to feel there places are not nailed on that also includes the rest of the midfield. There's talent in the squad get a management team that gets them believing in it.

We would av kept a clean sheet today if fabio had played. Unfair to drop he's been up there for man of match nominations countless times...

Fabio, over all been outstanding this season

Fair play to you & I didn't see the Bolton game but wasn't he responsible for 2 of the goals? I only saw 1 of them & he left his marker like a schoolboy would.
Obviously he was dropped today because of his actual defending. Connolly brought in to defend, especially away from home, and we have a clean sheet!

Fabio, did make a couple of costly mistakes, but he battled and played better than 90% of the rest of the team that night

A clean sheet against the worse scorers in the Championship.

I was also at game yesterday and can hardly remember 1st half (nothing to do with lager) but all jokes aside we are looking very one dimensional and as alot of u has said they can't seem to change anything tactically. But ain't that why we should be having the likes of daehli, ravel, javi etc at least on bench. I know couple of injuries etc with them but come on Russell even if Scott young got issues with gurrea surely it's your call and surely he can see we need options to change things

Thank you, its true it was that dire the first half.

Whats really worrying thats he prepared to write off talented players that either have potential or experience and scored goals liga 1, or premiership or other leagues. There's very little creativity or trying to go past players, its knock it up the middle and pick up the second ball or knock it wide right and hope le fondre gets on to it. No wonder why Lennon says its predictable, what did we say about DJ no plan B. I think were going to be in trouble and we got players who expect better tactics and plans, and a management team who can't supply it. We need to have competition for places Macheda and le fondre need to feel there places are not nailed on that also includes the rest of the midfield. There's talent in the squad get a management team that gets them believing in it.

Midfield and forwards basically have no competition because he always starts with the same 4 in midfield and the same 2 up front
People used to say it was demoralising for players under OGS because he played everyone. Slades the exact opposite. With him they must feel whatever they do on the training pitch doesnt matter much they can't get a look he has decided on his starting XI and thats that.
No matter how disinterested Macheda looks, no matter how wasteful Le Fondre is, no matter how tired and uninspired Noone looks. Nobody else can get a look in ( apart from his son Ralls of course…). He seems incredibly rigid and stubborn about how he lines up, or maybe he just doesnt have any tricks up his sleeve. Which is super worrying because that means he doesnt know how to change his formation to accommodate other players who may be on song at any given time.

I thought daehli linked up well with fabio on left side against Huddersfield etc also guerra done well when he came on. So why can't his 442 include those 2 with 1 left wing and 1as 2nd striker? ?.?