' Russell Slade written off already? '

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Fair point, but I disagree with some of the above... Pulis has already proven what he can do with an average stoke team that maintained prem league status and top half of table and an 11th place finish with a shit palace team....

Prior to our malky appointment when we had Whitley and.co doing the recruitment we had all sorts of managers with good reputations lined up, interviewed and spoken too more than once. They believed in malky and turned down various managers. I believe hughton and di Matteo were spoken too if I'm not mistaken... Hughton went else where and lead his team to promotion and di Matteo won the champs league....

This time we haven't interviewed anyone, just jumped in two footed for a unproven journey man... We are talking about a guy who has never won a single promotion in 20 yrs!

He will get my support of course as will anyone who takes charge but it doesn't stop us forming an opinion and a concern as paying fans...

And what has Slade done here? Nothing yet but he hasn't even got the job so I want to know your crystal ball? You see us failing under him? Relegation? You seem to have it figured out?

Not mentioned relegation..... But when I interview someone for a job, I look at their c.v. To see if they are capable of doing the role successfully... His cv is not great for a club with our ambition...

What has he won? 2 league manager awards in 20 yrs...
O promotions
O trophies
O opportunities at champ level... Why is it that no one has taken a punt on him? Because he is unproven....

I personally don't think that our high earning players will give him the respect.... They will think who the hell is this guy? And let's be honest, most of us had never heard of him 2 weeks ago...

This appointment is vital that we get it spot on and I think upstairs we have been advised wrongly but who I don't know, but we should at least get a list of available candidates and speak to them all before taking a massive gamble on a unknown and unproven manager...

do u need a cv for football manager?? as lots are picked on who they are and not what success they acheived? we all know slades cv and it is better than malkies before he came here so that rubbishes your point on cv and gamble as he was only 18mnths manager at watford and unproven!! lots more managers out there the same as malky slade ect ect, u dont need a list as every man and his dog knows who is out of a job!

The club bought into Malkys philosophy and he shone in his interview...... Plus he was a young hungry manager.....we can compare malky to slade In 15 or so yrs... But after 2 yrs malky has already achieved more than what slade had in his whole career.


All I'm saying is we should speak to all candidates first rather than just go for an unknown...

Bought into Malky's philosophy? It was either Di Matteo or Chris Hughton who was defiantly going to the job but one of them turned up with the wrong presentation which was related to West Ham.

sorry changeing your point every time someone answers you, dando is right yes but malky had 50mil budget in 1year!! how much did slade have in whole career? ffs what if city have bought into slades philosophy? also his record is not bad considering he had nothing to spend last season especially or previously

And so the rollercoaster continues. I really fear that it will now have to get worse before the football club that I love fully recovers & eventually reaches the rightful potential that befits Cardiff City FC and I've been there since the late '70's. I'll back the latest manager of course but most of all, I'll back my club, even as unrecognisable as it is in its present form. It deserves the stewardship of someone who cares about its fans, its history and its future. How difficult can it be when as our little cousins seem to be doing A-OK?

And so the rollercoaster continues. I really fear that it will now have to get worse before the football club that I love fully recovers & eventually reaches the rightful potential that befits Cardiff City FC and I've been there since the late '70's. I'll back the latest manager of course but most of all, I'll back my club, even as unrecognisable as it is in its present form. It deserves the stewardship of someone who cares about its fans, its history and its future. How difficult can it be when as our little cousins seem to be doing A-OK?

Any manager we are in for won't be guaranteed a success.. but I am prepared to back them and not write them off. It seems you always remain some kind of optimism and will give anyone a chance regarding the club we love which I have respect for. I do fear the worst but we need to remain some form of light at the end of the tunnel so we need to support and get behind the club through GOOD AND BAD.

You call it negativity but it's reality, us supporters care so much that this nonsense is killing us, appointing a manager who has no experience at this level and who has not won anything is not what is needed especially at a club in disarray in the boardroom where no one has a clue how to run a football club, that is why supporters are so underwhelmed and pissed off.

What did Moyes do at Everton? Did he win anything? Ferguson was given time.

The boardroom ain't the best but past few months they have been professional. The Malky stuff coming out? We didn't do anything rash or stupid but remained as one and didn't back down on anything that was released. Ole left or sacked.. was on good terms.

Are we really pissed off with the club being run ATM? Because to me it's the performances and results and that's the hard truth/

It seems that fans are fed up with the way the club is being run in the form of who is advising who..... Either way none of the guys upstairs have a clue about football and team affairs.... It's all very amateur...

So why wasn't this said when VT first came here? Did people think he knew everything about football? Funny how it comes about 3/4 years later.

Most owners don't know much about football, but they also don't interfere with the team affairs...

Then again why should he trust someone who was racist towards him and pocketed money from VT's money he gave to him (MM) to invest into the team where he milked us 50 million?

Just give the guy a chance, you don't know what he is going to do here.

Very good point, As u say we don't know and can we afford to take that chance??. We need someone to come in and hit the floor running! And only in a proven experienced manager would we get this.

Pulis is guaranteed that everywhere he walks then?

pulis is a trouble shooter we dont need that we need a long term fix, and slade is better choice than pulis! may not be better manager but better long term for us.
ps pulis as only been promoted twice in 20 odd yrs

We need a trouble shooter at the moment. But Pulis is more than that. He has a habit of turning clubs around and making smart signings. Only 2 promotions is it? You need to look at the clubs he's had but also remember he spent a good few years in the PL. Also how close was he with the Gills? Besides, still a better CV than Slades and certainly at a higher level. Don't forget he established stoke as a PL club.

For me not only would he give us the best chance of a return to the PL (something Tan is desperate for) but also giving us the best chance of staying there.

Pembroke.

Not once have I changed my opinion or answers, u and dando have made valid points but nothing is going to change my personal opinion that we are taking a massive gamble and one that we can Ill afford. We have just got rid of one unproven manager who also succeeded with a team at a lower level of football but was way out of his depth with us... I'm not saying slade isn't a decent manager at league 1 & 2 level he's done great there with the resources at orient but noting else in 20 yrs! But nobody has ever taken a punt on him, not even a Peterboro or a Barnsley or a team who yo yos between the leagues and regularly change their manager.

During oles last two games we were all crying out or someone who knew what to do, someone experienced to steady us and take us back up and pulis has proven with every club he's been at that he can do that!

I'm disappointed with Slade being appointed manager but that doesn't mean I won't back him. Personally I think we've missed a huge opportunity to get someone in who can start a football identity at the club. I don't think Slade is that man but I'm hope I'm wrong.

Yes he may be willing and enthusiastic, but that won't cut any ice if we don't get results on the pitch or at least start to show signs we are building up to something special.

Interesting times.

Good post. I feel exactly the same, disappointed, a missed opportunity to bring in an experienced manager at this or Premiership level which is what we need at this time. I see Slade's appointment as too much of a gamble at this important time at the club. Ole's appointment did not work out so why take another gamble? Time will tell but I will definitely support the new manager.

I still haven't heard Pulis say publicly that he has any interest in managing us. I would have thought that his ambitions may be more than managing a small club that has spent most of the last 50 years in the championship or one of the bottom two divisions. It's only on this forum that I have read that Pulis wants to come here. Not saying that he doesn't, but until he says something in public I will take it as nothing more than a rumour that he is interested.

I still haven't heard Pulis say publicly that he has any interest in managing us. I would have thought that his ambitions may be more than managing a small club that has spent most of the last 50 years in the championship or one of the bottom two divisions. It's only on this forum that I have read that Pulis wants to come here. Not saying that he doesn't, but until he says something in public I will take it as nothing more than a rumour that he is interested.

Mark, you make a good point and nowhere has he 'officially' stated he wants the Cardiff job, but the Pulis thing may have been been on a more personal (i.e. 'local boy') front and that can have a powerful pull; just ask Craig Bellamy!

The words I saw which instantly drew me in.. 'Reality check'.

I haven't posted for a few days because I been just reading over a lot of supporters views over social media and on here. To be honest with you I am disgusted with the attitude of the supporters of this club.. a majority. Embarrassing tweets on Twitter of our supporters already writing off Russell Slade. The guy hasn't even got the job yet. All down to the Premier League, lot of our fans think were bigger than what we really are. I back the appointment of any manager because they are walking into our club regardless of high payment, transfer backing they still want to be charge and want to do something with our club which I support and love.

I read since the rebrand came about 'Tradition over success' I now see that view as the biggest load of nonsense because I haven't been strong viewed on backing the blue as some people yet them people who are.. are the ones complaining about the manager, the future and path of this club wondering what's next and are worried about possible relegation yet 'League 2 over being in red'. That view is a pure delusional lie to me the things I have read.

Yes we do need a reality check, yes I am sad and I did back Ole because everyone deserves a chance yet I have received abuse on here, twitter, facebook and for what? To want someone who is employed and works for the club.. represents the club to succeed and it just shows the attitude of some which is disgraceful. I haven't supported the club as long as a lot of people.. a thousand people but yet it seems I with a minority seem to wants to back whoever is managing the team. I watched us under Malky and I have walked out of games like Burnley home march 2012? We drew 0-0 on Sunday and my word the football, the whole day just dumb and gloomy but I would still back Malky.. I have knocked him but I always expected him to mix things up from time to time like a master class 4-0 performance which he did do in the 2012/2013 season. I have criticised him since he left down to an overall view of he was, what he wanted to do, how he played. But I still backed him despite the dire football on times. But now it's come to the point where a manager hasn't officially got the job has been written off down to being a league lower. Some even saying 'he's another yes man' yet Annis once met him and had a conversation and never backed the rebrand and got involved so this yes man is a load of tosh.

If he is appointed I won't be disappointed because I will back anyone who will manage by club and try and do the best they can. The guy has left his own job from LO which I assume he does really want the job? I thought we backed the likes of Conway, Gunnarsson, Hudson because they want to be here and give 100% which what Slade appears to be and wants to give here. I like the guy just for the fact he is excited by the challenge and wants the chance to prove himself. What happened to appreciating someone who wants to be here and will do anything? Because I do remember the attitude of a lot of fans who liked that, backed that even sung the praises to the roof tops.

If Slade gets the job I will be happy and will give him the chance.

I agree with your post but I think the problem and amazement is there are tried and tested managers out there. Most fans expected the experienced managers available to be interviewed and one of those get the job. Slade is a gamble we all no why most expected the safe option that's the problem I have to agree. If he is appointed though we have to get behind him but tan hasn't done himself any more favours with the fan base. Its an important appointment at an important time fans have a right to question it afterall slade wouldn't of been anybodies first choice on here.

The words I saw which instantly drew me in.. 'Reality check'.

I haven't posted for a few days because I been just reading over a lot of supporters views over social media and on here. To be honest with you I am disgusted with the attitude of the supporters of this club.. a majority. Embarrassing tweets on Twitter of our supporters already writing off Russell Slade. The guy hasn't even got the job yet. All down to the Premier League, lot of our fans think were bigger than what we really are. I back the appointment of any manager because they are walking into our club regardless of high payment, transfer backing they still want to be charge and want to do something with our club which I support and love.

I read since the rebrand came about 'Tradition over success' I now see that view as the biggest load of nonsense because I haven't been strong viewed on backing the blue as some people yet them people who are.. are the ones complaining about the manager, the future and path of this club wondering what's next and are worried about possible relegation yet 'League 2 over being in red'. That view is a pure delusional lie to me the things I have read.

Yes we do need a reality check, yes I am sad and I did back Ole because everyone deserves a chance yet I have received abuse on here, twitter, facebook and for what? To want someone who is employed and works for the club.. represents the club to succeed and it just shows the attitude of some which is disgraceful. I haven't supported the club as long as a lot of people.. a thousand people but yet it seems I with a minority seem to wants to back whoever is managing the team. I watched us under Malky and I have walked out of games like Burnley home march 2012? We drew 0-0 on Sunday and my word the football, the whole day just dumb and gloomy but I would still back Malky.. I have knocked him but I always expected him to mix things up from time to time like a master class 4-0 performance which he did do in the 2012/2013 season. I have criticised him since he left down to an overall view of he was, what he wanted to do, how he played. But I still backed him despite the dire football on times. But now it's come to the point where a manager hasn't officially got the job has been written off down to being a league lower. Some even saying 'he's another yes man' yet Annis once met him and had a conversation and never backed the rebrand and got involved so this yes man is a load of tosh.

If he is appointed I won't be disappointed because I will back anyone who will manage by club and try and do the best they can. The guy has left his own job from LO which I assume he does really want the job? I thought we backed the likes of Conway, Gunnarsson, Hudson because they want to be here and give 100% which what Slade appears to be and wants to give here. I like the guy just for the fact he is excited by the challenge and wants the chance to prove himself. What happened to appreciating someone who wants to be here and will do anything? Because I do remember the attitude of a lot of fans who liked that, backed that even sung the praises to the roof tops.

If Slade gets the job I will be happy and will give him the chance.

I agree with your post but I think the problem and amazement is there are tried and tested managers out there. Most fans expected the experienced managers available to be interviewed and one of those get the job. Slade is a gamble we all no why most expected the safe option that's the problem I have to agree. If he is appointed though we have to get behind him but tan hasn't done himself any more favours with the fan base. Its an important appointment at an important time fans have a right to question it afterall slade wouldn't of been anybodies first choice on here.

Yes but it's reality check we are not a big club we just have the money and I would prefer Tan not to fork out stupid amounts for a manager. Everyone is a gamble, not just Slade.