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Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:11 am

Blue magic, he hasn't been missing them all season! He's played 5 games if you include Blackburn, he missed a few last week and has had a few wayward efforts but we are winning and he is getting chances, all for improvement but changing one player doesn't always improve the team as more to his game than a few chances he's missed. Must deliver soon, but he will! Onwards and upwards 3 wins from 4!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:48 pm

Just a matter of time..... He will score.

His work rate is excellent...

Newcastle spent big bucks on a striker. Nothing in his first 9 games, now he's scoring regularly. Just an example.


Partnerships take time. He got into two good positions yesterday with headers.

Lets not lower his morale any more and support our players.. :thumbup: We also got 3 pts if anyone missed it...

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Sun Nov 02, 2014 12:56 pm

No confidence. Goals bring confidence and he’s not scoring goals. Catch 22, striker’s nightmare :(

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:11 pm

An absolute joke of a thread. Le Fondre was very good yesterday, always making himself available, running the channels, linking the play, doing everything required from a striker apart from scoring really. He had no right to win the header to set up Macheda's goal. Some of you are clueless if you don't appreciate the contribution Le Fondre made yesterday. Unbelievable!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:32 pm

Ye drop him. That will make him a better player.

Not

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:40 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:An absolute joke of a thread. Le Fondre was very good yesterday, always making himself available, running the channels, linking the play, doing everything required from a striker apart from scoring really. He had no right to win the header to set up Macheda's goal. Some of you are clueless if you don't appreciate the contribution Le Fondre made yesterday. Unbelievable!


Correct & this blue magic is one of them. Some people just wear blinkers - no goals - so must be shit!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:29 am

Thought he was brilliant yesterday and deserved a goal.

Works tirelessly and does a lot of pressuring, does it almost a level like Campbell only Campbell is faster.

Second half we needed to start bright and up the tempo if we wanted to break down Leeds, I think once that block he made on the keeper where the fans wear roaring because we pressed, tackled was when I knew we smelt blood and the jig was up for Leeds and we was going to score.

Millwall was quite irritating but sad because he deserves a goal or two.

He gets clattered a lot but his quite strong and gets on with it. Created the second goal I think didn't he?

Agree with Tonteg more or less just without the heated bit.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 7:58 am

He worked hard all game, the goals will come!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:25 am

His work rate is outstanding and he's part of a partnership scoring goals but he's a striker and they obviously thrive off scoring. I think we'll see the best out of this partnership when he gets in on the act. Keep them together as they are improving every game.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:02 am

He was shocking pre season missing sitters aswell.
Tonteg it isn't clueless it's an opinion pal, your opinion is that if he works his socks off then that he deserves his place in the team, mine is the opposite I agree he works his socks off but if he is not delivering the goods and constantly missing chances then I don't think he deserves his place in the team on work rate alone when you got players like ravel and guerra on the sidelines.
I hope he scores and turns his piss poor finishing around, but all I'm saying is give ravel or guerra a chance what's so clueless about that Tonteg?
I bet there's lots of strikers in league 2 who got a great work rate like Le Fondre but shit finishers, shall we sign them and put them in the team because they run their socks off???
I can call that a clueless opinion aswell Tonteg

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 10:54 am

BlueMagic wrote:He was shocking pre season missing sitters aswell.
Tonteg it isn't clueless it's an opinion pal, your opinion is that if he works his socks off then that he deserves his place in the team, mine is the opposite I agree he works his socks off but if he is not delivering the goods and constantly missing chances then I don't think he deserves his place in the team on work rate alone when you got players like ravel and guerra on the sidelines.
I hope he scores and turns his piss poor finishing around, but all I'm saying is give ravel or guerra a chance what's so clueless about that Tonteg?
I bet there's lots of strikers in league 2 who got a great work rate like Le Fondre but shit finishers, shall we sign them and put them in the team because they run their socks off???
I can call that a clueless opinion aswell Tonteg



your opinion is clueless because Le Fondre's consistent run of goal scoring over the last 10 years makes you look like an idiot. Yes he should have scored v Millwall, and yes he had 2 headers that he should have, at least, put on target v leeds. But to call him not good enough is clueless :thumbright:

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 1:38 pm

BlueMagic wrote:He was shocking pre season missing sitters aswell.
Tonteg it isn't clueless it's an opinion pal, your opinion is that if he works his socks off then that he deserves his place in the team, mine is the opposite I agree he works his socks off but if he is not delivering the goods and constantly missing chances then I don't think he deserves his place in the team on work rate alone when you got players like ravel and guerra on the sidelines.
I hope he scores and turns his pi ss poor finishing around, but all I'm saying is give ravel or guerra a chance what's so clueless about that Tonteg?
I bet there's lots of strikers in league 2 who got a great work rate like Le Fondre but sh it finishers, shall we sign them and put them in the team because they run their socks off???
I can call that a clueless opinion aswell Tonteg


I'm sorry but if you can't tell the difference between a striker running around like a headless chicken without contributing anything and a striker like Le Fondre who puts a shift in and has the intelligence to make clever runs, time his runs so he's rarely offside, run the channels to win throw ins and corners, hold the ball up to link the play, draw fouls to take the pressure off and win headers he has no right to win to set up Macheda's goal, I really do give up.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 2:58 pm

paulh_85 wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:He was shocking pre season missing sitters aswell.
Tonteg it isn't clueless it's an opinion pal, your opinion is that if he works his socks off then that he deserves his place in the team, mine is the opposite I agree he works his socks off but if he is not delivering the goods and constantly missing chances then I don't think he deserves his place in the team on work rate alone when you got players like ravel and guerra on the sidelines.
I hope he scores and turns his piss poor finishing around, but all I'm saying is give ravel or guerra a chance what's so clueless about that Tonteg?
I bet there's lots of strikers in league 2 who got a great work rate like Le Fondre but shit finishers, shall we sign them and put them in the team because they run their socks off???
I can call that a clueless opinion aswell Tonteg



your opinion is clueless because Le Fondre's consistent run of goal scoring over the last 10 years makes you look like an idiot. Yes he should have scored v Millwall, and yes he had 2 headers that he should have, at least, put on target v leeds. But to call him not good enough is clueless :thumbright:

What he did at other clubs means nothing if he has no end product with us. Are we supposed to only judge players on past reputation now? he is not a bad player but he looks like he needs a rest at the moment, lots of running that amounts to nothing and lots of missed chances i would give someone else a chance.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 3:08 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:He was shocking pre season missing sitters aswell.
Tonteg it isn't clueless it's an opinion pal, your opinion is that if he works his socks off then that he deserves his place in the team, mine is the opposite I agree he works his socks off but if he is not delivering the goods and constantly missing chances then I don't think he deserves his place in the team on work rate alone when you got players like ravel and guerra on the sidelines.
I hope he scores and turns his pi ss poor finishing around, but all I'm saying is give ravel or guerra a chance what's so clueless about that Tonteg?
I bet there's lots of strikers in league 2 who got a great work rate like Le Fondre but sh it finishers, shall we sign them and put them in the team because they run their socks off???
I can call that a clueless opinion aswell Tonteg


I'm sorry but if you can't tell the difference between a striker running around like a headless chicken without contributing anything and a striker like Le Fondre who puts a shift in and has the intelligence to make clever runs, time his runs so he's rarely offside, run the channels to win throw ins and corners, hold the ball up to link the play, draw fouls to take the pressure off and win headers he has no right to win to set up Macheda's goal, I really do give up.


Your missing the point though and my point, NO END PRODUCT, he couldn't score in a brothel at the moment that is why I would give someone else a chance. The fact you can't grasp the reason he has no end product and can't finish after all these great runs you go on about is why I give up.
He cost us the millwall game effectively, if someone else like guerra was in the positions for them chances we wouldn't have won, and game after he missed a load of chances again. I hope he starts scoring soon and his hard work pays off but there hasent been any proof of his goal scoring ability pre season or all season so how many chances does he need is my point when quality is waiting in the wings. Listen to you Tonteg you would wait all b*stard season till he scores because he works hard

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:16 pm

Agreed origionalgrange, the team is playing well and producing! Lefondre not only runs his butt off, but creates chances for others. I do agree the missed goal two games ago stings, but even world class players miss those occasionally. Two months ago I would have given my right arm for 9 points in 4 games! You can't just say "throw in Guerra or mats Moeller", howwould that upset the dynamic of what Slade has them doing? How is their attitude? How is their work rate in practice? How do they get in with the others on the pitch? Let's stop complaining and rejoice that we have a good disciplined, attacking gaffer that is getting results and moving up the table. Being honest it sure didn't look good at all 6 games ago. Keep it rolling Slade, you are doing amazing so far!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:39 pm

Stringfellow wrote:Nubby and Swindon bluebird bang on the money! Not played all season, can't just flick a switch! Can I point out we have win 3 in 4 with that strike partnership



Agree with you three, he is obviously not at his best, but needs a little more time, he will come good. Some fans are also on Macheda's back as well when he's on three in three at home.

FFS we are playing well and winning after weeks of playing shit, and people are thinking hard who they want to drop, just too used to moaning some of our fans.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:11 pm

BlueMagic wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:He was shocking pre season missing sitters aswell.
Tonteg it isn't clueless it's an opinion pal, your opinion is that if he works his socks off then that he deserves his place in the team, mine is the opposite I agree he works his socks off but if he is not delivering the goods and constantly missing chances then I don't think he deserves his place in the team on work rate alone when you got players like ravel and guerra on the sidelines.
I hope he scores and turns his pi ss poor finishing around, but all I'm saying is give ravel or guerra a chance what's so clueless about that Tonteg?
I bet there's lots of strikers in league 2 who got a great work rate like Le Fondre but sh it finishers, shall we sign them and put them in the team because they run their socks off???
I can call that a clueless opinion aswell Tonteg


I'm sorry but if you can't tell the difference between a striker running around like a headless chicken without contributing anything and a striker like Le Fondre who puts a shift in and has the intelligence to make clever runs, time his runs so he's rarely offside, run the channels to win throw ins and corners, hold the ball up to link the play, draw fouls to take the pressure off and win headers he has no right to win to set up Macheda's goal, I really do give up.


Your missing the point though and my point, NO END PRODUCT, he couldn't score in a brothel at the moment that is why I would give someone else a chance. The fact you can't grasp the reason he has no end product and can't finish after all these great runs you go on about is why I give up.
He cost us the millwall game effectively, if someone else like guerra was in the positions for them chances we wouldn't have won, and game after he missed a load of chances again. I hope he starts scoring soon and his hard work pays off but there hasent been any proof of his goal scoring ability pre season or all season so how many chances does he need is my point when quality is waiting in the wings. Listen to you Tonteg you would wait all b*stard season till he scores because he works hard


So if a striker doesn't score for a few games, he's not good enough? No end product? He assisted for Macheda the last game! Haven't you thought maybe Le Fondre hasn't scored that many yet because he's running himself into the ground to make up for Macheda's lack of effort? Macheda wouldn't be scoring without Le Fondre up front carrying him!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Mon Nov 03, 2014 9:15 pm

Bluebina wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:Nubby and Swindon bluebird bang on the money! Not played all season, can't just flick a switch! Can I point out we have win 3 in 4 with that strike partnership



Agree with you three, he is obviously not at his best, but needs a little more time, he will come good. Some fans are also on Macheda's back as well when he's on three in three at home.

FFS we are playing well and winning after weeks of playing shit, and people are thinking hard who they want to drop, just too used to moaning some of our fans.


I agree it's been a great turn around, macheda has been good and is delivering the goals for us so fair play to him, Le Fondre has frustrated me all season though because he has missed chance after chance after chance that's why I say I'd like someone else to be given a chance. Poor finishing like that won't get us promoted in the long run but like you say I hope he will come good and prove me wrong and start delivering the goods, he's getting in the right positions just needs to finish now so let's see

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:39 am

cendl blue wrote:His work rate is outstanding and he's part of a partnership scoring goals but he's a striker and they obviously thrive off scoring. I think we'll see the best out of this partnership when he gets in on the act. Keep them together as they are improving every game.


:thumbup:

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:30 pm

Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:13 pm

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:Just a matter of time..... He will score.

How long are you prepared to wait?

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:39 pm

BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:20 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!


So Tonteg, genuine now would you still keep Le Fondre in the team now for Saturday or do you think a change is needed and he should be dropped?

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:40 am

BlueMagic wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!


So Tonteg, genuine now would you still keep Le Fondre in the team now for Saturday or do you think a change is needed and he should be dropped?


I definitely would because I see what he brings to our team. Like I've previously said, if Le Fondre was feeding off Jones, I believe he would be scoring. Le Fondre has always been a goal scorer but he's had to change his game with us because he's playing up front with the lazy Macheda, so he has to do all the running Macheda won't do. If Le Fondre was played up front with Jones, I think we would see a difference. Hopefully in the near future we will be given the chance to find out.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:49 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!


So Tonteg, genuine now would you still keep Le Fondre in the team now for Saturday or do you think a change is needed and he should be dropped?


I definitely would because I see what he brings to our team. Like I've previously said, if Le Fondre was feeding off Jones, I believe he would be scoring. Le Fondre has always been a goal scorer but he's had to change his game with us because he's playing up front with the lazy Macheda, so he has to do all the running Macheda won't do. If Le Fondre was played up front with Jones, I think we would see a difference. Hopefully in the near future we will be given the chance to find out.

Blah, drop him for ravel, he's had his chances.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:51 am

LonCar wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!


So Tonteg, genuine now would you still keep Le Fondre in the team now for Saturday or do you think a change is needed and he should be dropped?


I definitely would because I see what he brings to our team. Like I've previously said, if Le Fondre was feeding off Jones, I believe he would be scoring. Le Fondre has always been a goal scorer but he's had to change his game with us because he's playing up front with the lazy Macheda, so he has to do all the running Macheda won't do. If Le Fondre was played up front with Jones, I think we would see a difference. Hopefully in the near future we will be given the chance to find out.

Blah, drop him for ravel, he's had his chances.


Whether it's Ravel, Daehli, Maynard or Guerra, they'll have very little chance to do anything when playing alongside the lazy Macheda.

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:17 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
LonCar wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!


So Tonteg, genuine now would you still keep Le Fondre in the team now for Saturday or do you think a change is needed and he should be dropped?


I definitely would because I see what he brings to our team. Like I've previously said, if Le Fondre was feeding off Jones, I believe he would be scoring. Le Fondre has always been a goal scorer but he's had to change his game with us because he's playing up front with the lazy Macheda, so he has to do all the running Macheda won't do. If Le Fondre was played up front with Jones, I think we would see a difference. Hopefully in the near future we will be given the chance to find out.

Blah, drop him for ravel, he's had his chances.


Whether it's Ravel, Daehli, Maynard or Guerra, they'll have very little chance to do anything when playing alongside the lazy Macheda.


Ravel , daehli and guerra are creative, they can make things happen.
Le fondre has a a terrible first touch and is basically a workshorse no way he should be getting in the team over ravel. Macheda at least scores goals which is what a striker is supposed to do, don't see any chemistry between him and le fondre, this supposed partnership. It's time to give someone else a chance. :thumbup:

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:27 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:
BlueMagic wrote:Le Failure done well again tonight I see.....


You got back quick!


So Tonteg, genuine now would you still keep Le Fondre in the team now for Saturday or do you think a change is needed and he should be dropped?


I definitely would because I see what he brings to our team. Like I've previously said, if Le Fondre was feeding off Jones, I believe he would be scoring. Le Fondre has always been a goal scorer but he's had to change his game with us because he's playing up front with the lazy Macheda, so he has to do all the running Macheda won't do. If Le Fondre was played up front with Jones, I think we would see a difference. Hopefully in the near future we will be given the chance to find out.


Now your blaming macheda on Le failure constantly wasting chances? Haha priceless what excuse next..
How macheda has any influence on Le Fondre wasting a chance when Le Fondre has the ball at his feet I never know, Le Fondre has the ball at his feet, wastes a chance yet it's machedas fault? How does that work then lol

Re: Le Fondre - NOT GOOD ENOUGH!

Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:29 pm

Classic tonteg :lol: