Swansea is the best city in the uk?

Cardiff City Council also happens to be a County Council, but the word County isn't required in the title because the boundary is the same as the city, whereas in the case of Swansea, the city and county boundaries are different because one is mainly rural and the other urban. Counties include rural areas, villages, towns and cities. Therefore the County of Swansea includes the City of Swansea, whereas in the case of Cardiff the County only includes the City of Cardiff and no additional large rural area.

I'll agree with all this with the exception one one small thing. You said, and I quote...

the city and county boundaries are different

I disagree.. there is no such thing as the city of Swansea boundary. Swansea starts with the city centre, and as you move out from there you go through the surrounding urban areas (such as Morriston or Fforestfach), on to the suburban areas (such as Gowerton or Dunvant), and then further again onto rural villages (many of which are located on the Gower peninsula such as Rhosilli or Port Eynon), before eventually passing through the City and County of Swansea's border. Again, and I reiterate... The City And County of Swansea's borders are one and the same thing.

So maybe you can see now why it grips my shit when some uneducated Cardiffian proudly announces.. "the Gower is nothing to do with Swansea!"
I suppose it all boils down to the fact that they can't bare the fact that Swansea isn't really a drug infested shit hole, as many would have you believe. Swansea in fact has many affluent areas included within it's boundaries, including the first area in the U.K to be designated an "area of outstanding natural beauty", which incidentally was where I was born and raised, and I've always considered myself a proud jack .

nope i can't see it. if i were in the position and some "uneducated jack" said that a certain part of cardiff wasn't cardiff i...well...i honestly wouldn't give two shits

Cardiff City Council also happens to be a County Council, but the word County isn't required in the title because the boundary is the same as the city, whereas in the case of Swansea, the city and county boundaries are different because one is mainly rural and the other urban. Counties include rural areas, villages, towns and cities. Therefore the County of Swansea includes the City of Swansea, whereas in the case of Cardiff the County only includes the City of Cardiff and no additional large rural area.

I'll agree with all this with the exception one one small thing. You said, and I quote...

the city and county boundaries are different

I disagree.. there is no such thing as the city of Swansea boundary. Swansea starts with the city centre, and as you move out from there you go through the surrounding urban areas (such as Morriston or Fforestfach), on to the suburban areas (such as Gowerton or Dunvant), and then further again onto rural villages (many of which are located on the Gower peninsula such as Rhosilli or Port Eynon), before eventually passing through the City and County of Swansea's border. Again, and I reiterate... The City And County of Swansea's borders are one and the same thing.

So maybe you can see now why it grips my shit when some uneducated Cardiffian proudly announces.. "the Gower is nothing to do with Swansea!"

I suppose it all boils down to the fact that they can't bare the fact that Swansea isn't really a drug infested shit hole, as many would have you believe. Swansea in fact has many affluent areas included within it's boundaries, including the first area in the U.K to be designated an "area of outstanding natural beauty", which incidentally was where I was born and raised, and I've always considered myself a proud jack .

Of course the gower is something to do with Swansea and although the centre of Swansea is a tip ( or was when I last visited) there are nice parts (killay, mumbles etc).

Can you answer this question please daps? Under the old west Glamorgan council was the gower part of the city then or has that changed since Swansea became a unitary authority?

Hope this helps...

Swansea County Borough Council was created in 1889 and the first elections held in November of that year. In 1974, under the Local Government Act 1972, Swansea (which had previously been a county borough) was merged with Gower Rural District, to become a district of West Glamorgan called the District and City of Swansea. West Glamorgan was created on 1 April 1974, by the Local Government Act 1972 from the county borough of Swansea, the municipal boroughs of Neath and Port Talbot, the urban districts of Glyncorrwg and Llwchwr, Gower Rural District, Pontardawe Rural District, and all of Neath Rural District except the parish of Rhigos. From 1982, the main council offices were located in County Hall, Swansea.



So, in answer to your question.. yes, since 1974.

Had to put in my two pennies worth on this subject,as I have worked in Swansea for 12 years and know it well.
I have many great friends down there and a good chunk of the family are from the other side of Swansea in Llanelli and Llandybie.The problem Swansea has is fairly obvious when you work there and analyse it.
INVESTMENT. I'm not just talking about government investment,i'm talking private investment.Cardiff attracts huge investment due to many reasons, government investment, Capital status, foresight of councils years ago, Geography etc etc.
So we have hi tech medical R&d companies, financial companies,Pr, etc etc which all attracts people for work.
The problem for Swansea is that a much larger proportion of the ambitious, hardworking, entrepreneurial people it produces don't stay there because there aren't the prospects and opportunities there for them. So many of them leave. This makes it even more unlikely that companies will invest there. Unfortunately, lazy feckers and chavs don't go anywhere (that goes for here too)so Swansea is left with a working population where nearly half of the working people work in public services (only about 18% in Cardiff)this prevents it moving forward.
Cardiff however benefits from this as, many of the hard working go getters and brains that Swansea produces come here.Of the ones we produce most stay, so each and every year we have an increase in those people, which again sucks in more investment and waters down the scum element. Where as in Swansea it is the opposite.This can be clearly seen by just walking through the city centres of both.
The Gower is a stunning area, and if you want to call it Swansea then thats fine. However most of those people who live there will drive past Swansea and onto to Cardiff to work, shop and socialise, this is also the case for people further west who prefer to drive the extra 45 miles rather than go to Swansea.Sad but true.
The working people of Swansea are good decent and lovely people and no different to our own.
It is unfortunately blighted by a higher proportion (per capita head) of scum.

Cardiff City Council also happens to be a County Council, but the word County isn't required in the title because the boundary is the same as the city, whereas in the case of Swansea, the city and county boundaries are different because one is mainly rural and the other urban. Counties include rural areas, villages, towns and cities. Therefore the County of Swansea includes the City of Swansea, whereas in the case of Cardiff the County only includes the City of Cardiff and no additional large rural area.

I'll agree with all this with the exception one one small thing. You said, and I quote...

the city and county boundaries are different

I disagree.. there is no such thing as the city of Swansea boundary. Swansea starts with the city centre, and as you move out from there you go through the surrounding urban areas (such as Morriston or Fforestfach), on to the suburban areas (such as Gowerton or Dunvant), and then further again onto rural villages (many of which are located on the Gower peninsula such as Rhosilli or Port Eynon), before eventually passing through the City and County of Swansea's border. Again, and I reiterate... The City And County of Swansea's borders are one and the same thing.

So maybe you can see now why it grips my shit when some uneducated Cardiffian proudly announces.. "the Gower is nothing to do with Swansea!"

I suppose it all boils down to the fact that they can't bare the fact that Swansea isn't really a drug infested shit hole, as many would have you believe. Swansea in fact has many affluent areas included within it's boundaries, including the first area in the U.K to be designated an "area of outstanding natural beauty", which incidentally was where I was born and raised, and I've always considered myself a proud jack .

Of course the gower is something to do with Swansea and although the centre of Swansea is a tip ( or was when I last visited) there are nice parts (killay, mumbles etc).

Can you answer this question please daps? Under the old west Glamorgan council was the gower part of the city then or has that changed since Swansea became a unitary authority?

Hope this helps...

Swansea County Borough Council was created in 1889 and the first elections held in November of that year. In 1974, under the Local Government Act 1972, Swansea (which had previously been a county borough) was merged with Gower Rural District, to become a district of West Glamorgan called the District and City of Swansea. West Glamorgan was created on 1 April 1974, by the Local Government Act 1972 from the county borough of Swansea, the municipal boroughs of Neath and Port Talbot, the urban districts of Glyncorrwg and Llwchwr, Gower Rural District, Pontardawe Rural District, and all of Neath Rural District except the parish of Rhigos. From 1982, the main council offices were located in County Hall, Swansea.



So, in answer to your question.. yes, since 1974.

judging by you signiture and these posts im guessing you're an extremely petty little man. It does reek of small town mind set

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/06/9-reasons-swansea-is-the-best-city-in-the-uk-4805482/

This is a joke surely?

Number 1 - a market?

That makes it the best City in the UK?

Carlisle or Derby have more to offer than that glorified beach with a sea front prison.

Had to put in my two pennies worth on this subject,as I have worked in Swansea for 12 years and know it well.
I have many great friends down there and a good chunk of the family are from the other side of Swansea in Llanelli and Llandybie.The problem Swansea has is fairly obvious when you work there and analyse it.
INVESTMENT. I'm not just talking about government investment,i'm talking private investment.Cardiff attracts huge investment due to many reasons, government investment, Capital status, foresight of councils years ago, Geography etc etc.
So we have hi tech medical R&d companies, financial companies,Pr, etc etc which all attracts people for work.
The problem for Swansea is that a much larger proportion of the ambitious, hardworking, entrepreneurial people it produces don't stay there because there aren't the prospects and opportunities there for them. So many of them leave. This makes it even more unlikely that companies will invest there. Unfortunately, lazy feckers and chavs don't go anywhere (that goes for here too)so Swansea is left with a working population where nearly half of the working people work in public services (only about 18% in Cardiff)this prevents it moving forward.
Cardiff however benefits from this as, many of the hard working go getters and brains that Swansea produces come here.Of the ones we produce most stay, so each and every year we have an increase in those people, which again sucks in more investment and waters down the scum element. Where as in Swansea it is the opposite.This can be clearly seen by just walking through the city centres of both.
The Gower is a stunning area, and if you want to call it Swansea then thats fine. However most of those people who live there will drive past Swansea and onto to Cardiff to work, shop and socialise, this is also the case for people further west who prefer to drive the extra 45 miles rather than go to Swansea.Sad but true.
The working people of Swansea are good decent and lovely people and no different to our own.
It is unfortunately blighted by a higher proportion (per capita head) of scum.

An insightful and honest post. I, like you have worked in both cities, and can see the difference in the city centre's. Maybe it's all down to capital status.. who knows? However, outside of the city centre's both cities share a similar story. Both cities are based on an industrial past, and it shows. Both cities have dodgy council estates and more affluent areas. Both cities residents are made up (on the whole) of honest, decent, hard working folk, and both cities unfortunately have it's fair share of wasters. However, what Cardiff will never have (regardless of how much money is invested) is the stunning natural beauty that Swansea has on it's doorstep.

Cardiff has the shops, Swansea has the great outdoors. I know which one I prefer!

To me Swansea is a dump. Not been for about 5 years so it may have changed.

1.The market is no better or worse than Cardiff market.
2. As regards Party time in Wind Street. A load of peed up slappers and roiders. Give me a night in over that.
3. The Gower is lovely but is not in Swansea. (Cue Magic Daps).
4. Dylan Thomas-not my cup of tea. Obviously a literary genius but he spent a hell of a lot of time away from Swansea.
5. The football team is better than ours at the moment. Hasn't got our history or fan base but that can soon change.
6.As regards culture Cardiff has CIA, Millenium Stadium, CCS, St Davids Hall, Clwb Ifor Bach, Sherman Theatre, New Theatre plus numerous other bars and the Castle. Not forgetting museum of Welsh Life or our beautiful civic centre.
7.The Great Outdoors-Castle and surrounding area is as nice as Singleton Park.
8. Food and Drink-Brains SA, some fantastic restaurants etc
9.Cardiff Bay with Pier Head and new development is superior to the SA1 development.

The article fails to mention shopping facilities, hotels, transportation and deprivation. I'm sure there would be people who would argue that Newport could be the best city in uk or for that matter Sunderland, Plymouth or Bristol. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. In my opinion the best cities in UK are Newcastle, Edinburgh and Cardiff. The worst are Bristol, Liverpool and Coventry.

Agree with all your points. Can't deny them Dylan Thomas but then compare that to the amount of artists that have come from Cardiff and the ratio really does say a lot. Wind Street also fails in comparison to Cardiff's wider and more eclectic night time entertainment. Most people choose to avoid Wind Street and St Mary Street.

The Metro really is dishing out some awful articles at the moment.