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Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:08 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Don't you temp people out brownie? You concern me with some of your comments lol


It's actually against the law to give a bad reference. It can be worded as 'we would not employ him again' or something similar but anything more direct is actually against the law


Exactly but no one has given a bad reference.
But if people kept saying outside of that he is dodgy and a bad egg would you still temp him out?

This is clearly not a case of Malky just being unlucky.


Believe me when I say there are many bitter ex-employers out there

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:09 pm

Mirror Sport also understands Moody is now set to resign from his post after lengthy discussions with co-chairman Steve Parish. :o

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... er-4081081

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:11 pm

A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Don't you temp people out brownie? You concern me with some of your comments lol


It's actually against the law to give a bad reference. It can be worded as 'we would not employ him again' or something similar but anything more direct is actually against the law


Don't be so silly. It's the law to give a fair and accurate reference but it doesn't have to be a good reference. What would be the point in a reference at all if it was just going to be good ?


It's fact, you cannot give a directly bad reference. That's why many of the larger firms now will just give you a standard written reference with the name changed at the top.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:12 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Mardon89 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Mardon89 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

Surely if whatever happens is that bad as a responsible employer you have a duty to inform any other future employers of that? Isn't that what a reference check is....


It is actually against the law to give a bad employment reference

There is a difference between a bad reference and someone who has been naughty as you should know in your business. I have done recruitment and we dismissed someone for a 'bad' reference because they lied and had been naughty in their last employment.


If you read the amount I was responding to rather than constantly trying to pick an argument maybe you will understand why I used the word 'reference' because the person who made the comment I responded too used the words 'work reference'..

Party, you are nothing but a troll FFS!!!! :laughing5:

I honestly wasn't trying to pick an argument but your comment that giving a bad reference is against the law isn't factually correct that's all. An employer is entitled to tell the truth, if someone had been naughty they can state they were dismissed or if under investigation they can state that, however they can NOT disclose the exact details of the incident. Why Tan didn't submit the dossier earlier is beyond me but it does seem that this is certainly driven by Tan's pride and nothing else.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:13 pm

Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:Don't you temp people out brownie? You concern me with some of your comments lol


It's actually against the law to give a bad reference. It can be worded as 'we would not employ him again' or something similar but anything more direct is actually against the law


Don't be so silly. It's the law to give a fair and accurate reference but it doesn't have to be a good reference. What would be the point in a reference at all if it was just going to be good ?


It's fact, you cannot give a directly bad reference. That's why many of the larger firms now will just give you a standard written reference with the name changed at the top.


https://www.gov.uk/work-reference

It's not fact. Fact is you can give a bad reference if it is fair, accurate and justifiable. Although if isn't justifiable the company can be taken to court for giving an unfair reference.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:14 pm

I don't think it is against the law to give a bad reference. It is against the law to give an unfactual reference, and one based purely on an opinion. It can be bad, but you had better be able to back up why it is bad.
If Tan has scuppered Malkys move to Palarse, then surely you would expect to see Moody out soon as well? Particularly as he was the one who approached City employees for the team sheet and tactics, and then turned up to watch the game in the away end. I would have a problem with him.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:14 pm

Mardon89 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Mardon89 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Mardon89 wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

Surely if whatever happens is that bad as a responsible employer you have a duty to inform any other future employers of that? Isn't that what a reference check is....


It is actually against the law to give a bad employment reference

There is a difference between a bad reference and someone who has been naughty as you should know in your business. I have done recruitment and we dismissed someone for a 'bad' reference because they lied and had been naughty in their last employment.


If you read the amount I was responding to rather than constantly trying to pick an argument maybe you will understand why I used the word 'reference' because the person who made the comment I responded too used the words 'work reference'..

Party, you are nothing but a troll FFS!!!! :laughing5:

I honestly wasn't trying to pick an argument but your comment that giving a bad reference is against the law isn't factually correct that's all. An employer is entitled to tell the truth, if someone had been naughty they can state they were dismissed or if under investigation they can state that, however they can NOT disclose the exact details of the incident. Why Tan didn't submit the dossier earlier is beyond me but it does seem that this is certainly driven by Tan's pride and nothing else.


I wasn't responding to you mate I was responding to Party. However You confirmed what I did say 'you cannot give a DIRECT bad reference' in direct I mean going into personal issues

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:17 pm

I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:17 pm

Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:18 pm

Sky's report that Moody could be on his way out now makes things even more interesting.

What exactly did these fuckers do to our club? We should know, in my opinion

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:20 pm

A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.


Maybe, but if that was offered on the table and you were Palace then it would be a fair cheaper exercise to take that offer than go to court

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:23 pm

Really hope we (Palace) get rid of moody.

Ill be pleased to see the back of him, been nothing but trouble.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:23 pm

Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.


Maybe, but if that was offered on the table and you were Palace then it would be a fair cheaper exercise to take that offer than go to court


And if your cardiff it's pathetic as we gain nothing at all and have everything at risk. We could be hit financially very hard if found guilty...

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:25 pm

A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.


Maybe, but if that was offered on the table and you were Palace then it would be a fair cheaper exercise to take that offer than go to court


And if your cardiff it's pathetic as we gain nothing at all and have everything at risk. We could be hit financially very hard if found guilty...


It wasn't long ago Tan was guilty of offering cash to players at half time FFS!!! He doesn't give a shit, there are so many things that happen

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:25 pm

Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.


Maybe, but if that was offered on the table and you were Palace then it would be a fair cheaper exercise to take that offer than go to court


And if your cardiff it's pathetic as we gain nothing at all and have everything at risk. We could be hit financially very hard if found guilty...


It wasn't long ago Tan was guilty of offering cash to players at half time FFS!!! He doesn't give a shit


More to do with not knowing the rules your looking at things through tinted glasses and your suggestions are ludicrous in my opinion.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:33 pm

A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.


Maybe, but if that was offered on the table and you were Palace then it would be a fair cheaper exercise to take that offer than go to court


And if your cardiff it's pathetic as we gain nothing at all and have everything at risk. We could be hit financially very hard if found guilty...


It wasn't long ago Tan was guilty of offering cash to players at half time FFS!!! He doesn't give a shit


More to do with not knowing the rules your looking at things through tinted glasses and your suggestions are ludicrous in my opinion.


Not knowing the rules could go for anything through couldn't it

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:37 pm

Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
A block wrote:
Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Unlikely.

We would be in very big trouble and I don't think he is that pathetic. He obviously has somethjing concrete on Malky.


Maybe, but if that was offered on the table and you were Palace then it would be a fair cheaper exercise to take that offer than go to court


And if your cardiff it's pathetic as we gain nothing at all and have everything at risk. We could be hit financially very hard if found guilty...


It wasn't long ago Tan was guilty of offering cash to players at half time FFS!!! He doesn't give a shit


More to do with not knowing the rules your looking at things through tinted glasses and your suggestions are ludicrous in my opinion.


Not knowing the rules could go for anything through couldn't it


It´s all still a bit blur, but something is telling me you´re shooting at the wrong person here..

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:43 pm

Mardon89 wrote:wonder what Parkin is on about?

I wish the article would say Tan submitted dossier not Cardiff!


why?

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:44 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?


if i was a two faced scum bag...yes

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:46 pm

jackmadandbad wrote:
Mardon89 wrote:wonder what Parkin is on about?

I wish the article would say Tan submitted dossier not Cardiff!


why?

Because Tan is clearly the one driving this! Just giving our club an even worse name than it already has!

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:46 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

if he took me for a few million and ripped the club off ....yes

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:50 pm

ninianblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

if he took me for a few million and ripped the club off ....yes


Why isn't the police involved then ?

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:51 pm

More and more evidence stacking against MM....

Court case withdrawn
Public apology to Tan
Jobs not being offered
Moody resigning
Job offered then withdrawn

I was a huge Malky fan, and was gutted when he was sacked. My opinion is quickly changing...

But as Annis would say

"Hmm..."

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:53 pm

JamesC wrote:More and more evidence stacking against MM....

Court case withdrawn
Public apology to Tan
Jobs not being offered
Moody resigning
Job offered then withdrawn

I was a huge Malky fan, and was gutted when he was sacked. My opinion is quickly changing...

But as Annis would say

"Hmm..."


He is waiting for the right job.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:54 pm

Military Junta wrote:
ninianblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

if he took me for a few million and ripped the club off ....yes


Why isn't the police involved then ?


maybe its more to do with premier rules on agents ect ect that have been broken and not criminal acts? but then again they may be involved later who knows? :old:

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:55 pm

Military Junta wrote:I'm wondering if Tan said to Palace:

I'll do a deal with you, I won't take legal action if you don't take Malky on and get rid of Moody


Stop wondering nonsense and look at the hard facts!

Malky f**ked up and possibly f**ked us up too. We just don't know how bad yet, that's all.

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:55 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ninianblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

if he took me for a few million and ripped the club off ....yes


Why isn't the police involved then ?


maybe its more to do with premier rules on agents ect ect that have been broken and not criminal acts? but then again they may be involved later who knows? :old:


But they were involved in the George Graham transfer bungs

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:56 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
JamesC wrote:More and more evidence stacking against MM....

Court case withdrawn
Public apology to Tan
Jobs not being offered
Moody resigning
Job offered then withdrawn

I was a huge Malky fan, and was gutted when he was sacked. My opinion is quickly changing...

But as Annis would say

"Hmm..."


He is waiting for the right job.


:lol:

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:01 pm

Military Junta wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
ninianblue wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems to all point to malky being up to no good when he was at Cardiff. If tan has something on him to that effect then I hope tan scuppers every move malky is lined up for and he never works in football management again.


So would you welcome an old employer of yours putting a stop to every other job you apply for in the future then ?

if he took me for a few million and ripped the club off ....yes


Why isn't the police involved then ?


maybe its more to do with premier rules on agents ect ect that have been broken and not criminal acts? but then again they may be involved later who knows? :old:


But they were involved in the George Graham transfer bungs


yes but we dont know what has gone on with moody malky? fa havnt studied dossier sent to them yet so maybe police will be called in later! :roll:

Re: Tan scuppers Malkys Palace move!

Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:03 pm

No wonder Pulis left...