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Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:59 pm

According to Britsh Law, he's "done his time" and (subject to conditions) should be allowed to get on with his life whether it be in football or another area of employment! ;)

I dare say there will be some "not at my club" protests and he already cost them promotion a year or two ago, but the shame is firmly on his shoulders and not Sheffield United's and it's up to them if they can (a) forgive, and (b) think he can still "do a job" for them

Over to your, The Blades of Sheffield United. NOT Cardiff City's issue, I'm pleased to say! :thumbup:

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:09 pm

AlwaysBBlue wrote:All very well and good saying "he should be able to work now he's served his time". But thats going on the assumption that being a professional footballer is just like any other profession, the club has a duty to ensure that all the peoples on there staff who are in the public eye project a positive image of the club (and de facto, the residents of the city/town it represents)

its the same as say, tv personallities. if a news reader was convicted of rape and served his sentence then obviously he's entitled to go back to work as a news reader, but i highly doubt any news agency would take him as it reflects badly on the news outlet and the profession as a whole...that's where employer responsibility comes in to it.

Sheffield utd may make that exact same decision. I'm not saying he should or shouldnt play, what i'm saying is: he most certainly should be allowed to play (not banned) but the employers (the club) have every right not to employ him for that reason and that reason alone, and i would encourage them the use that right


Good post.
Wouldn't want him at my club.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:28 pm

Was it rape tho?

In the eyes of the law maybe he's guilty of the crime, but how come only he got done.

All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:33 pm

Should be able to play, question should be on each club and should they want him on their payroll

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:52 pm

Hard one this. If he had been a plumber then there would be no one asking if he should go back to work. And deny him a chance to work what will happen to him then ? A life on benefits or crime.
But on the other hand him earning silly wages is that morally right ? And his victim seeing him on the TV.
Now I understand he still denies these charges but was found unamously guilty. So what should happen ? Lee Hughes was allowed back to work, and so did that tw*t King. And can see both sides of this but cannot call it.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 7:24 pm

"I can’t see him getting a warm reception if he returns to football. With the opposition (and possibly many of his own team) fans calling him a rapist week in week out, the football pitch might be quite a miserable place for him, and in most people’s eyes it’ll be well deserved. Lewis Bowman"

Agree with this, but would Sheffield United be so keen to take him back if he was just the guy who cleaned the club offices after being found guilty of doing what he did?

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Emotive subject this - I can understand the argument for not allowing him back again, but if the guy has served his time in prison, how much longer should he be punished for? What's the point of prison/rehabilitation if a man isn't going to get a cat in hell's chance afterwards?

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:38 pm

Not Guilty!! Plus even if he was guilty which I believe he isn't, he done his time and should be able to return to normality.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:07 pm

Done his time......

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:21 pm

Luke McCormick did worse by killing most of a family whilst drunk!

He did a couple of years, got released returned to playing for Truro in blue square south, then signed for Oxford then Plymouth , the club he played for when he did the crime.

He is earning £1200 a week now having done that.

Having met him plenty of times I can say he is a nice guy. So if he can play again,so can Evans.

Let's be fair the common denominator here is alcohol.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:47 pm

I believe he didn't do it still. If he done his time, don't see nothing wrong with it.

The situation is she was bragging about the money she was getting and someone else got away it while he didn't, how can you not think that's a tad suspicious?

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:49 am

Well should that scum bag Mike Tyson have ever boxed again? I seem to remember him visiting the valleys a year or two back and people were literaly kissing his arse. Plus he taught Suarez all he knows about biting. It's the same old story if it was Joe Bloggs down the street that was done for rape or biting whilst playing sport he would be run out of town but because the likes of Tyson, Paul Gascoigne (wife beater, drink driver and general piss artist), Marlon King and Evans, to name a few, are sportsmen then alot of people turn a blind eye and make excuses for them. All excellent roll models for kids, I think not!!!

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:52 pm

CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?


He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.

Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:

"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?

A. We don’t know"

Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.

He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?

To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:11 pm

kenbarlow wrote:
CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?


He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.

Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:

"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?

A. We don’t know"

Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.

He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?

To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame


Ken, you say "Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case"? I assume by this you also refer to yourself? Yet you still say "He should never play again". no facts = punish him for life regardless :roll:

He is being publicly tried by people without the full facts after he is been tried by the legal system and sentenced

My point of view on this is that the verdict is bizarre given the fact that the victim had no recollection of events, 1 go's down one go's free - very weird and never explained

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 6:51 am

jhippno wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?


He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.

Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:

"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?

A. We don’t know"

Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.

He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?

To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame


Ken, you say "Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case"? I assume by this you also refer to yourself? Yet you still say "He should never play again". no facts = punish him for life regardless :roll:

He is being publicly tried by people without the full facts after he is been tried by the legal system and sentenced

My point of view on this is that the verdict is bizarre given the fact that the victim had no recollection of events, 1 go's down one go's free - very weird and never explained


You're correct, I dont know the facts. But I have faith in our justice system which not only found him guilty, but also turned down a few appeals. Judging by how many rape allegations actually turn into convictions, there has to be some pretty strong evidence on this one. And he wasnt tried by the public, he was tried in court.

I'm not saying he should never work again, but as a footballer he's revered by thousands of people, kids look up to him. I think it sets a terrible example if we allow convicted rapists (of which he is one, regardless of peoples belefs on what happened) to play as if nothing has happened once they get out of jail.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:43 am

the idea of he has done his time ...maybe relevant if he was say a shoplifter but he has been convicted by a jury of committing a sex crime......so for those that say he has done the time....what if it was paedophilia......is that ok.....sex crimes are a little different fromthe norm....but just my opinion..... :ayatollah:

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 8:45 am

kenbarlow wrote:
jhippno wrote:
kenbarlow wrote:
CayoBluebird wrote:All those of here condemning him, can you all honestly say you have never taken a girl home after a night in town and a few beers?


He didnt take a girl home after a few beers. He turned up in a hotel room uninvited by the girl after his friend had taken a girl home.

Anyone referring to chedevans.com - well you wont find a more one sided source than that website. Can you honestly take a site seriously when it has this on the FAQ:

"Q15. How do the jurors sleep at night?

A. We don’t know"

Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case. However police clearly had enough evidence to bring this case to trial (rare in rape allegations), Ched Evans was found unanimously guilty by a jury, and lost various subsequent appeals. I think that proves more than a website created by his family.

He should never play again. Dont buy the 'he's done his time' argument, fact is that as a footballer he's a role model. What sort of example does that set if a convicted rapist is allowed to play again?

To add, that if Ched plays for Wales then I will find it very difficult to support them, which would be a great shame


Ken, you say "Let's be honest, none of us know the facts on this case"? I assume by this you also refer to yourself? Yet you still say "He should never play again". no facts = punish him for life regardless :roll:

He is being publicly tried by people without the full facts after he is been tried by the legal system and sentenced

My point of view on this is that the verdict is bizarre given the fact that the victim had no recollection of events, 1 go's down one go's free - very weird and never explained


You're correct, I dont know the facts. But I have faith in our justice system which not only found him guilty, but also turned down a few appeals. Judging by how many rape allegations actually turn into convictions, there has to be some pretty strong evidence on this one. And he wasnt tried by the public, he was tried in court.

I'm not saying he should never work again, but as a footballer he's revered by thousands of people, kids look up to him. I think it sets a terrible example if we allow convicted rapists (of which he is one, regardless of peoples belefs on what happened) to play as if nothing has happened once they get out of jail.


Good to see that you have faith in our justice system, I also do on the most part but every now and again something illogical happens - This case appears to have all the hallmarks of an unsafe conviction and i will not be surprised if at some point it gets turned over.

You say he is not being tried by the public? what do you think is now happening with people saying the punishment handed down isn't sufficient and further punishment is required. I think as it stands anyway, very few clubs would actually take him due to the bad press it will cause, this is in a sense further punishment.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 9:27 am

Worth considering that even though a jury found him guilty it still doesn't mean he actually done it. It's a strange case all round.

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:36 pm

PtB wrote:Worth considering that even though a jury found him guilty it still doesn't mean he actually done it. It's a strange case all round.


Bang on

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:43 pm

Let him play

Re: Ched Evans - should he play again ?

Fri Aug 15, 2014 1:51 pm

ReeseBluebird1927 wrote:Let him play


...good point :roll: