' Make us blue and we'll forgive you '

I'll never forgive him, hate the man.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Sshhhhhh people wants the fans to forget all that and chant 'Tan Out'

Gav, another potential problem here is Tan is unlikely to budge if people keep refer to it as (quote one wag): "if Tan admits his mistake"

He's hardly likely to do that and IF (and I don't think it will) it were to happen, then it will be done on HIS terms and not those of a few disgruntled fans who are too pig-headed to admit their own mistakes on a number of Tan/CCFC related matters!

Personally, I think Tan has played a 'blinder' on this one and I think can see "the tide is turning"

That puts him in a very strong position (as if he wasn't already) which has potential for some sort of conciliatory action so long as it is given in return

Exactly Chris, I just can't believe some fans pig-headedness

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Sshhhhhh people wants the fans to forget all that and chant 'Tan Out'

Increase the capacity with a red stand.
Still no debt to equity as promised.
Failed to sack Malky earlier if he knew all this was going on.
Why did he not sort out the racism in the club when we were pushing for promotion?

Depends how you look at things I suppose.

Yes Ian you will always twist things to have a pop at Tan. That's your prerogative of course.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

I don't recall going back to him or as an ST then being asked.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

Who this "WE" that decided we wanted the rebrand

Be nice if he does do that next season

Be nice if he does do that next season

You doing Fulham?

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

Who this "WE" that decided we wanted the rebrand

Haven't Annis and Carl spoken about this? They were privy to discussions weren't they?

There was a widespread push from fans wanting the investment. There were a few who resisted but the majority stayed silent while we were winning the championship title.

It's never going to happen under Tan, he's too stubborn to admit his mistakes.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

What have the Romans ever done for us ???

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

I believe you speak for the majority of our supporters

Racism, sexism, homophobic, all disrespectful traits, just like he has done to our support by disrespecting club traditions. It's at least 90% blue these days...so Tan is just as bad....

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

It's a little more complicated than you suggest but in essence you're right - Cardiff City fans, in the main, and reluctantly or otherwise accepted the investment (which is, of course, actually debt charged at 7% interest) in exchange for a significant part of the club's identity.

Apart from a handful of us who have boycotted the club since May 2012, Cardiff City fans have financially propped up Vincent Tan's rebrand by going through the turnstiles. I am trying not to sound holier than thou because I personally have an awful lot of friends who hate the rebrand but felt unable to give up their football fix. Maccydee is right though - Cardiff City fans most certainly did have a choice and the overwhelming majority voted with their feet and continued to attend matches. It's also fair to say that as much as many supporters continued to hate the rebrand, they were still on the pitch and at the City centre parade in May 2013 celebrating the promotion of the bastardised club.

Let's have some honesty here too, until a brave lady called Sian Branson took matters into her own hands, there was barely a murmur of protest for the first year either. The worse things got on the pitch, the bluer the fanbase got. Funny that...

He needs to say sorry for the red, we need to say sorry on the Malky saga!

Imagine how good the feeling around the club would be if we returned to blue!

That's it though he's getting nothing from me whilst we play in red. No compromise either, it has to be blue.

WISE UP mate. That's exactly the attitude that's stopping us achieving a move back to blue.

What makes you think that you are in any position to change Tan's mind with that kind of approach is beyond me.

And you say it like you're speaking on behalf of all city fans. I reality that kind of stupid approach won't get us anywhere.

I clearly said nothing from me, Im not speaking for anyone else. Please tell me wise one, whats your great plan to get us back in blue. The bloke has no respect for us or our heritage full stop.

forgive him for what? for the hell we gave him during the Malky saga?!

if anyoone should be forgiving it's Tan forgiving us for running our mouths without knowing the facts.

Go away.

Tan has torn ccfc to bits and divided the club. For me I never accepted the rebrand in fact I have always hated it with a passion still do.
My choice was to keep going to games and where blue in the early days of the rebrand I felt heavily out numbered with fans in red the worst being the free red scarf game. That game almost brought me to tears for the see of red I saw. The other low was promotion everyone running on the pitch going mad while I sat in the stands gutted be because it was my childhood dream to play in the top flight against the giants in football. In red it was all wrong didn't feel at all right infact I felt that the ccfc I followed since 1978 had gone.
I have never stopped going to games as my children although hated the red wanted to watch city.i have always supported ccfc through think and thin so I thought no man colour or anything is pushing me away.

My resolve is being tested every game as I love my team but hate the badge and colour of the shirts the go against the symbol of ccfc which is blue all my pride and passion is devoted to it actually hurts me to see it but ive never turned my back on my team even in these times which I think have been the hardest supporting ccfc in over 30 years.
I dont understand in my opinion how people say vt has been good for ccfc.he changed are proud identity just to suit his own culture and preferences.

We owe tan well over 100 million pounds which is a terrible position to be in as a football club.i also believe tan went out of his way to ruin malky maybe to propel himself up in the thoughts of fans .
Malky did wrong I no put sorry tan is just a creepy school prefect.

Anyway I just wanted to say tan for me has ruined my club and I dont believe he wiil ever change us back to blue which is why I want tan Out

Agreed wholeheartedly.

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

It's a little more complicated than you suggest but in essence you're right - Cardiff City fans, in the main, and reluctantly or otherwise accepted the investment (which is, of course, actually debt charged at 7% interest) in exchange for a significant part of the club's identity.

Apart from a handful of us who have boycotted the club since May 2012, Cardiff City fans have financially propped up Vincent Tan's rebrand by going through the turnstiles. I am trying not to sound holier than thou because I personally have an awful lot of friends who hate the rebrand but felt unable to give up their football fix. Maccydee is right though - Cardiff City fans most certainly did have a choice and the overwhelming majority voted with their feet and continued to attend matches. It's also fair to say that as much as many supporters continued to hate the rebrand, they were still on the pitch and at the City centre parade in May 2013 celebrating the promotion of the bastardised club.

Let's have some honesty here too, until a brave lady called Sian Branson took matters into her own hands, there was barely a murmur of protest for the first year either. The worse things got on the pitch, the bluer the fanbase got. Funny that...

Didn't he say that he's not charging interest?

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

Forgive him for enforcing his horrific rebrand on the club.

FFs he would not have enforced the rebrand had the fans not gone back to him wanting the £100 million investment. We fucked up not Tan. Tan was straight all the time. Was giving it, took it back once a backlash came, gave it back when we decided we wanted the investment.

It's a little more complicated than you suggest but in essence you're right - Cardiff City fans, in the main, and reluctantly or otherwise accepted the investment (which is, of course, actually debt charged at 7% interest) in exchange for a significant part of the club's identity.

Apart from a handful of us who have boycotted the club since May 2012, Cardiff City fans have financially propped up Vincent Tan's rebrand by going through the turnstiles. I am trying not to sound holier than thou because I personally have an awful lot of friends who hate the rebrand but felt unable to give up their football fix. Maccydee is right though - Cardiff City fans most certainly did have a choice and the overwhelming majority voted with their feet and continued to attend matches. It's also fair to say that as much as many supporters continued to hate the rebrand, they were still on the pitch and at the City centre parade in May 2013 celebrating the promotion of the bastardised club.

Let's have some honesty here too, until a brave lady called Sian Branson took matters into her own hands, there was barely a murmur of protest for the first year either. The worse things got on the pitch, the bluer the fanbase got. Funny that...

Didn't he say that he's not charging interest?

He did and he's kept to his word. But some people won't let FACTS get in the way of a sob story.

Tan has torn ccfc to bits and divided the club. For me I never accepted the rebrand in fact I have always hated it with a passion still do.
My choice was to keep going to games and where blue in the early days of the rebrand I felt heavily out numbered with fans in red the worst being the free red scarf game. That game almost brought me to tears for the see of red I saw. The other low was promotion everyone running on the pitch going mad while I sat in the stands gutted be because it was my childhood dream to play in the top flight against the giants in football. In red it was all wrong didn't feel at all right infact I felt that the ccfc I followed since 1978 had gone.
I have never stopped going to games as my children although hated the red wanted to watch city.i have always supported ccfc through think and thin so I thought no man colour or anything is pushing me away.

My resolve is being tested every game as I love my team but hate the badge and colour of the shirts the go against the symbol of ccfc which is blue all my pride and passion is devoted to it actually hurts me to see it but ive never turned my back on my team even in these times which I think have been the hardest supporting ccfc in over 30 years.
I dont understand in my opinion how people say vt has been good for ccfc.he changed are proud identity just to suit his own culture and preferences.

We owe tan well over 100 million pounds which is a terrible position to be in as a football club.i also believe tan went out of his way to ruin malky maybe to propel himself up in the thoughts of fans .
Malky did wrong I no put sorry tan is just a creepy school prefect.

Anyway I just wanted to say tan for me has ruined my club and I dont believe he wiil ever change us back to blue which is why I want tan Out

Spoken from the heart of a true old school City fan. Well done mate!

Tan has torn ccfc to bits and divided the club. For me I never accepted the rebrand in fact I have always hated it with a passion still do.
My choice was to keep going to games and where blue in the early days of the rebrand I felt heavily out numbered with fans in red the worst being the free red scarf game. That game almost brought me to tears for the see of red I saw. The other low was promotion everyone running on the pitch going mad while I sat in the stands gutted be because it was my childhood dream to play in the top flight against the giants in football. In red it was all wrong didn't feel at all right infact I felt that the ccfc I followed since 1978 had gone.
I have never stopped going to games as my children although hated the red wanted to watch city.i have always supported ccfc through think and thin so I thought no man colour or anything is pushing me away.

My resolve is being tested every game as I love my team but hate the badge and colour of the shirts the go against the symbol of ccfc which is blue all my pride and passion is devoted to it actually hurts me to see it but ive never turned my back on my team even in these times which I think have been the hardest supporting ccfc in over 30 years.
I dont understand in my opinion how people say vt has been good for ccfc.he changed are proud identity just to suit his own culture and preferences.

We owe tan well over 100 million pounds which is a terrible position to be in as a football club.i also believe tan went out of his way to ruin malky maybe to propel himself up in the thoughts of fans .
Malky did wrong I no put sorry tan is just a creepy school prefect.

Anyway I just wanted to say tan for me has ruined my club and I dont believe he wiil ever change us back to blue which is why I want tan Out

A good balanced sensible post, and I can understand your feelings concerning the rebrand, as I also feel a loss of identity since we lost our traditional blue. Where I don't agree with you entirely is where some people may think Tan has been good for the club, because I am not sure we would still have a club if he hadn't stepped in when he did.

Tan has torn ccfc to bits and divided the club. For me I never accepted the rebrand in fact I have always hated it with a passion still do.
My choice was to keep going to games and where blue in the early days of the rebrand I felt heavily out numbered with fans in red the worst being the free red scarf game. That game almost brought me to tears for the see of red I saw. The other low was promotion everyone running on the pitch going mad while I sat in the stands gutted be because it was my childhood dream to play in the top flight against the giants in football. In red it was all wrong didn't feel at all right infact I felt that the ccfc I followed since 1978 had gone.
I have never stopped going to games as my children although hated the red wanted to watch city.i have always supported ccfc through think and thin so I thought no man colour or anything is pushing me away.

My resolve is being tested every game as I love my team but hate the badge and colour of the shirts the go against the symbol of ccfc which is blue all my pride and passion is devoted to it actually hurts me to see it but ive never turned my back on my team even in these times which I think have been the hardest supporting ccfc in over 30 years.
I dont understand in my opinion how people say vt has been good for ccfc.he changed are proud identity just to suit his own culture and preferences.

We owe tan well over 100 million pounds which is a terrible position to be in as a football club.i also believe tan went out of his way to ruin malky maybe to propel himself up in the thoughts of fans .
Malky did wrong I no put sorry tan is just a creepy school prefect.

Anyway I just wanted to say tan for me has ruined my club and I dont believe he wiil ever change us back to blue which is why I want tan Out

Sums up the way I feel in a nutshell mate

Tan has torn ccfc to bits and divided the club. For me I never accepted the rebrand in fact I have always hated it with a passion still do.
My choice was to keep going to games and where blue in the early days of the rebrand I felt heavily out numbered with fans in red the worst being the free red scarf game. That game almost brought me to tears for the see of red I saw. The other low was promotion everyone running on the pitch going mad while I sat in the stands gutted be because it was my childhood dream to play in the top flight against the giants in football. In red it was all wrong didn't feel at all right infact I felt that the ccfc I followed since 1978 had gone.
I have never stopped going to games as my children although hated the red wanted to watch city.i have always supported ccfc through think and thin so I thought no man colour or anything is pushing me away.

My resolve is being tested every game as I love my team but hate the badge and colour of the shirts the go against the symbol of ccfc which is blue all my pride and passion is devoted to it actually hurts me to see it but ive never turned my back on my team even in these times which I think have been the hardest supporting ccfc in over 30 years.
I dont understand in my opinion how people say vt has been good for ccfc.he changed are proud identity just to suit his own culture and preferences.

We owe tan well over 100 million pounds which is a terrible position to be in as a football club.i also believe tan went out of his way to ruin malky maybe to propel himself up in the thoughts of fans .
Malky did wrong I no put sorry tan is just a creepy school prefect.

Anyway I just wanted to say tan for me has ruined my club and I dont believe he wiil ever change us back to blue which is why I want tan Out

Sums up the way I feel in a nutshell mate

Moden football is destroying are game we all love and vt for me is the symbol of all of it as hes destroyed ccfc. The day he leaves ill be happier lot of old school fans feel the same as us mate

Yo Dre Dawg You are a glaringly obvious troll

and you, sir, are a gay snake*.













* (c) 2013 Malky Mackay Inc. used by express permission

Yo Slim , you are very very obsessed with Mr McKay . Thin line between love and hate so they say?
Now to return to the original topic of this post. Yes I actually think that Many fans will let bygones be bygones with tan if he did the honourable thing and changed us back to blue and admit he was an im imbecile for changing us in the first place

i don't know if you and i agree on stuff, to my knowledge we've never actually spoken. but if we DO ever disagree on this forum then i DEMAND that its all done in rhymes...remember this post!

Make us blue and we'll forgive you !!!!

Who the hell is speaking on my behalf now ????????

Just return us blue, whats there to forgive. Lifes too short and then some will only moan about the stadium, women and kids at football, new fans, old fans, swap the canton and grange, the beer is shit and expensive, the food is shit, we treat our vistors like stars but we get treated like shit, no singing, Whitts doesn't try, our manager is inept, gunnar can't throw, Hudson too slow, turner can't pass, Kenwynn started off good, Marshall scared of crosses, why no sell on for ramsey,

And it will all be Tans fault !!!!

Stadium beer prices only gone up 10p ...... result !!

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

I think not, point well made!

What's the egg? (Also good points)

Forgive him for what?

Stopping HMRC liquidating our club.
Giving an average manager an exceptional budget to get us promoted to the Premiership?
Buying good players with sell on value?
Sorting the pitch out?
Increasing the capacity?
Getting rid of the egg?
Getting rid of Langstone?
Getting rid of PMG?
Being proven right in sacking Malky and Moody?
Ensuring we get good value for our players after our relegation?
Buying a squad that is full of quality and hopefully will take us back to the Premiership?

Anymore for anymore?

I think not, point well made!

What's the egg? (Also good points)

cardiff blues (egg chasers)