Vincent Tan must be delighted that the mud has stuck.....

What rubbish.

I will be the first one to admit that the signing of Andreas Cornelius was a shocking decision. But Sir Alex Ferguson bought Bebe. Arsenne Wenger bought Francis Jeffers for £8 million, Jose Mourinhio bought Shaun Wright-Phillips for £21 million. My point is simply this, everybody makes mistakes. Cornelius was actually talked about glowingly by a lot of well respected managers in world football. Hell, even our ‘babyface God’ admitted that he had taken a look at Cornelius.

Yeah but those managers still had a wide range of talent to choose from. We had been lacking a goalscoring striker for two seasons now.


Another thing, what is the point of the whole article? Because Tan sacked Malky and Malky hasn't been able to find another job, it's Tan's fault? Because Tan owns the club and chose to sack a manager who he felt deserved the sacking, it's his fault? He's blaming Tan for a mans inacapability to find another job? Laughable

Stopped reading when it called Dave Jones a joke of a manager. Get a f*cking grip

You would think that

Just like you would think it's a crap one...

Terrible article by a terrible paper. Should be illegal to print this sort of rubbish.

Mud only sticks if there is something to stick to. If there was no substance to Tans argument then it wouldn't have stuck. It'd have fallen apart.

Mud only sticks if there is something to stick to. If there was no substance to Tans argument then it wouldn't have stuck. It'd have fallen apart.

Exactly. How many times has Vincent Tan's name been thrown into the mud? Yet he still stands out on top. Malky could have cashed in on the media attention he had by jumping into another job but he lost that. It's his own fault

No smoke, no fire,,,,hmmm

The footballing fraternity know what went on, the football networking jungle drums are always beating loud & clear.

Malky Mackay was a good manager within his limitations.

Squeaky clean, I'm not so sure on that.

Mud only sticks if there is something to stick to. If there was no substance to Tans argument then it wouldn't have stuck. It'd have fallen apart.

Exactly. How many times has Vincent Tan's name been thrown into the mud? Yet he still stands out on top. Malky could have cashed in on the media attention he had by jumping into another job but he lost that. It's his own fault

This. Malky was in my opinion clamouring for the Everton job trying to tie himself into a long term contract with them. Luckily for them they went with Martinez, a footballing man and proven operator on a tight budget, as opposed to Malkys charismatic charm.

"He would be an assist to any club that was fortunate to have him lead them"

I think the reporter meant asset to any club. Sack the editor if this typo went out!!

"He would be an assist to any club that was fortunate to have him lead them"

I think the reporter meant asset to any club. Sack the editor if this typo went out!!

The guy spelt Wenger's first name wrong so what do you expect?

"He would be an assist to any club that was fortunate to have him lead them"

I think the reporter meant asset to any club. Sack the editor if this typo went out!!

The guy spelt Wenger's first name wrong so what do you expect?

Vincent Tan must be delighted that the mud has stuck to former Cardiff City boss Malky MacKay

In today's Metro.

Vincent Tan must be delighted that the mud has stuck to former Cardiff City boss Malky MacKay
Thursday 7 Aug 2014

Former Cardiff City manager Malky MacKay deserves a top job

I am a huge Malky MacKay fan, I will admit that. As far as I’m concerned, he is the best manager Cardiff City have ever had.

The way that he has been treated by our owner, and it has to be said a lot of the Cardiff fans with short memories, is scandalous.

This is the man that when he joined our club had 12 players. The joke of a previous manager had filled the squad with overpaid, lazy, can’t be bothered loanees who left the club. Yes he had Vincent Tan’s money, but he spent it wisely, and he was the man who sent the players out on that training pitch to learn what he wanted them to learn, he was the man that picked the team, he was the man who got us to the Premier League.

Ladies and gentlemen I am dealing with facts here, not opinions, not propaganda, hard cold facts.

MacKay took us from a team of chokers, to a team of winners.

I will be the first one to admit that the signing of Andreas Cornelius was a shocking decision. But Sir Alex Ferguson bought Bebe. Arsenne Wenger bought Francis Jeffers for £8 million, Jose Mourinhio bought Shaun Wright-Phillips for £21 million. My point is simply this, everybody makes mistakes. Cornelius was actually talked about glowingly by a lot of well respected managers in world football. Hell, even our ‘babyface God’ admitted that he had taken a look at Cornelius.

The rumours, and ‘I heard from a man down the pub’ type stories of the reasons behind this transfer have been nothing short of ridiculous. Every manager makes mistakes, just because a signing didn’t work out doesn’t mean anything underhand was going on.

There has never been any evidence or factual data that can back up the stories that floated around about MacKay. People point to an apparent apology that Malky put out that backs up their own beliefs that there was something going on behind the scenes.

As I said previously the wording of the apology is important. He apologised for any offence caused. Not that he’s sorry for everything he’s done. He’s not sorry for any indiscretions that may or may not have happened. He was apologising for the offence.

Now, if I walked up to you and your other half and said that your partner/wife/husband/whatever was fat, but I turned around and apologised for any offence caused, doesn’t mean what I said wasn’t true. Granted you would smack me in the mouth and I would deserve it, but I wouldn’t be apologising for doing what I did with that wording.

The fact that Malky hasn’t got a job since these rumours started speaks volumes. Mud sticks and it’s unfair to a man who always put Cardiff first. He would be an assist to any club that was fortunate to have him lead them.

Tan must be rubbing his hands together with glee.

Did Malky Mackay deserve to get sacked by Cardiff City?

Excellent article indeed .

This article sums it up in a nutshell for me. Those who continue to slag Malky off with unsubstantiated conjecture are doing so to try to justify why they themselves have disgracefully accepted every bad thing that their beloved Mr Tan has done to our club.

Facts are: Malky turned a threadbare squad into a team of winners.
Malky , despite constant sniping by Tan in the press, had steered us into a course that would have seen us comfortably avoid relegation in the premier.

Every manager buys a dud or two, but the facts remain as above.

On the other hand, what VT has done to the fabric of our clubs identity is a disgrace, but no more of a disgrace than the way some have accepted it and indeed, have tried to justify it by piling the blame onto Malky McKay

spot on

This article sums it up in a nutshell for me. Those who continue to slag Malky off with unsubstantiated conjecture are doing so to try to justify why they themselves have disgracefully accepted every bad thing that their beloved Mr Tan has done to our club.

Facts are: Malky turned a threadbare squad into a team of winners.
Malky , despite constant sniping by Tan in the press, had steered us into a course that would have seen us comfortably avoid relegation in the premier.

Every manager buys a dud or two, but the facts remain as above.

On the other hand, what VT has done to the fabric of our clubs identity is a disgrace, but no more of a disgrace than the way some have accepted it and indeed, have tried to justify it by piling the blame onto Malky McKay

Your having a laugh! how much did he have to turn team into premier class? Winners? Just above relegation zone slowly slipping into it with second worst defence! facts are in public domain about wasting money and buying numurous
players who he never played! Malky brought things on himself end of story!

This article sums it up in a nutshell for me. Those who continue to slag Malky off with unsubstantiated conjecture are doing so to try to justify why they themselves have disgracefully accepted every bad thing that their beloved Mr Tan has done to our club.

Facts are: Malky turned a threadbare squad into a team of winners.
Malky , despite constant sniping by Tan in the press, had steered us into a course that would have seen us comfortably avoid relegation in the premier.

Every manager buys a dud or two, but the facts remain as above.

On the other hand, what VT has done to the fabric of our clubs identity is a disgrace, but no more of a disgrace than the way some have accepted it and indeed, have tried to justify it by piling the blame onto Malky McKay

Your having a laugh! how much did he have to turn team into premier class? Winners? Just above relegation zone slowly slipping into it with second worst defence! facts are in public domain about wasting money and buying numurous
players who he never played! Malky brought things on himself end of story!

People like this are not worth arguing with. They probably still vote Labour through blind hatred of Thatcher because their parents told them she was evil and South Wales should remain a red stronghold. These people refuse to see the truth for what it is and make up their own truths to suit their arguments

This article sums it up in a nutshell for me. Those who continue to slag Malky off with unsubstantiated conjecture are doing so to try to justify why they themselves have disgracefully accepted every bad thing that their beloved Mr Tan has done to our club.

Facts are: Malky turned a threadbare squad into a team of winners.
Malky , despite constant sniping by Tan in the press, had steered us into a course that would have seen us comfortably avoid relegation in the premier.

Every manager buys a dud or two, but the facts remain as above.

On the other hand, what VT has done to the fabric of our clubs identity is a disgrace, but no more of a disgrace than the way some have accepted it and indeed, have tried to justify it by piling the blame onto Malky McKay

Your having a laugh! how much did he have to turn team into premier class? Winners? Just above relegation zone slowly slipping into it with second worst defence! facts are in public domain about wasting money and buying numurous
players who he never played! Malky brought things on himself end of story!

People like this are not worth arguing with. They probably still vote Labour through blind hatred of Thatcher because their parents told them she was evil and South Wales should remain a red stronghold. These people refuse to see the truth for what it is and make up their own truths to suit their arguments

Aye Barnet,and if that don't work just keep re-inventing yourself eh?

Let's move on now and support Ole

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

All water under the bridge and (although some haven't notice to date) the rest of the world, inc. Cardiff City FC, have moved on somewhat!

This article sums it up in a nutshell for me. Those who continue to slag Malky off with unsubstantiated conjecture are doing so to try to justify why they themselves have disgracefully accepted every bad thing that their beloved Mr Tan has done to our club.

Facts are: Malky turned a threadbare squad into a team of winners.
Malky , despite constant sniping by Tan in the press, had steered us into a course that would have seen us comfortably avoid relegation in the premier.

Every manager buys a dud or two, but the facts remain as above.

On the other hand, what VT has done to the fabric of our clubs identity is a disgrace, but no more of a disgrace than the way some have accepted it and indeed, have tried to justify it by piling the blame onto Malky McKay

Your having a laugh! how much did he have to turn team into premier class? Winners? Just above relegation zone slowly slipping into it with second worst defence! facts are in public domain about wasting money and buying numurous
players who he never played! Malky brought things on himself end of story!

People like this are not worth arguing with. They probably still vote Labour through blind hatred of Thatcher because their parents told them she was evil and South Wales should remain a red stronghold. These people refuse to see the truth for what it is and make up their own truths to suit their arguments[/qu


Funny they use facts that cannot be proved but things that are indisputable like cornilious brayford ect ect are dismissed as nothing! Always same arguements but let them live in past! The king is dead thank god!!

Let's move on now and support Ole

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

All water under the bridge and (although some haven't notice to date) the rest of the world, inc. Cardiff City FC, have moved on somewhat!

I agree with your sentiment but this kind of post will always start he nonsense again.Its such a biased piece that it harks back to the days when any old crap written about Tan was adopted as truth and law by this board.

What a bullshit article.

I am not a fan of Vincent Tan. For my sake id dont give a shit if he took his money and left and i appreciate what Malky did in the championship but i mean that he was not delivering in PL. Both performances and transfers was for the most part horrible in the 13/14 season.

Unlike some people on this forum i do however look at things from both sides as you should give credit where it is reasons to do so.

Looking back i never felt that Tan was against Malky until it started showing that Malky had failed big time in the job he was appointed to do.
Tan runs City as a business, he wants a return for the money and most people who run a business would not let the economy part in hands of people they dont trust. Under Malky`s years we spent 48mill and got 1,3mill back.

Tan trusted Malky with 48mill to improve our team and to me that is a huge sign of trust in Malky. Malky got everything he wanted but when it was up to him to give results back he didn`t deliver in the Premier League.
When it came out in the daylight that most of his transfer were overpaid and with clauses that ment almost no chance of profit back the trust he had started to fade away.

Meanwhile we were falling down the table and we saw little signs of improvement. Our signings were not delivering and in the end Malky had to go as he had failed to do the job he WAS APPOINTED to do.

If i run a business and got 1 man who deliver bad results and waste money i wont keep him because he did a good job last year. History is history and Malky did not do his stuff good enough in the new season and the sacking was a good desicion anyone who runs a business would have done.

And when it comes to calling Dave Jones a joke of a manager.

Dave Jones: 310 matches and 1,54 point pr game
Malky: 125 matches and 1,6 point pr game

If we look at the difference in budgets, what the club has and will earn on the signins and what state the club was in at the managers time here i would say that Dave Jones did a hell of a job for our club and he outperformed Malky.

0.06 points difference and Dave was here when the club was on the verge of collapsing. Calling him a joke only shows how little this article is worth to someone who love our club.

so a manager gets sacked........decides to take his employer on for unfair dismissal.. has had the fans singing dont sack mackay for months, and the media and pundits are in unison in saying its a mistake,and malky is a bright young manager......
has there ever been such a strong easy winable case?
i was one hundred per cent certain malky would have a settlement or win in court....

malky drops the case and gives an apology?......who drops a 7 figure law suit and feels a need for any sort of apology...
its obvious to anyone that isnt totally besotted that there was wrong done to our club....
if he was not wrongfully dismissed , stands to reason he was rightfully dismissed.........therefore did wrong and is anti Cardiff

keep up the anti Cardiff shite boys

Excellent article.

filled the club with loans?..what manager would prefer loans over money to buy?..until we had a goalkeeper crisis last 6 or so games the most we fielded was 4.,,,the first manager to take us to wembley in 80 years..and had achieved our 3 highest league finishes since the early 70s is a joke?........bot to mention 12 is inaccurate.........excellent article only goes to show how limited you yourself are

Wez, We all have beliefs and opinions,we disagree,we agree and Malky to me,is in all my years our best ever manager

First two season done a good job on limited budget but fucked up our biggest chance of becoming a top team by trusting his right hand man Moody ,would of loved Dave Jones to have had that type of money or even pulis ,but malky is in the past now got a good feeling about this season

Let's move on now and support Ole

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

All water under the bridge and (although some haven't notice to date) the rest of the world, inc. Cardiff City FC, have moved on somewhat!

I agree with your sentiment but this kind of post will always start he nonsense again.Its such a biased piece that it harks back to the days when any old crap written about Tan was adopted as truth and law by this board.

I think I agree with you IF you mean "this kind of thread" rather than "this kind of post"

Was Malky a good manager for us - Yes

Would he have done anything he did without Vincent Tan's financial backing - lets face it No!

The way I see this if Malky was as angelic as people believe why hasnt he walked into another job.....someting is not right, you cant blame VT for that one - even the most deluded.

Have to say though the article - boring!!! move on. Papers fuked us last year and took some fans on the road with it - we need to stick 2 fingers at the media this year and just focus on the team

Was Malky a good manager for us - Yes

Would he have done anything he did without Vincent Tan's financial backing - lets face it No!

The way I see this if Malky was as angelic as people believe why hasnt he walked into another job.....someting is not right, you cant blame VT for that one - even the most deluded.

Have to say though the article - boring!!! move on. Papers fuked us last year and took some fans on the road with it - we need to stick 2 fingers at the media this year and just focus on the team

certain fans fed the papers crap

Wez, We all have beliefs and opinions,we disagree,we agree and Malky to me,is in all my years our best ever manager

If you are basing this on results even though the methods did not sit well, then surely on the same basis you would class Vincent Tan as our best ever chairman?

Apart from the rebrand tan has done awesome

Well I put up what I heard Malky had been sacked for. Hmmmmm but him not getting a job since has added weight to the fact I was indeed correct. On footballing wise he was top dollar and on his merits would walk into a job surely.

Malky done fantastic for us and will be remembered for that by many city fans, but for f**k sake let's move on and support our current manager

Forget Malky he has shit all to do with us anymore

People on here will never except something is wrong with this and will not have it that malky must have done something wrong

he said sorry to get the Norwich job thats the only reason he would bend the knee to Tan
Nope gave it to Adams a manager with no expericence
must be cos hes nailed on for the WBA job nope gave it to Irvine whos he?
got to be Celtic then nope again

now its the madman Tans fault that the most promising young bristish manager cannot get a job
Christ some people will say believe anything as long as its Tans fault

while i aint no Tan lover here something is wrong and Malky aint blameless we do not what hes done and may never but something smells it aint rocket science

i hope Malky gets a job one day and proves he is a good manager but at the mo it does not look like anyone will touch him
WHY