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Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:59 am

SwampCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.


if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.

whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.

I agree with what you say and the comments are derogatory in nature and not the language a professional manager should be using. Calling a Chinese man a chink does also not automatically make you a racist.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:02 pm

Bluebird64 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.


if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.

whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.

I agree with what you say and the comments are derogatory in nature and not the language a professional manager should be using. Calling a Chinese man a chink does also not automatically make you a racist.


no it doesn't, not in every case anyway, but in my experience it does unviel a side of someone that wouldn't be otherwise apparent in many cases. and if the volume and frequency of the texts truely is as reported then its pretty undeniable that malky is a racist.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:05 pm

I'm sure the investigation will unveil the extent of wrongdoing so we will have to reserve judgement till then.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:26 pm

Bluebird64 wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
Bluebird64 wrote:Like I said its a total overreaction. The FA will obviously have to condemn any evidence however remote in relation to comments perceived as having the smallest of racial slurs. What posters on here are doing is to brand Malky a complete racist which is clearly not the case. His words are not well chosen and derogatory in nature but nothing else and yes he should know better especially given his position. Many of us have called Chinese chinkys or referred to other nationalities in a similar way but this clearly does not make us racists and anyone who believes this is bonkers.


if a man on the street (say a shop manager) called his staff chinks in private messages and got caught, he would be reprimanded.

whether that in itself makes you a racist is not the issue. the issue is that its unacceptable, and mackay himself knows it. he called for zero tolerance in one of his 'holier than thou' interviews, so its impossible for me to have any sympathy with him whatsoever.

I agree with what you say and the comments are derogatory in nature and not the language a professional manager should be using. Calling a Chinese man a chink does also not automatically make you a racist.


again, this is not about whether mackay is racist or not, i've already given my views on that.

however,what i think we can agree on is that its completely unacceptable to use derogatory terms like that when you are in the public eye. therefore he should be punished. the comment was made using club property, during working for CCFC, therefore the FA should be interested.

i'm not calling for the electric chair, just a proportionate punishment.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:51 pm

So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.

Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.

Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:25 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.

Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.

Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?

I don't think nukes is man enough to admit to anything.I used to like nukes posts but not anymore.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:43 pm

AlwaysBBlue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.

we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)

but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.

but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person

:lol: :lol: :lol: Fair play you are a tool :laughing6:


if thats all you have to say about what i've said then it tells its own story mate. I'd never want a f*cking racist at my club, if you would then it says a lot about you

Can't be arsed arguing with you. You have nothing I want to listen to.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:44 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.

Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.

Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?

No he's a camel shagger :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:21 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.

Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.

Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?

No he's a camel shagger :lol: :lol: :lol:


Anyone would think you are 12 years old some of your posts are just pathetic on here

Fishing for hits no doubt as no one can be this blantantly controversial

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:47 am

Nuclearblue wrote:It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.


Blaming tan for digging up dirt :lol: f**k malky he dug his own hole.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:48 am

Nuclearblue wrote:It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.


Fully agree look whats happened In Rotherham for feer of the police being called racialist they did nothing. Malky did wrong yes but come on everyone is guilty of it at some point

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:49 am

Nuclearblue wrote:It is going well over board it's embarrassing. Let he without sin cast the first stone. Tell me anyone that you would not have anything on your phone past or present that if it was analysed would not land you in hot water or be an embarrassment.
Did Malky kill or rape anyone ? On the news ISIS have rampaged across Iraq on a mass murder spree and James Foley was beheaded. But nothing said because a much more heinous crime was committed when Malky sent some rather nasty hurtful texts that was only meant for one persons eyes. But Tan deliberately set out to dig up dirt on Malky so he didn't have to pay him compensation.
So all you fooking goody two shoes Carry on in your quest to destroy a man that yes made a mistake, I know I first reported it but I just said what happened I ain't judging the man.


Fully agree look whats happened In Rotherham for feer of the police being called racialist they did nothing. Malky did wrong yes but come on everyone is guilty of it at some point

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 9:41 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
AlwaysBBlue wrote:shocked at malky being defended...not shocked at who's defending him.

we must remember that the op is the man who said he wouldn't move next to a romanian because he'd be worried about them going through his bins (it was truly as hilarious as it sounds)

but yeah, this "everybody is a bit racist" defense is shocking but understandable, for people like nukes and brownie it must be pretty bad to see that attitudes are changing, and what was once acceptable is now seen as wrong (rightly so), it probably makes them feel old more than anything.

but just to be clear, my phone could be taken from me as i type this and i wouldn't be landed in hot water. Now thats not because i'm a saint or because im a "do gooder" but because i have never felt the need to judge/abuse someone, to any degree, based on their race...sorry if that somehow makes me a bad person

:lol: :lol: :lol: Fair play you are a tool :laughing6:


if thats all you have to say about what i've said then it tells its own story mate. I'd never want a f*cking racist at my club, if you would then it says a lot about you

Can't be arsed arguing with you. You have nothing I want to listen to.


what like reason and ideals that are from this century?

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:07 am

Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 11:38 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.


Yeah because white men dont rape eh! :roll:

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:52 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.


no it f*cking isnt nukes, theres a difference between not being racist and being afraid of being called a racist.

if you think the f*cking idiots in rotherham who didnt act on information given to them were the same as people like me who think you shouldnt judge someone on there ethnic background ALONE then you're more of a f*cking idiot than i thought.

people like you are whats holding society back. you're a f*cking idiot. and TBH i think its really f*cking low that you use the rotherham scandle against people who just want a fairer society...like REALLY REALLY low. You should be ashamed of yourself. Using rape to get one up on someone you don't even know...u feel like a big man now?

f*cking loser

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:55 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.

Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.

Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?


Not to add what Nat Jarvis was saying about him...

I loved Mackay & I feel really let down with him, but his actions towards the players he was responsible for are indefensible.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:58 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:So does the OP think it's okay to call someone the "wee egyptian" even though he was bore here. Perhaps he should call Annis that all the time.

Does the OP think it's acceptable to say to a group of people "Look it's Ibbys brother" whilst pointing at another Asian lad. I don't. I don't care about the texts, iv'e done it before (Not on a works phone though) but mocking a young lad for his skin colour in front of the rest of his colleagues is wrong.

Nukes are you going to openly admit to being a racist now?


Not to add what Nat Jarvis was saying about him...

I loved Mackay & I feel really let down with him, but his actions towards the players he was responsible for are indefensible.


unfortunatly not everyone feels the same way, but usually they are really just defending their own attitudes and actions.

if you have racist view and then the world condems them, you start to get defensive, many 'malky defenders' are just secretly defending themselvesd and its sad really

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 2:36 pm

Indefensible is correct and he'll pay the price,in a way sad to see but he's got no excuses.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:48 pm

Cardiff Daft! wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Your ideals and reasons are why 1400 kids were left to be raped. Nah you can shove your goody two shoes PC shit where the sun dont shine.


Yeah because white men dont rape eh! :roll:

They do yes very much so but they are prosecuted.

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:38 am

Malky fucked up big time and has possibly ruined his career. only has himself to blame and no amount of the same threads will change that. :thumbup:

Re: All this feel betrayed about Malky shite

Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:40 am

Jinks wrote:Malky fucked up big time and has possibly ruined his career. only has himself to blame and no amount of the same threads will change that. :thumbup:

What about the rebrand jinks all 200000 threads on it will they change that :laughing6: