Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:40 pm
PortBlue wrote:Shame how innocently uneducated these ukip voters are. Are they aware of any policies other than the immigration one? In fairness they aren't entirely racist, but politically inept.
Social democracy is what we should be encouraging...none of the above parties can offer it. If your vote mattered, they wouldn't let you have it!
Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:52 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:53 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:54 pm
popeye21 wrote:grange_end1927 wrote:Labour for the workers
The gap between the rich and the poor grew to such an extent under the last labour government that the last time it was as wide the poor were living in workhouses. Labour are a bunch of champagne socialists who want the people to do as they're told, yet those in office behave completely different. For example Dianne Abbott was against public schools yet sent her children to public school.
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:00 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:04 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:06 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:12 pm
thevoiceofreason wrote:You're all missing the point here. The system is broken... All of the above only serve the wealthy elite. The only exception I would make would be the green party as they have some very different ideas about government... It's not all about the environment!
I for one will never vote in this broken system cos to me that is showing that I buy into it. The ballot box won't solve our problems.
Ps - why are people so down on immigrants... They're people who are deep down the same as us. It's the wealthy elite who have more money than they can ever spend we should turn our attention to!
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:18 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:No surprise that this forum are a bunch of racists and mongs so will be voting UKIP x
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:25 pm
popeye21 wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:No surprise that this forum are a bunch of racists and mongs so will be voting UKIP x
Please educate us. Explain how UKIP are racists. Also explain why insulting the disabled is ok.
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:29 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:43 pm
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:50 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:No surprise that this forum are a bunch of racists and mongs so will be voting UKIP x
Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:50 pm
ronnieconradsflatcap wrote:Military Junta wrote:moonboots wrote:BlueGog wrote:pensionerbluebird wrote:Ukip
If you lived in England fine but Ukip has no relevance in Wales whatsoever. Plaid is the only realistic option against the major Westminster parties. Plaid has Wales' interests at heart. Do Ukip care about Wales? Do the f*@k!
People being easily taken in by UKIP. If they had to form a government who have they got to make up a cabinet apart from their boozy leader? What policies have they got except get out of Europe and stop immigration? Like you I've come to the conclusion that the only party that truly cares about Wales is Plaid.
Plaid loves immigrants and wants more and more to come to Wales.
Its mainly the english immigrating to Wales to escape all them immigrants in the cities.
Voted Labour last time but living in South London you see the massive problems they create & believe me all these stories of these immigrants getting everything before the British is true.
They are building loads of flats etc around my area & the foreigners gets them & after a few months they are disgusting slums.
A cave is to good for these lot.
Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:04 pm
Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:08 am
RFMH wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:No surprise that this forum are a bunch of racists and mongs so will be voting UKIP x
A decent point, phrased horrendously and ableist and ironically a little bit racist. But yes UKIP, the Tory party for horrific right wing people that even the regular Tories are too nice for, or, you know, islamophobia.
Difficult to vote for anyone really, very few represent actual change that would be positive.
Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:31 am
moonboots wrote:BlueGog wrote:pensionerbluebird wrote:Ukip
If you lived in England fine but Ukip has no relevance in Wales whatsoever. Plaid is the only realistic option against the major Westminster parties. Plaid has Wales' interests at heart. Do Ukip care about Wales? Do the f*@k!
People being easily taken in by UKIP. If they had to form a government who have they got to make up a cabinet apart from their boozy leader? What policies have they got except get out of Europe and stop immigration? Like you I've come to the conclusion that the only party that truly cares about Wales is Plaid.
Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:56 am
Brighton & hove Albion wrote:
Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:01 am
Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:38 pm
Military Junta wrote:Plaid have always been called the Welsh Tories with their ideas of banning English from owning homes in Wales. Surely that's racist in today's world isn't it ?
Sat Oct 11, 2014 1:47 pm
Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:37 pm
BlueGog wrote:To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.
Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!
Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:42 pm
Military Junta wrote:Plaid have always been called the Welsh Tories with their ideas of banning English from owning homes in Wales. Surely that's racist in today's world isn't it ?
Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:52 pm
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Military Junta wrote:Plaid have always been called the Welsh Tories with their ideas of banning English from owning homes in Wales. Surely that's racist in today's world isn't it ?
Yea plaid seem to be more concerned of the Welsh language than actually stating how an independent Wales could survive with out relying on eu handouts.
Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:57 pm
Cwmann_Bluebird wrote:Bridgend_bluebird wrote:Military Junta wrote:Plaid have always been called the Welsh Tories with their ideas of banning English from owning homes in Wales. Surely that's racist in today's world isn't it ?
Yea plaid seem to be more concerned of the Welsh language than actually stating how an independent Wales could survive with out relying on eu handouts.
As a first-language Welsh speaker, I'm more concerned about the future of the language than Wales being an independent state, myself.
Sat Oct 11, 2014 7:19 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:No surprise that this forum are a bunch of racists and mongs so will be voting UKIP x
Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:06 pm
BlueGog wrote:Military Junta wrote:Plaid have always been called the Welsh Tories with their ideas of banning English from owning homes in Wales. Surely that's racist in today's world isn't it ?
What utter rubbish!! Get your facts right, Plaid have no such policies and never have and hopefully never will.
Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:23 pm
BlueGog wrote:To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.
Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!
Sat Oct 11, 2014 8:29 pm
popeye21 wrote:BlueGog wrote:To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.
Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!
What utter rubbish. Do you think that people from ethnic minorities and especially a black Jew would ever be part of a fascist party. (see my previous posts on this thread which highlight some of the above mentioned people).
Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:39 pm
Military Junta wrote:popeye21 wrote:BlueGog wrote:To be perfectly honest I am very frightened of what is happening with Ukip. It is very similar to what happened in Germany when the National Socialists under Hitler started to win seats. Fascists won't do silly marches into town wearing silly uniforms they start by winning over the hearts of the population through fear and slowly gain power. Excactly what Ukip are doing now.
Remember Hitler was elected democratically in Germany and was very popular. The same thing is happening in England.
Please God let Wales be different!
What utter rubbish. Do you think that people from ethnic minorities and especially a black Jew would ever be part of a fascist party. (see my previous posts on this thread which highlight some of the above mentioned people).
Don't worry Popeyes this guys argument is right out of the window as he doesn't even know what the party he personally supports are really about