Brum getting 2.5m out of Mutch

My cousin works at Brum fc

Very nice for him! but what you wrote is not factual in way you wrote it? no spacific amounts just figures used by youself to highlight things.

Ok! It's £1m is that ok for you?

Malky got us to the PL which brought 100 mill in revenue and you want to critisise him for a sell on clause!!! Like another poster has said we got a couple of mill out of the Mccormack deal

Yes true but now we are paying for it? Dont forget 7m loss on ??? name escapes me! plus more from others. Its about stupid contracts agreed by malky in getting players.

So a young and up and coming manager like Malky is not aloud to make mistakes is he? All managers buy crap, Ole has already signed a few players that most likely will never feature for us. Who's to say Malky actually created these release clauses? Do you have any evidence to support that he did?

My judgment on Malky will be purely based on what I do know which is;

He was given money to spend to get us promoted - Which he did
He was given money to keep us in the PL - Up to the point where he was sacked he was on track to keep us in the PL (Admittently Cornleious was a bad buy and we lost a lot of money)

I wont judge him on things I do not have evidence for such as;

He filtered money from transfers - No supporting evidence
He drew up player contracts - No supporting evidence

It's just frustrating when people critisise a manager that achieved so much for us based on rumours

I hope this isn't true, you do have to wonder what moody was being paid for of this is true.

We paid £1m when he was easily worth £3-4m so it was obvious there would be a sell on clause.

malky & moody show.. joke partnership..

and probably why no club has come in for malky..

malky & moody show.. joke partnership..

and probably why no club has come in for malky..

dont sack mackay , malky macky
he,ll build you a team with defensive grit
11 behind the ball, so they cant score a goal
and contracts that arent worth shit

If and I say IF the sell on clause is 50% then it will be 50% over and above what we paid, so if we bought him for £2m then brum would get £2m, but take it from me we have not got a 50% sell on clause, it is nearer 25% which means brum would get £1M

SSSSSHHHHH, people don't want to hear facts

malky & moody show.. joke partnership..

and probably why no club has come in for malky..

dont sack mackay , malky macky
he,ll build you a team with defensive grit
11 behind the ball, so they cant score a goal
and contracts that arent worth shit

One of the best posts I've seen

We paid £1m when he was easily worth £3-4m so it was obvious there would be a sell on clause.

just ignore the mackay haters , they do nothing except talk about the guy 24/7 , just trolls

I hope this isn't true, you do have to wonder what moody was being paid for of this is true.

Tell me Luke where do you think the buck stop when it comes to football contracts?

We paid £1m when he was easily worth £3-4m so it was obvious there would be a sell on clause.

just ignore the mackay haters , they do nothing except talk about the guy 24/7 , just trolls

We paid two million for mutch

We still made a profit on what we paid for him which is a first for a Malky signing.

Birmingham May have insisted on the clause and wouldn't have done business with us otherwise.

I hope this isn't true, you do have to wonder what moody was being paid for of this is true.

Tell me Luke where do you think the buck stop when it comes to football contracts?

It depends on the set up.
If you employee someone like moody then it has to be him otherwise what is his job?

tan and lim we're battered for not having a football person in charge of things like this when DJ was in charge so they trusted Malky to bring someone in and and passed on the responsibility to football people.
I'm sure tan won't make that mistake again.
Disagree?

I hope this isn't true, you do have to wonder what moody was being paid for of this is true.

Tell me Luke where do you think the buck stop when it comes to football contracts?

It depends on the set up.
If you employee someone like moody then it has to be him otherwise what is his job?

tan and lim we're battered for not having a football person in charge of things like this when DJ was in charge so they trusted Malky to bring someone in and and passed on the responsibility to football people.
I'm sure tan won't make that mistake again.
Disagree?

Totally agree with you Moody and malky were fully trusted to deliver on there jobs but messed up I don't think that mistake will be made again for tan to trust him was very naive of a top business man

Am shocked by all those shitty contracts of the past, but I simply can't believe even M&M would put these terms in Mutch's contract.

If true then pathetic business on Malky and Moody's behalf but calling him Milky is a bit of a cheap shot, just incase you didnt ready the OP properly it says 50% sell on clause to Birmingham not 50% sell on clause to Malky Mackay.

One of our top scorers has left for £800k, we had to sell our best CB for £8.5m as if we sold him for any more, we'd have to give money to Spurs, we're selling our most influential player for a fee of £6m due to him being in the last year of his contract and having to give a huge percentage of that to a Championship rival. Whilst we bid for another one of their players. Milky and Moody have put us in a worse position than we were before. At least under DJ we would make profits on players

Where did I say they've put us in a better position you tart. I agree 100% pathetic business but how has Malky made any money off these players leaving the club.

Calling him Milky because he put ridiculous clauses allowing players to leave on the cheap. Top Banana.

One of our top scorers has left for £800k, we had to sell our best CB for £8.5m as if we sold him for any more, we'd have to give money to Spurs, we're selling our most influential player for a fee of £6m due to him being in the last year of his contract and having to give a huge percentage of that to a Championship rival. Whilst we bid for another one of their players. Milky and Moody have put us in a worse position than we were before. At least under DJ we would make profits on players

Without those release clauses, the players may well not have signed at all.

Spurs probably wouldn't have allowed a transfer without those clauses either. Caulker signing was a coup at the time & probably wouldn't have happened without clauses in favour of both Caulker & Spurs.

Regarding Mutch, the same could be said. We had him cheap & the club have insisted a sell on clause (just like many fans are suggesting with Mason!) we've also recently benefitted from such a deal with McCormack. As for him being in the last year of his deal? Well that's hardly the club's fault and certainly not Mackay's fault!

Mackay and Moody have put us in a worse position than when they arrived? What a load of rubbish. If you remember the season before Mackay, we had a squad so full of loan players, we were never able to field the strongest XI possible.

We made profits on players under DJ because all the players were cheap & gambles. We signed a HELL of a lot of guff under DJ too. We also were forced to sell any player of value, whereas now, we are able to hold on to the majority of players that we want to keep and have that sort of value.

The latter is due to Mr Tan.


Agree about selling club putting restrictions when buying players. We might well have a sell on clause for Mutch in case he becomes the spine of the England team as predicted.


I'm not Malky's biggest fan at all but people are very quick to have a pop. He should be credited in this instance due buying a player for 2 million that turned into a 6 million pound player. We still made a profit even with a sell on clause.


I'll disagree about DJ though. When he paid cash for a player (very rarely got money) he often made a large profit or got excellent service out of them.

Marshall, Hudson, Chopra, Bothroyd, Johnson, Loovens, McCormack, scimeca, Whittingham to name a few.

Byrne is one of the only players we paid for who flopped. Some of his free transfers were a bit dodgy but he had little to play with in way of wages etc.

Weren't Birmingham in a cash crisis when we signed mutch?

Either way it's one of MM better signings. That says a lot.

Weren't Birmingham in a cash crisis when we signed mutch?

Either way it's one of MM better signings. That says a lot.

His only good cash signing perhaps?

I count caulker as average.

His only good cash signing perhaps?

I count caulker as average.

Campbell for 600k.

Noone for 1m.

Maynard may well prove his worth & was extremely unlucky with injuries too.

Brayford could well prove a bargain too.

I rate Caulker as a good signing too.

Mason and Turner were nominal fees too? Not sure.

To say it was his ONLY good cash buy, is unfair.

His only good cash signing perhaps?

I count caulker as average.

Campbell for 600k.

Noone for 1m.

Maynard may well prove his worth & was extremely unlucky with injuries too.

Brayford could well prove a bargain too.

I rate Caulker as a good signing too.

Mason and Turner were nominal fees too? Not sure.

To say it was his ONLY good cash buy, is unfair.

Turner was 750k and Mason 250k.

His only good cash signing perhaps?

I count caulker as average.

Campbell for 600k.

Noone for 1m.

Maynard may well prove his worth & was extremely unlucky with injuries too.

Brayford could well prove a bargain too.

I rate Caulker as a good signing too.

Mason and Turner were nominal fees too? Not sure.

To say it was his ONLY good cash buy, is unfair.

Turner I'll take back as has been an effective player for us especially in title winning side. Could have profited in him on more than one occasion. Brayford the Malky signing he didn't play.

Maynard hopefully will prove to be a class player once injury free.

Noone not a good signing yet. Has all the potential but can't string it together for long without injury and Malky barely played him. Mason tbd. Campbell helped to get us over the line championship winning year but was distinctly average in the Prem. Our DJ signings were more influential than our Malky signings in my opinion.

Turner was 750k and Mason 250k.

I didn't think they were free. Two more excellent cash transfers then. I understand that some didn't enjoy Mackay's style of football, but I think some of the stick and criticism he gets, is incredible.

Certainly my favourite Cardiff manager for many years.

Turner was 750k and Mason 250k.

I didn't think they were free. Two more excellent cash transfers then. I understand that some didn't enjoy Mackay's style of football, but I think some of the stick and criticism he gets, is incredible.

Certainly my favourite Cardiff manager for many years.

Agreed he gets a lot of unnecessary stick. We have enough to beat him with without creating shit.

Mason has a lot of potential but is unfulfilled at the moment even for 250k. McCormack cost 250k too.

Agreed he gets a lot of unnecessary stick. We have enough to beat him with without creating shit.

Mason has a lot of potential but is unfulfilled at the moment even for 250k. McCormack cost 250k too.

Are you really suggesting that signing Mason for 250k, who scored 8 in 16 games for Bolton last year, isn't good value for money? Or a good "cash transfer"?

The sad thing is the money we brought in getting to the Prem, television money etc and parachute payments would have been big but considering Malky milked us dry of 50 million and so on it doesn't look that good.

Agreed he gets a lot of unnecessary stick. We have enough to beat him with without creating shit.

Mason has a lot of potential but is unfulfilled at the moment even for 250k. McCormack cost 250k too.

Are you really suggesting that signing Mason for 250k, who scored 8 in 16 games for Bolton last year, isn't good value for money? Or a good "cash transfer"?

Cracking loan signing for Bolton. Hasn't done much for us yet as hasn't been given a chance so until he does he will be in the tbd category.

I do think and hope he will be amazing however.

2.5 mill my arse
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