Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:59 am
SwampCCFC wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.
if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.
whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.
Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:02 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.
if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.
whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.
I agree with what you say and the comments are derogatory in nature and not the language a professional manager should be using. Calling a Chinese man a chink does also not automatically make you a racist.
Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:05 pm
Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:26 pm
Bluebird64 wrote:SwampCCFC wrote:Bluebird64 wrote:Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.
if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.
whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.
I agree with what you say and the comments are derogatory in nature and not the language a professional manager should be using. Calling a Chinese man a chink does also not automatically make you a racist.
Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:51 pm
Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:25 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.
Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.
Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?
Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:43 pm
AlwaysBBlue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:AlwaysBBlue wrote:shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.
we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)
but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.
but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person
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if thats all you have to say about what i've said then it tells its own story mate. I'd never want a f*cking racist at my club, if you would then it says a lot about you
Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:44 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.
Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.
Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?
Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:21 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.
Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.
Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?
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Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:47 am
Nuclearblue wrote:It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:48 am
Nuclearblue wrote:It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:49 am
Nuclearblue wrote:It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:41 am
Nuclearblue wrote:AlwaysBBlue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:AlwaysBBlue wrote:shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.
we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)
but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.
but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person
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if thats all you have to say about what i've said then it tells its own story mate. I'd never want a f*cking racist at my club, if you would then it says a lot about you
Can't be arsed arguing with you. You have nothing I want to listen to.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:07 am
Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:38 am
Nuclearblue wrote:Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:52 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:55 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.
Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.
Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?
Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:58 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.
Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.
Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?
Not to add what Nat Jarvis was saying about him...
I loved Mackay & I feel really let down with him, but his actions towards the players he was responsible for are indefensible.
Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:36 pm
Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:48 pm
Cardiff Daft! wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.
Yeah because white men dont rape eh!
Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:38 am
Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:40 am
Jinks wrote:Malky fucked up big time and has possibly ruined his career. only has himself to blame and no amount of the same threads will change that.