' CHED EVANS ? ? '

Tough call, but he probably should be allowed to do his job, although if be disgusted if Cardiff signed him.

Clearly guilty of rape and has shown zero contrition which is sad. But you can't expect much from a scum bag. International level should probably be avoided though, rapists don't deserve that privledge.

What a load of shite, clearly deluded and zero knowledge which is sadder. Basing knowledge on an extremely questionable conviction given a split verdict on the co accused. Based on your intelect, you shouldn't be allowed to judge others, why dont you just assume you dont know the full facts, oh thats right, you already did and judged irresoective

i think most people on this board by the precedent set in this case are rapists (including myself)

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Being judged by someone who admits to being a rapist.

Ched Evans is a rapist, all you rape apologists change nothing about that no matter how much you try and justify it or blame the victim.

What a f*cking moron. With comments like yours I would doubt whether you have the intelligence to even tie your own shoelaces.

First watch the video which shows the supposedly pissed female when they arrive at the hotel. No way is she too drunk to consent. Then look at the tweets. If you can get your little peabrain around this you might understand that it is all about how much the tart can get in compensation. There was no rape, just a jury falling for a sob story.

Ched Evans - convicted rapist, Stan_B rape apologist. Both disgusting.

You, Ched Evans and a dark alley. Now that's a combination I'd like to see.

I'm not a drunk defenceless young girl so I'd imagine he wouldn't have much to say too me.

I'm not a drunk defenceless young girl so I'd imagine he wouldn't have much to say too me.

Give over.............I bet your a real terror when you gets going.

amazing how people on here seem to be experts on the case. maybe you need to trust the fact that a jury found him guilty, and twice his appeal was overturned rather than a website put together by his family and girlfriend.

and it's not like hughes or mcormick. as sick as their actions were, they were unintentional. ched did not accidentaly go into that hotel room.

as for his girlfriend, she should get doormat tattooed on her forehead

Don't know the details but she obviously went back to the hotel room for a reason. He didn't drag her back there did he?

You clearly don't know the details. She was incapacitated by alcohol which is the reason a guilty verdict was returned. She couldn't consent.

I would be a very annoyed if my daughter was going to hotel rooms with two strange men at that time of night.

you seem to be suggesting that it's the woman's fault....i hope you dont have a daughter

I'm not a drunk defenceless young girl so I'd imagine he wouldn't have much to say too me.

You sound like you have created your own little reality whereby if a court says your guilty them you must be. So all the hundreds of city supporters who have had to appear in court because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time in your book must be guilty if they were found guilty. Yes or no?

Have you even read a transcript of the trial. Have you looked at the facts in this case. There have been a lot of innocent people convicted in the last few years. In a lot of cases the police/CPS don't really care about innocence or guilt. They have targets to achieve and that's all anyone in court really is, a statistic.

I'm not a drunk defenceless young girl so I'd imagine he wouldn't have much to say too me.

You sound like you have created your own little reality whereby if a court says your guilty them you must be. So all the hundreds of city supporters who have had to appear in court because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time in your book must be guilty if they were found guilty. Yes or no?

Have you even read a transcript of the trial. Have you looked at the facts in this case. There have been a lot of innocent people convicted in the last few years. In a lot of cases the police/CPS don't really care about innocence or guilt. They have targets to achieve and that's all anyone in court really is, a statistic.

News just in:
The Police don't try suspects. The judicial system is independent and has no targets. If you believe that they would pervert the course of justice just to victimise a pro footballer, then you need to find proof, although the personally appointed defence team could not produce enough... THREE times (the trial and 2 subsequent appeals).

Innocent until proven guilty.
Guilty when proven.

Should not wear a Wales shirt unless this is overturned imho.

Welcome back Ched.

What ever your opinion is. Its based on what ? what you read, what you hear, what your told by the media?
If he is willing to put himself in the spotlight and take the flack, then that says it all.
For me his girlfriend believes it's rubbish. His sister feels the same his team mates also and the other guy gets off innocent.
Sorry but this for me is taking advantage of someone in the spotlight.
Even people who named her were chastised for given her details.
Sorry for being a cynic. I don't condone any abuse of power. But really I think he was set up.
Victim of his success.
Time will tell!

I am happy to give him a chance. I believe a lot of people are flying like a bullet and are not really following what has gone on with the situation.

Welcome back Ched.

I didn't know you were a probation officer.

I'm not a drunk defenceless young girl so I'd imagine he wouldn't have much to say too me.

You sound like you have created your own little reality whereby if a court says your guilty them you must be. So all the hundreds of city supporters who have had to appear in court because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time in your book must be guilty if they were found guilty. Yes or no?

Have you even read a transcript of the trial. Have you looked at the facts in this case. There have been a lot of innocent people convicted in the last few years. In a lot of cases the police/CPS don't really care about innocence or guilt. They have targets to achieve and that's all anyone in court really is, a statistic.

News just in:
The Police don't try suspects. The judicial system is independent and has no targets. If you believe that they would pervert the course of justice just to victimise a pro footballer, then you need to find proof, although the personally appointed defence team could not produce enough... THREE times (the trial and 2 subsequent appeals).

Innocent until proven guilty.
Guilty when proven.

Should not wear a Wales shirt unless this is overturned imho.

Winner winner chicken dinner.

^^^^^ This.

Don't know the details but she obviously went back to the hotel room for a reason. He didn't drag her back there did he?

You clearly don't know the details. She was incapacitated by alcohol which is the reason a guilty verdict was returned. She couldn't consent.

I would be a very annoyed if my daughter was going to hotel rooms with two strange men at that time of night.

you seem to be suggesting that it's the woman's fault....i hope you dont have a daughter

I do have a daughter and I would be annoyed if she behaved like this young women. Any other questions my friend.

dressing like a slag then getting drunk to the point of blackout is like going into the london tube with a gucci bag full of iPhones and leaving it open next to a bunch of romanian pickpockets and then acting surprised when they're gone when you get off at the next stop!

the lads served his time so he has a right to continue to earn a wage from the game if a club offer him a contract, simple as that.

If you are taking the law seriously by saying "He has served his time, he can work, that is the law" Then you also have to accept the conviction that he is an actual rapist. Then if you are morally okay with a rapist serving a short prison sentence, losing nothing, then even benefiting from his previous hyped up rating, then carry on.

He isn't even that good a footballer. Average at best. This isn't Cantona coming back. If he puts on a welsh shirt then I doubt I'd attend the game. The years of 'rape' songs sung at us if we did it would make it not worth while in my opinon. We have a good Welsh squad currently, don't ruin it

At the end of the day, the man has a conviction whether it be right or wrong. It would be setting a really bad example should he be allowed to come back. I personally think the trial was dodgy and all that but again, he's got his conviction and it would be the wrong thing to let him back into football.

If you are taking the law seriously by saying "He has served his time, he can work, that is the law" Then you also have to accept the conviction that he is an actual rapist. Then if you are morally okay with a rapist serving a short prison sentence, losing nothing, then even benefiting from his previous hyped up rating, then carry on.

He isn't even that good a footballer. Average at best. This isn't Cantona coming back. If he puts on a welsh shirt then I doubt I'd attend the game. The years of 'rape' songs sung at us if we did it would make it not worth while in my opinon. We have a good Welsh squad currently, don't ruin it

He served his time hasn't he? Ridiculous you think he should not pay taxes like the rest of us

dressing like a slag then getting drunk to the point of blackout is like going into the london tube with a gucci bag full of iPhones and leaving it open next to a bunch of romanian pickpockets and then acting surprised when they're gone when you get off at the next stop!

the lads served his time so he has a right to continue to earn a wage from the game if a club offer him a contract, simple as that.

2 things .....
1. if i give my belongs away its called consent.....if taken its theft...
2. lets say a lad is a paedophile is this also the case that he has done the time ..?

Since everyone has had their say I thought I would give my two pence

When he played for Norwich ? He scored the best goal I have ever seen live to beat us 1-0

For that reason, guilty

He's been released today!

Since everyone has had their say I thought I would give my two pence

When he played for Norwich ? He scored the best goal I have ever seen live to beat us 1-0

For that reason, guilty

He certainly raped us that day... too early?

I havent read all the posts on this topic but the title got me thinking, didnt Lee Hughes play pro football again after being released for killing somebody whilst drink driving and fleeing the scene?

He caught us with our pants down

I havent read all the posts on this topic but the title got me thinking, didnt Lee Hughes play pro football again after being released for killing somebody whilst drink driving and fleeing the scene?

correct..

Former Sheffield United and Wales striker Ched Evans was released from prison on Friday after serving half of a five-year sentence for rape.

The 25-year-old, who has also played for Manchester City, was convicted in 2012 of raping a 19-year-old woman in a hotel room.

Evans, who left Wymott Prison near Leyland in north-west England at about 4am GMT, has promised to make a “very personal and profound” statement on his website next week. The website also said that on July 15, Evans’s new legal team had submitted an application to the Criminal Cases Review Commission, which is the first step to a second appeal.

“Ched is now adjusting to normal life after serving a sentence for a crime consistently denied,” a statement on his website read.

“Ched would like to thank prior to the video statement, the thousands of people from all walks of life who have supported him and believe in him.”

Sheffield United manager Nigel Clough has discussed the possibility of Evans making a comeback with the third tier club but more than 145 000 people have signed a petition against his possible return for the Blades.

http://mg.co.za/article/2014-10-17-foot ... e-for-rape?

If the football authorities want people to stand up against racists so why don't they stand up against rapists ?

As far as I'm concerned after reading about the case, and the files of the solicitor/ reporter who fought for the conviction to be overturned, he is innocent of rape.
Guilty or not guilty, he has served his time and since his job does not require him to take a CRB check, or should it be affected by him being on the sex offenders register, he should be allowed to start playing again. If anyone wants him.

Denzil, I'm with you, I followed the case as well and also he should be allowed to continue his career,just like anyone who commits a crime should be allowed a job once theyve served their time.

The legal case states there was evidence she consented to go in the room with his mate - hence why he was acquitted. As for Ched he just jumped in later - if she was non-consenting, or in a state not to consent then this is rape.

I have seen the video of her picking up a pizza which is quite telling as her her "non paralytic " state when she arrived at the hotel. However, there is no indication of her state when Ched arrived, and there is nothing to state she consented. Hence Ched is guilty of non-consenting sex hence rape.

We need to trust the legal system, this system states that he was guilty, it also states that when he has served his term he can rebuild his life.

So my view, cut the political correctness, the guy was convicted, he served his time, let him be.

The poor sod will get grilled at every match. I say "poor sod" because he has served his punishment so should no longer needs to be punished.

I have little time for the "rape is rape" argument. There is a difference between Rape with GBH and Rape with ambiguity.
It is possible to be convicted of rape following an ambiguity, Ched is proof of this.

My personal view is the guy was a dick. He did something I wouldn't do. There was ambiguity and he was finally convicted. He should have been more respectful.

This is a website all about the case etc

Very interesting & gives a greater insight into the case well from Ched Evans supporters.

http://www.chedevans.com/the-disputed-tweets

Pretty shocking that . If those tweets are anything to go by he has been tucked right up

dressing like a slag then getting drunk to the point of blackout is like going into the london tube with a gucci bag full of iPhones and leaving it open next to a bunch of romanian pickpockets and then acting surprised when they're gone when you get off at the next stop!

the lads served his time so he has a right to continue to earn a wage from the game if a club offer him a contract, simple as that.

2 things .....
1. if i give my belongs away its called consent.....if taken its theft...
2. lets say a lad is a paedophile is this also the case that he has done the time ..?

good question, to be consistent i must say he still has the right to work as long as he's not in direct contact with kids, but no professional club would employ a peadophile so its only hypothetical. evans will get a club though, whether you agree or not.