Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:10 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:21 pm
Barry Chuckle wrote:DrDre wrote:Barry Chuckle wrote:bluebird58 wrote:If he doesn't get the job then we KNOW he did something iffy with us.
We do? How?
We already know by his public apology and abandonment of his compensation claim.
Ah, so we don't KNOW then.
Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:24 pm
brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:45 pm
Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:46 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Blue tinted specs.![]()
Him and Moody were up to no good...once again what proof have you got....you dont have any do you?
Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:50 pm
barry boy wrote:Why are you lot so bitter and twisted ?
Malky was a very good manager for us, got us promoted where many others had failed.
What snide comments would you have made about the real crap managers we have had in the past ?
As someone else said......praise Malky for what he did, not comment on unproven gossip, and move on.
Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:07 pm
barry boy wrote:Why are you lot so bitter and twisted ?
Malky was a very good manager for us, got us promoted where many others had failed.
What snide comments would you have made about the real crap managers we have had in the past ?
As someone else said......praise Malky for what he did, not comment on unproven gossip, and move on.
Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:51 pm
brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Blue tinted specs.![]()
Him and Moody were up to no good...once again what proof have you got....you dont have any do you?
Your that blinded by the hatred for red and VT that you can't even bring yourself to admit there was wrong doing by malky and moody! Most fans can see that they were definitely up to no good whether it was irresponsible with transfer funds or back handers ...... who knows!
I don't think I've ever seen one positive post by yourself regarding ole, the new signings or the stadium!
Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:55 pm
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:02 pm
Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:04 pm
Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:08 pm
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:11 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
what with just one promotion?? how about manager when promoted to div 1 as it was, isnt that the same achievement?? and jimmy scoular, sorry malky was only here 18mnths or so, 1 cup final one promotion is a lot less successfull than some former managers of ours, just because got to premier doesnt mean he is any more successul than all other city managers who got us promotion from various divisions! or cup win
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:15 pm
Otto wrote:It seems many Cardiff fans want to believe that Malky is somehow a crook. The stories of bungs and that started the Malky hatred came from this very board, not from any real investigative journalism. I wouldn't be surprised if these allegations were started by staff of Vincent Tan in a bid to some how swing support to him. Sadly many people draw conclusions based on the first thing they read and indulge the cynical conspiracy view on things.
Malky Mackay left CCFC in a far better state than he found it. Especially financially.
Fist pump.
How people believe such unproven bullshit is beyond me. There's an old phrase that says 'you tell someone bullshit over and over again and sooner or later they will start to believe it' and that's exactly what's been going on
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:19 pm
Military Junta wrote:Otto wrote:It seems many Cardiff fans want to believe that Malky is somehow a crook. The stories of bungs and that started the Malky hatred came from this very board, not from any real investigative journalism. I wouldn't be surprised if these allegations were started by staff of Vincent Tan in a bid to some how swing support to him. Sadly many people draw conclusions based on the first thing they read and indulge the cynical conspiracy view on things.
Malky Mackay left CCFC in a far better state than he found it. Especially financially.
Fist pump.
100000000000000% agreeHow people believe such unproven bullshit is beyond me. There's an old phrase that says 'you tell someone bullshit over and over again and sooner or later they will start to believe it' and that's exactly what's been going on
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:22 pm
Military Junta wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
what with just one promotion?? how about manager when promoted to div 1 as it was, isnt that the same achievement?? and jimmy scoular, sorry malky was only here 18mnths or so, 1 cup final one promotion is a lot less successfull than some former managers of ours, just because got to premier doesnt mean he is any more successul than all other city managers who got us promotion from various divisions! or cup win
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:32 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
what with just one promotion?? how about manager when promoted to div 1 as it was, isnt that the same achievement?? and jimmy scoular, sorry malky was only here 18mnths or so, 1 cup final one promotion is a lot less successfull than some former managers of ours, just because got to premier doesnt mean he is any more successul than all other city managers who got us promotion from various divisions! or cup win
With the greatest of respect to past managers there is a vast difference between winning the Championship than winning lesser league and the same can be said between the Carling Cup and the Welsh Cup[/quot
bollocks success is measured by winning cups leagues ect it doesnt matter what era, and you conveniently forget he had also best budget any city manager had to achieve things, so that didnt make any difference then? and div one was not a lesser league at the time city were promoted there, so winning fa cup is not anything to speak off? i repeat he won 1 promotion thats it!
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:48 pm
Military Junta wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
what with just one promotion?? how about manager when promoted to div 1 as it was, isnt that the same achievement?? and jimmy scoular, sorry malky was only here 18mnths or so, 1 cup final one promotion is a lot less successfull than some former managers of ours, just because got to premier doesnt mean he is any more successul than all other city managers who got us promotion from various divisions! or cup win
With the greatest of respect to past managers there is a vast difference between winning the Championship than winning lesser league and the same can be said between the Carling Cup and the Welsh Cup[/quot
bollocks success is measured by winning cups leagues ect it doesnt matter what era, and you conveniently forget he had also best budget any city manager had to achieve things, so that didnt make any difference then? and div one was not a lesser league at the time city were promoted there, so winning fa cup is not anything to speak off? i repeat he won 1 promotion thats it!
Promotion to the Premier League and runner up in the second biggest cup competition in the UK is much more successful than Division 2/3 titles and a welsh Cup winsRegarding the budget anyone can have a big budget but it's what you do with it that counts.
Fri Aug 15, 2014 11:58 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Military Junta wrote:The history books will show that Malky McKay is the most successful manager the club has ever had
what with just one promotion?? how about manager when promoted to div 1 as it was, isnt that the same achievement?? and jimmy scoular, sorry malky was only here 18mnths or so, 1 cup final one promotion is a lot less successfull than some former managers of ours, just because got to premier doesnt mean he is any more successul than all other city managers who got us promotion from various divisions! or cup win
With the greatest of respect to past managers there is a vast difference between winning the Championship than winning lesser league and the same can be said between the Carling Cup and the Welsh Cup[/quot
bollocks success is measured by winning cups leagues ect it doesnt matter what era, and you conveniently forget he had also best budget any city manager had to achieve things, so that didnt make any difference then? and div one was not a lesser league at the time city were promoted there, so winning fa cup is not anything to speak off? i repeat he won 1 promotion thats it!
Promotion to the Premier League and runner up in the second biggest cup competition in the UK is much more successful than Division 2/3 titles and a welsh Cup winsRegarding the budget anyone can have a big budget but it's what you do with it that counts.
ok by your standards winning one promotion to premier is far more successfull than winning 2or 3 or more titles of another div? just dont get how you say one promotion to premier is better than 2 or more promotions from other div? history wont say malky is most successfull thats for sure.
Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:19 am
Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:21 am
theaxeman wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I don't know about any of these allegations but it seems to me Tan paid him a lot of money to get out the club without kicking up a fuss.
Malky didn't walk away quietly, he was Sacked! Hadn't you heard? He was sacked and was talking about taking Tan to court to claim compensation.
Then a few months later he apologises humbly to Tan and drops his compensation claim.
So if you still think Malky was paid to walk away you're simply deluded.
I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian.
Anyway....footballing wise Palace could do worse. I think they would be a good fit and I could see him doing alright there.
He's an excellent young manager. Speaking of the whole Malky/Moody thing I work and live in London and I have a few Palace supporting mates who credit Moody and their January signings as highly as anything Pulis did there.
Sat Aug 16, 2014 1:47 am
Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:35 am
Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:52 am
Bakedalasker wrote:brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Blue tinted specs.![]()
Him and Moody were up to no good...once again what proof have you got....you dont have any do you?
Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:09 am
cityone wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Blue tinted specs.![]()
Him and Moody were up to no good...once again what proof have you got....you dont have any do you?
No proof is correct, but with malky dropping the legal case, paying his own court expenses and publically apologising to the owner gives even the blindest of people (like yourself) a good indication of who was at fault, you were well and truly seduced by the fist pumps wern't you.
Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:25 am
Bakedalasker wrote:cityone wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Blue tinted specs.![]()
Him and Moody were up to no good...once again what proof have you got....you dont have any do you?
No proof is correct, but with malky dropping the legal case, paying his own court expenses and publically apologising to the owner gives even the blindest of people (like yourself) a good indication of who was at fault, you were well and truly seduced by the fist pumps wern't you.
1. Malky "settled" instead of going into mitigation. Majority of claims happen that way. If Malky was at fault then the likes of Tan would have gone for the jugular and it would have been all over the papers "Malky gets nothing".
2. Malky apologised for if he had offended anyone. Read into the word IF.
Regarding your fist pump comment aimed at me well I shall remind you I got slaughtered on here when I said I feared us falling into a relegation fight in Malkys first season then announcing that I thought he would not be up to it in the premier. So no I was not seduced by the fist pump...show me proof where I was....but I think it is a good idea for a manager to acknowledge the fans don't you?
Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:32 am
cityone wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:cityone wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:brewer918 wrote:Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:theaxeman wrote:I can't remember the ins and outs of the case but wasn't it 'settled'. Nobody knows how much was paid out or what the agreement was or did I miss that? The statement may as well have been read out in Malaysian..
Here it is in plain English then!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/malky-mackay-issues-humble-apology-3520490
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We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.
Take off your blue tinted specs! We all know malky can do know wrong in your eyes but come on clearly him and moody were up to know good! It's bad enough he paid £8 million for an unproven Danish youngster!!
And I fully appreciate what malky did for us by getting us promoted!
Blue tinted specs.![]()
Him and Moody were up to no good...once again what proof have you got....you dont have any do you?
No proof is correct, but with malky dropping the legal case, paying his own court expenses and publically apologising to the owner gives even the blindest of people (like yourself) a good indication of who was at fault, you were well and truly seduced by the fist pumps wern't you.
1. Malky "settled" instead of going into mitigation. Majority of claims happen that way. If Malky was at fault then the likes of Tan would have gone for the jugular and it would have been all over the papers "Malky gets nothing".
2. Malky apologised for if he had offended anyone. Read into the word IF.
Regarding your fist pump comment aimed at me well I shall remind you I got slaughtered on here when I said I feared us falling into a relegation fight in Malkys first season then announcing that I thought he would not be up to it in the premier. So no I was not seduced by the fist pump...show me proof where I was....but I think it is a good idea for a manager to acknowledge the fans don't you?
Have you ever wondered why malky is still out of work??? no chairman will ever let him loose with a cheque book after his reckless spending last summer we spent more than hull and palase combined only to produce mind numbing football, ole looks to have assembled a great squad for less money than malky spent in is promotion season therefor he should be given every opportunity to stamp his mark on this squad and everybody should back him and the team this season, as for acknowledging the fans, ole is the first to do that at the final whistle.
Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:39 am
Sat Aug 16, 2014 9:40 am
Sat Aug 16, 2014 10:12 am
Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:We do know how much was paid out: less than Malky wanted and felt was entitled to.
Most likely was less than what Malky claimed for but so what. A bit like trying to sell your house. You put it on the market at a high price knowing that you will get less but something near what you really thing it is worth. Same applies to court litigation. Those who say Malky got nothing....well I wonder if they would put their mortgage on it?
Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:The agreement was that Malky apologises for any mistakes and gives up on litigation.
No it was not. Malky apologise for offending anyone and that is what he did.
Bakedalasker wrote:DrDre wrote:Now I like Malky and I think he's a decent Championship manager. But to claim there wasn't any wrongdoing from him in the face of this evidence is just being in denial. Just because you don't like Tan, doesn't mean he's always wrong.
And exactly what evidence have you of him doing any wrong? Nothing just like the rest who have a bee in the bonnet about Malky.