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Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:09 pm
AlwaysBBlue wrote:All very well and good saying "he should be able to work now he's served his time". But thats going on the assumption that being a professional footballer is just like any other profession, the club has a duty to ensure that all the peoples on there staff who are in the public eye project a positive image of the club (and de facto, the residents of the city/town it represents)
its the same as say, tv personallities. if a news reader was convicted of rape and served his sentence then obviously he's entitled to go back to work as a news reader, but i highly doubt any news agency would take him as it reflects badly on the news outlet and the profession as a whole...that's where employer responsibility comes in to it.
Sheffield utd may make that exact same decision. I'm not saying he should or shouldnt play, what i'm saying is: he most certainly should be allowed to play (not banned) but the employers (the club) have every right not to employ him for that reason and that reason alone, and i would encourage them the use that right
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CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?
Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:11 pm
kenbarlow wrote:CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?
He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.
Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:
"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?
A. We don’t know"
Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.
He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?
To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame
Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:51 am
jhippno wrote:kenbarlow wrote:CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?
He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.
Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:
"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?
A. We don’t know"
Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.
He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?
To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame
Ken, you say "Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case"? I assume by this you also refer to yourself? Yet you still say "He should never play again". no facts = punish him for life regardless![]()
He is being publicly tried by people without the full facts after he is been tried by the legal system and sentenced
My point of view on this is that the verdict is bizarre given the fact that the victim had no recollection of events, 1 go's down one go's free - very weird and never explained
Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:43 am
Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:45 am
kenbarlow wrote:jhippno wrote:kenbarlow wrote:CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?
He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.
Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:
"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?
A. We don’t know"
Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.
He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?
To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame
Ken, you say "Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case"? I assume by this you also refer to yourself? Yet you still say "He should never play again". no facts = punish him for life regardless![]()
He is being publicly tried by people without the full facts after he is been tried by the legal system and sentenced
My point of view on this is that the verdict is bizarre given the fact that the victim had no recollection of events, 1 go's down one go's free - very weird and never explained
You're correct, I dont know the facts. But I have faith in our justice system which not only found him guilty, but also turned down a few appeals. Judging by how many rape allegations actually turn into convictions, there has to be some pretty strong evidence on this one. And he wasnt tried by the public, he was tried in court.
I'm not saying he should never work again, but as a footballer he's revered by thousands of people, kids look up to him. I think it sets a terrible example if we allow convicted rapists (of which he is one, regardless of peoples belefs on what happened) to play as if nothing has happened once they get out of jail.
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Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:36 pm
PtB wrote:Worth considering that even though a jury found him guilty it still doesn't mean he actually done it. It's a strange case all round.
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Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:51 pm
ReeseBluebird1927 wrote:Let him play