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Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:01 am
Hiroshima was a city, whereas the 'mujahidin' have no borders. Which is why Turkey aren't doing anything about Kobani, they know they are over run with Jihadists. If they started bombing ISIS, you could only imagine the response from the evil that they cannot even locate in their own country.
Japan cannot be compared to ISIS. Japan are at fault for some of the worst war crimes ever committed, but they had some people that had enough of a concious to call it a day. ISIS don't have a ounce of common decency.
They are everywhere. Carpet bombing hundreds of miles is simply not logical and will solve absolutely nothing whatsoever.
It is that type of logic that is the reason why we are one of the most hated countries around the globe.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:11 am
There's a big difference in what you are saying and reality: All of the Middle East want these gone and these is one of the rarest times ever that different Muslim believers are actually in agreement on something. So your belief that they will be martyrs is not valid in my opinion
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:13 am
Depressed Blue wrote:Hiroshima was a city, whereas the 'mujahidin' have no borders. Which is why Turkey aren't doing anything about Kobani, they know they are over run with Jihadists. If they started bombing ISIS, you could only imagine the response from the evil that they cannot even locate in their own country.
Japan cannot be compared to ISIS. Japan are at fault for some of the worst war crimes ever committed, but they had some people that had enough of a concious to call it a day. ISIS don't have a ounce of common decency.
They are everywhere. Carpet bombing hundreds of miles is simply not logical and will solve absolutely nothing whatsoever.
It is that type of logic that is the reason why we are one of the most hated countries around the globe.
One of the most hated countries in the world yet every fuker seems to want to come and live here. Says a lot about these places who supposedly hate us when their citizens would rather live here than the shitholes they come from
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:17 am
mr'mogreenz wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:Hiroshima was a city, whereas the 'mujahidin' have no borders. Which is why Turkey aren't doing anything about Kobani, they know they are over run with Jihadists. If they started bombing ISIS, you could only imagine the response from the evil that they cannot even locate in their own country.
Japan cannot be compared to ISIS. Japan are at fault for some of the worst war crimes ever committed, but they had some people that had enough of a concious to call it a day. ISIS don't have a ounce of common decency.
They are everywhere. Carpet bombing hundreds of miles is simply not logical and will solve absolutely nothing whatsoever.
It is that type of logic that is the reason why we are one of the most hated countries around the globe.
One of the most hated countries in the world yet every fuker seems to want to come and live here. Says a lot about these places who supposedly hate us when their citizens would rather live here than the shitholes they come from
I always find it strange to many former British controlled countries have really gone downhill since they had returned power.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:25 am
Military Junta wrote:There's a big difference in what you are saying and reality: All of the Middle East want these gone and these is one of the rarest times ever that different Muslim believers are actually in agreement on something. So your belief that they will be martyrs is not valid in my opinion
Well it doesn't seem that way does it.
Apart from a few token statements, most Middle Eastern countries have done nothing, zero.
Syria hates Turkey, Turkey hates Syria. So Assad has lost control of his northern border and pretty much the entire country. So why bother stopping ISIS?. Just let them destroy Turkey aswell. Same with Iran, Syrias allies.
Iraq are already seen as a anti sunni government and have recently appointed a less pro Shia PM. They are also in between a rock and a hard place. Poorly trained by the Brits and Americans, their army has no chance against ISIS. Which is why ISIS are so well equipped by jihadists standards, the Iraqi army have no will power. Who are they fighting for?.
Talk is cheap.
It is only a matter of time before they reach Israel. A country that will actually defend its own borders.
Israel Hamas - Under 3,000 deaths
Assad - Over 200,000
If we actually cared about civilian deaths, we would have acted over Assad. It isn't hard to see why Sunnis around the world are now taking action.
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Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:27 am
Military Junta wrote:mr'mogreenz wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:Hiroshima was a city, whereas the 'mujahidin' have no borders. Which is why Turkey aren't doing anything about Kobani, they know they are over run with Jihadists. If they started bombing ISIS, you could only imagine the response from the evil that they cannot even locate in their own country.
Japan cannot be compared to ISIS. Japan are at fault for some of the worst war crimes ever committed, but they had some people that had enough of a concious to call it a day. ISIS don't have a ounce of common decency.
They are everywhere. Carpet bombing hundreds of miles is simply not logical and will solve absolutely nothing whatsoever.
It is that type of logic that is the reason why we are one of the most hated countries around the globe.
One of the most hated countries in the world yet every fuker seems to want to come and live here. Says a lot about these places who supposedly hate us when their citizens would rather live here than the shitholes they come from
I always find it strange to many former British controlled countries have really gone downhill since they had returned power.
I think you have found the problem. British control destroys countries.
Just look at Libya.
It is difficult to even call them a country now.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:34 am
Depressed Blue wrote:Military Junta wrote:mr'mogreenz wrote:Depressed Blue wrote:Hiroshima was a city, whereas the 'mujahidin' have no borders. Which is why Turkey aren't doing anything about Kobani, they know they are over run with Jihadists. If they started bombing ISIS, you could only imagine the response from the evil that they cannot even locate in their own country.
Japan cannot be compared to ISIS. Japan are at fault for some of the worst war crimes ever committed, but they had some people that had enough of a concious to call it a day. ISIS don't have a ounce of common decency.
They are everywhere. Carpet bombing hundreds of miles is simply not logical and will solve absolutely nothing whatsoever.
It is that type of logic that is the reason why we are one of the most hated countries around the globe.
One of the most hated countries in the world yet every fuker seems to want to come and live here. Says a lot about these places who supposedly hate us when their citizens would rather live here than the shitholes they come from
I always find it strange to many former British controlled countries have really gone downhill since they had returned power.
I think you have found the problem. British control destroys countries.
Just look at Libya.
It is difficult to even call them a country now.
Complete opposite in fact, British Controlled countries had a better future. Even people in India claim that had it not been for the British Railway which was built under British rule then the recent economic boom over there would never have happened. Look at Zimbabwe now and that was a very rich country back in the day and then look at the likes of Australia who are still within the British family and their economy
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:40 am
I've been to India and it is possibly the worst run country on our planet. It is a total cesspool of crime, murder and death. There is an economic boom in India because frankly it couldn't get any lower. There is a boom in things such as technology, their actual infrastructure is appalling. It is a economy built for 0.000001% that are rich, all the rest live in the worst poverty imaginable.
The people that praise the British are probably successful.
The Aussies succeeded on their own.
Most countries around the Australian area are looking to remove the Union Jack from their flags.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:43 am
Depressed Blue wrote:I've been to India and it is possibly the worst run country on our planet. It is a total cesspool of crime, murder and death. There is an economic boom in India because frankly it couldn't get any lower. There is a boom in things such as technology, their actual infrastructure is appalling. It is a economy built for 0.000001% that are rich, all the rest live in the worst poverty imaginable.
The people that praise the British are probably successful.
The Aussies succeeded on their own.
Most countries around the Australian area are looking to remove the Union Jack from their flags.
Which you have highlighted my point once again, when India was under British Rule it was run better!!!!
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:57 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Just send in the troops and let them have target practise with them. They can only fight and murder civilians Women Children and people with there hands tied behind there backs. Cowards the lot of them.
Its not that easy, they are good fighters, a core % are highly organised, they target areas well thought out and with planning. They can fight. Its also alot easier to fight a war they want to win, that means something to them, they are willing to die.
Most military men follow orders, but arent prepared to die for this war, they are doing a job and looking after the guys around them, not the people in the area. They dont want it as much as ISIS which isnt going to change at this moment as Our military are fighting for a wage, ISIS are fighting for a brainwashed Ideology.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:57 am
Nope!.

But I'm sure we have done some good to counter the bad we've done.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:28 pm
Turning off the news channels, that stops me listening and watching anything to do with I S
Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:32 pm
Kill them kill them all
Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:13 pm
Why do the media and world politicians refer to them as the Islamic State.
According to many Muslims, they bear little relation to the vast majority of Islam, so it is questionable that they should be called Islamic.
Regards to them being classed as a State, they started off by having 'converts' from many countries bullying and murdering their way through towns, cities and regions. Their actions in hiding their faces in videos and hiding within communities making it difficult to identify them, make them cowardly.
They 'own' no actual State, they are not a State, so why validate and legitimise them.
There are many other obvious names for this terrorist group.
Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:09 pm
To be fair the US and the UK cant do right for doing wrong. If they help a country they are acting as the world policeman, if we dont, we get blamed for letting atrocities happen.
we get slagged off the world over, yet we let in asylum seekers in their thousands monthly because we are a friendly, easy going country.
If we dont get involved in stopping the IS now, we are all going to be involved.
Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:54 pm
mr'mogreenz wrote:Tsar-bomba-icon-440x227.jpeg
With one of these
How many do you have?
Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:19 pm
Ummmmmm...by asking the CIA politely to stop funding them?
Sat Oct 18, 2014 12:21 pm
Mr Green wrote:Kill them kill them all

Great quote from Hook there.
My favourite lines from Dustin Hoffman in that movie.
'Kill them. Kill them all'
Brilliant
Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:06 pm
There are lots of conflicting approaches in the short term - bomb, troops, funding groups or countries etc.
Long term the solution is a lot more of
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29640090 Ebola crisis: British army medics arrive in West Africa
The UK should focus on assisting countries suffering from medical emergencies, natural disasters etc instead of military reaction. Apart from the moral case, we need to be winning hearts and minds. Practical help for people suffering distress all over the world does more than help people, it helps them to challenge the rantings of the extremists.
Pakistani muslems who have been helped by British aid for their earthquakes will wonder why the extremists believe the British are evil.
However hard British forces try to target bombs and bullets at extremists, some will kill innocent civilians. The survivors who have lost family and friends are more likely to listen to extremist messages.
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