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Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:52 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Sven wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Interesting, my view is that the sacking of Ole was unexpected by Tan and no replacement had been discussed prior, hmm





Thomas, was Ole sacked or did he walk (as stated in the media)? :?

My understanding was that it was recommended to Tan that it was time to pull the plug on Ole, as he was so obviously out of his depth. However, it would appear that Ole instigated the contract termination after the Middlesbrough game and it was agreed with Dalman and Tan the following day

Both men (Dalman and Tan) were exceptionally appreciative of Ole's honesty and integrity and that is why they still view him so highly as a man (and I can't argue with that!) as he effectively saved them the ugly task that was becoming inevitable

I am certainly not ITK on this and your comments would (s always) be appreciated :thumbup: :ayatollah:


What makes me worry Sven is that the termination of the contract of Ole might not of been instigated by the hierachy as i just assumed it was, just when you think they are finally beginning to wake up to the reality that Ole was rubbish and wanting to sort the club out, this has hit me for six tonight, in shock :shock:






Thomas, thanks for this. I agree with you :thumbup:

I think/hope that he walked before he was pushed TBH and things were starting to look bleak

Maybe he (Ole) lost the squad to some degree (that has been hinted at) and it was just a matter of time

Seems the hierarchy had one candidate in mind, but he decided to stay in Dundee, so the search started again

At least we are now in a position where "other candidates are being considered" and we can only hope they get it right :thumbup:

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:54 pm

I thought there was going to be more twists and turns and it doesn't look like it will end for a while :?

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:58 pm

Are we looking then for a manager who knows league one well so we can get some cheaper lower league players in ?

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:01 pm

MalagaCF wrote:Are we looking then for a manager who knows league one well so we can get some cheaper lower league players in ?


Well, the hierarchy seem to change the philosophy of the club according to which way the wind blows. If Slade is appointed he won't be backed with money in my opinion. maybe they are indeed pulling the plug on player investments :bluescarf:

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:02 pm

Carpe Diem wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Interesting, my view is that the sacking of Ole was unexpected by Tan and no replacement had been discussed prior, hmm


Totally with you on that Thomas :thumbright:
Thats why finding a new manager will take longer than fans think.


Better to take the time and make the right choice. Hopefully he will be manager for many years to come so a couple of weeks won't matter if it comes to that :ayatollah:


Totally agree and I hope the next manager is, we need stability at our club :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:03 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:I thought there was going to be more twists and turns and it doesn't look like it will end for a while :?


I reckon plenty Nukes and prob a shock manager that no one thought of :lol:

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:I thought there was going to be more twists and turns and it doesn't look like it will end for a while :?


I reckon plenty Nukes and prob a shock manager that no one thought of :lol:

Dont rule out Coops Chief he is still right up there at the top. And he gets on with Tan tops mate.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:44 pm

What's that about Ole's car being keyed? Well out of order, if true.[/quote]

It was on the board after the Borough game. Yes, bang out of order. Probably why he wanted to hand it back.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:08 pm

Staff wrote:Russell Slade has not resigned as Leyton Orient manager, he has not been offered the position of manager at Cardiff City either. However Slade is in the frame but there have been no talks between Slade and Tan Sri Vincent Tan.

Dave Jones is another in the running and has spoken with Tan Sri over a return to the club and it is the owners intention to bring the former manager back into the fold. Tan Sri is pursuing Jones but it appears that Jones is not overly positive in returning in the position of advisor that is being considered.

Kevin Cooper is not in the running for the job, Cooper and Tan Sri did not have the best working relationship while Cooper was at the club before departing for Servette.

The management team for Tuesday's cup match versus Bournemouth will be Scott Young and Danny Gabbidon.


Does Tan own Servette? Simon Lim is there and Julian Jenkins as well as Cooper.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:26 pm

bspark wrote:
Staff wrote:Russell Slade has not resigned as Leyton Orient manager, he has not been offered the position of manager at Cardiff City either. However Slade is in the frame but there have been no talks between Slade and Tan Sri Vincent Tan.

Dave Jones is another in the running and has spoken with Tan Sri over a return to the club and it is the owners intention to bring the former manager back into the fold. Tan Sri is pursuing Jones but it appears that Jones is not overly positive in returning in the position of advisor that is being considered.

Kevin Cooper is not in the running for the job, Cooper and Tan Sri did not have the best working relationship while Cooper was at the club before departing for Servette.

The management team for Tuesday's cup match versus Bournemouth will be Scott Young and Danny Gabbidon.


Does Tan own Servette? Simon Lim is there and Julian Jenkins as well as Cooper.


No Tan dos not own Servette, Nothing at all to do with him.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:48 am

I really think that Scott and Gabbs should be given a chance. Against Derby there was a lot which was totally lacking under Ole - passion, team spirit and purpose.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:18 am

Get Steve Clarke in. It's a no brainer.

Why do they even want to contemplate gambling on a lower league journeyman who has only ever worked with lower league players?

Cardiff City is a big job, and needs an experienced manager with connections and a backroom staff to boot.

Slade would be a massive step backwards.

Gabbs & Young should not be contemplated; by all means keep them in coaching roles but management is a whole different level for those 2, however "passionate" they are.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:09 am

I'd go for Steve Clarke as head coach and if the club want to adopt the director of football role someone like Alan Curbishley or Ray Wilkins could fit the bill.

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:07 am

THE DON wrote:I'd go for Steve Clarke as head coach and if the club want to adopt the director of football role someone like Alan Curbishley or Ray Wilkins could fit the bill.


Good shout but far far too sensible :lol: :thumbright: :thumbup: the set-up you suggest is very appealing.

I'm very confused now, we are looking for a 'young and hungry' manager then want to interview Slade who is vastly experienced in lower league football. on that basis, I'm bracing myself for a shock if they want interview candidates that don't match the criteria they imposed! Utter madness

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 11:34 am

lol think everyone is confused, hear so many rumors and different stories :D

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:01 pm

Logie wrote:lol think everyone is confused, hear so many rumors and different stories :D


Well I have taken stock of all the rumours and analysed them all with deep thoughts and have come to the conclusion it is definately going to be Leo Fortune West

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:34 pm

THE DON wrote:I'd go for Steve Clarke as head coach and if the club want to adopt the director of football role someone like Alan Curbishley or Ray Wilkins could fit the bill.


Wilkins has just started in the role of National Team Manager of Jordon. Won't be available

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 12:54 pm

ThomasC wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Sven wrote:
ThomasC wrote:Interesting, my view is that the sacking of Ole was unexpected by Tan and no replacement had been discussed prior, hmm





Thomas, was Ole sacked or did he walk (as stated in the media)? :?

My understanding was that it was recommended to Tan that it was time to pull the plug on Ole, as he was so obviously out of his depth. However, it would appear that Ole instigated the contract termination after the Middlesbrough game and it was agreed with Dalman and Tan the following day

Both men (Dalman and Tan) were exceptionally appreciative of Ole's honesty and integrity and that is why they still view him so highly as a man (and I can't argue with that!) as he effectively saved them the ugly task that was becoming inevitable

I am certainly not ITK on this and your comments would (s always) be appreciated :thumbup: :ayatollah:


What makes me worry Sven is that the termination of the contract of Ole might not of been instigated by the hierachy as i just assumed it was, just when you think they are finally beginning to wake up to the reality that Ole was rubbish and wanting to sort the club out, this has hit me for six tonight, in shock :shock:


was widely reported on radio wales that ole asked for the meeting that lead to his departure if that helps! :thumbup:


Thanks Allan! Honestly never thought Ole was looking for a way out. Missed that! :ayatollah: :ayatollah: to think it took Ole and not the club to stop the farce from carrying on is severely depressing


tbh think he new his time was up as i said before its ok to swap and change team but not at beginning of season! you firstly got to be established playing pattern then introduce rotation gradually especially, in champ its is a good policy and we do have squad to implement it but not in way ole set about it! unfortunately he was doomed to fail. as for wade i think it may be what city need someone who is here for long term rather than a quike fix in pulis or lennon, after all cannot see us as relegation candidates who ever is in charge. so why not go with a new face at least he knows the score unlike ole. :thumbup:


If there is choppy water ahead for the club, we need someone who is experienced enough to deal with it, I can't help leaning towards Slade as the right man for the job, I also think you are right that more high profile managers are less likely to stick around for the long term.:bluescarf: :bluescarf:



I think whichever direction we go in, we're going to encounter choppy water unfortunately. Icebergs are easy to see after you've hit them. I think Slade could do a good job. a quick bit from today's Dydd Llun Te

"There have been a number of bookie’s favourites since, though the next approach seems to have been made to Russell Slade of League One side Leyton Orient.

Cardiff fans seem to be split on this decision, quite understandably. Slade has been fairly lauded by some of the Orient fans for saving them from relegation and last year narrowly missed promotion to the Championship, on penalties. A lot of Bluebirds supporters are saying that he may not have what it takes, playing a league above his current standing (and one he’s never managed in before).

For me, his awards and fan applause say a lot. Three Manager of the Month awards, and a Manager of the Year award, while won in a lower league, are not unimportant. His fans have given him credit for being a great man manager, and inspiring confidence and passion in his players. It’s a touchy one, and certainly a throw of the dice for Vincent Tan, who has put himself in charge of finding Ole Gunnar’s replacement. Is it a gamble which would pay off, only time will tell on that one."

http://cardiff.gsofootball.com/2014/09/22/dydd-llun-te-27-09-14/

Re: ' Latest on CCFC manager target '

Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:30 pm

THE DON wrote:I'd go for Steve Clarke as head coach and if the club want to adopt the director of football role someone like Alan Curbishley or Ray Wilkins could fit the bill.

Don't need a director of football. All is needed is a decent no 2 who has excellent coaching ability.