THAT ISRAELI FLAG [part 2]

TB is drinking some good stuff....... I have read some drivel in my time but this ......well carry on taking the pills


"just because I am not paranoid does not mean they are all out to get me"

Israel is evil, Israel controls America, Israel controls the world and Israel are responsible for pretty much every act of terrorism, including everything that's going on now. Do a simple Google search of "Zionist controlled media" and you'll see 96% of the world media is controlled by the Jews.

Even Israel's flag reveals their evilness. The star of David on the flag is a satanic 6 sided hexagon surrounded by 6 triangles with 6 points = 666.

MH17 was shot down at 2.15pm deflecting the attention away from IDF's ground invasion on Gaza at 2pm. Coincidence? I think not!

The Ukrainian's are also Zionist controlled so it's no surprise the finger is being pointed at Putin regarding the MH17 shoot down. Putin is the only man who has stood up to the evil, mass-murdering, Zionist scum and now he's being demonised! Why can no analysis of the MH17 crash be done? Because MH17 is really MH370 and they don't want any answers getting out!

Why do I think this? Every plane has parts with serial numbers which get tracked. Flightradar24 initially stated MH17 was cancelled and never took off. Perfect cover for flight 370 to step in to be disposed of and where's the best place to dispose it? In a Zionist controlled warzone where "circumstances" can get in the way of conducting a proper investigation!

It's obvious the plane wasn't really MH17 because when MH370 "crashed", the flight was stopped for weeks. With MH17 however, the flight schedule is CONTINUING AS NORMAL! http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh17#3d3d13f

Russia are getting set up, but unfortunately, the majority of people are lazy, gullible morons being manipulated by the Zionist controlled garbage on their TV screens!

And we're the gullible ones are we... f*cking hell read what you've written mate. Your brain's getting cooked in this weather with your tinfoil hat

Believe it or not, I have posted links to back up my opinions. What do you have to counter argue against them? Nothing! You rubbish my posts, yet all you manipulated, Zionist, mainstream media believers have to go with at the moment is your "it is ALLEGED a Buk missile shot it down, so it is THOUGHT Russia are responsible".

All the current facts at the moment are:

Wikipedia states MH17 took off at 10.14 (under "Crash")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_A ... _Flight_17

Contact was instantly lost at 10.15.
http://www.nst.com.my/node/14258

MH17 was escorted by 2 Ukrainian fighter jets.
http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/ ... 38330.html

MH17 was shot down 200km north of its published route, proving it deviated off course. MH17 never flies over Eastern Ukraine. It then disappeared off radar 3 minutes before the shoot down. Air traffic controllers were temporarily taken off duty and replaced, with radar records being immediately confiscated.
http://www.eturbonews.com/48079/ukraine ... shot-down-

Despite this, the MH17 flight schedule has suspiciously continued as normal...and look what time it says it took off, 10.31! Why is flightradar24 stating the plane didn't take off until 10.31 when Wikipedia states it took off at 10.14? They can't even get the take off times accurate and this is why I believe a different plane was used, although that's just my opinion.
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh17/

The number of doctors on the plane has now suddenly been reduced to just 6 doctors. http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/s ... eagues-pla

They initially said the plane contained 108 doctors.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/559651/2 ... ds-hiv.htm

Most importantly, the timing of the shooting coincides with the IDF's ground invasion on Gaza.

These are all facts which are being hidden as best as possible by the Zionist controlled media!

I was the one responsible for hanging the Israeli flag at City home games because Dekel Keinen, an Israeli international, was playing for City. I also put flags up of other nations for foreigners who were playing for City at that time.

On the question of whether I would show my support of Israel today is another issue and unrelated to the above. If you are asking me whether I support a democratically elected government who are seeking to protect its citizens or a band of terrorists who are protecting themselves with women and children that's a daft question to ask, sir.

StT.

Believe it or not, I have posted links to back up my opinions. What do you have to counter argue against them? Nothing! You rubbish my posts, yet all you manipulated, Zionist, mainstream media believers have to go with at the moment is your "it is ALLEGED a Buk missile shot it down, so it is THOUGHT Russia are responsible".

All the current facts at the moment are:

Wikipedia states MH17 took off at 10.14 (under "Crash")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_A ... _Flight_17

Contact was instantly lost at 10.15.
http://www.nst.com.my/node/14258

MH17 was escorted by 2 Ukrainian fighter jets.
http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/ ... 38330.html

MH17 was shot down 200km north of its published route, proving it deviated off course. MH17 never flies over Eastern Ukraine. It then disappeared off radar 3 minutes before the shoot down. Air traffic controllers were temporarily taken off duty and replaced, with radar records being immediately confiscated.
http://www.eturbonews.com/48079/ukraine ... shot-down-

Despite this, the MH17 flight schedule has suspiciously continued as normal...and look what time it says it took off, 10.31! Why is flightradar24 stating the plane didn't take off until 10.31 when Wikipedia states it took off at 10.14? They can't even get the take off times accurate and this is why I believe a different plane was used, although that's just my opinion.
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/mh17/

The number of doctors on the plane has now suddenly been reduced to just 6 doctors. http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/s ... eagues-pla

They initially said the plane contained 108 doctors.
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/559651/2 ... ds-hiv.htm

Most importantly, the timing of the shooting coincides with the IDF's ground invasion on Gaza.

These are all facts which are being hidden as best as possible by the Zionist controlled media!

Obviously not hidden very well if any crazy idiot can find links on google. You would also think a world controlling power would be able to remove or change any obvious mistakes such as the time the plane took off or numbers of doctors on board

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

He is claiming that mh17 is actually mh370 and that the dead bodies on flight mh17 are those of the passengers from flight mh370. He hasn't explained where the bodies of the passengers of flight mh17 have gone nor where the plain has gone though...

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

What our country does keeps you safe in your bed though you hardly deserve it.They'd be bombing f**k out of us if we wern't one step ahead.Anyway I blame King Richard-I knew all those crusades would bite us in the arse one day.So there you are its all the fault of the english.

I've finally found someone who's more mental thane on here !!!

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

What our country does keeps you safe in your bed though you hardly deserve it.They'd be bombing f**k out of us if we wern't one step ahead.Anyway I blame King Richard-I knew all those crusades would bite us in the arse one day.So there you are its all the fault of the english.

They are basing their story on tweets regarding the Spanish air traffic controller who was actually in the Ukraine working

I've finally found someone who's more mental thane on here !!!

easy sunshine...its still a close race

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

I'm not agreeing with everything he said. I am disagreeing with the calling him a loon because his opinions go against the grain. Some of what he has said is true and proven like media and financial dominance not that it really matters to me - I'm just a welsh bloke and these are things way bigger than any of us - nothing to build up hate about.

His comments on the plane and so on I don't agree with but I won't call him a loon for thinking that. Each to their own to be honest. He has as much right to believe that as I have to believe what I do. I think it is far too early to tell what has happened here and any talk on that is purely speculation.

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

He is claiming that mh17 is actually mh370 and that the dead bodies on flight mh17 are those of the passengers from flight mh370. He hasn't explained where the bodies of the passengers of flight mh17 have gone nor where the plain has gone though...

Green Arrow, thanks for your support. I 100% agree with you.

A block, I have stated factual evidence about the timing of the shoot down coinciding with the ground invasion on Gaza, the number of doctors initially stated on the plane proving to be complete fabrication, the plane being diverted by 2 fighter jets 200km north of its normal route to get shot down, the loss of communication with the plane at 10.15, the different take off times listed and I've just come across another video exposing the fresh passports pulled from the wreckage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjmcEE ... e=youtu.be

The footage increases my belief that these fresh passports were planted at the wreckage by a psy op team falsifying who was on the plane. I don't know what's happened to the MH17 passengers, but there's been quite a few lucky escapes from people who were supposed to be on the flight:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/overbooked ... rom-death/
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/austr ... zuc6g.html
http://www.thehits.co.nz/polly-grant/in ... 17-flight/

Apart from a Dutch cyclist, I can't find any stories about passengers having a lucky escape from MH370 in comparison.

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

He is claiming that mh17 is actually mh370 and that the dead bodies on flight mh17 are those of the passengers from flight mh370. He hasn't explained where the bodies of the passengers of flight mh17 have gone nor where the plain has gone though...

Green Arrow, thanks for your support. I 100% agree with you.

A block, I have stated factual evidence about the timing of the shoot down coinciding with the ground invasion on Gaza, the number of doctors initially stated on the plane proving to be complete fabrication, the plane being diverted by 2 fighter jets 200km north of its normal route to get shot down, the loss of communication with the plane at 10.15, the different take off times listed and I've just come across another video exposing the fresh passports pulled from the wreckage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjmcEE ... e=youtu.be

The footage increases my belief that these fresh passports were planted at the wreckage by a psy op team falsifying who was on the plane. I don't know what's happened to the MH17 passengers, but there's been quite a few lucky escapes from people who were supposed to be on the flight:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/overbooked ... rom-death/
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/austr ... zuc6g.html
http://www.thehits.co.nz/polly-grant/in ... 17-flight/

Apart from a Dutch cyclist, I can't find any stories about passengers having a lucky escape from MH370 in comparison.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/ ... 38330.html

Was one of the sites you linked to. Also has a story about Obama in gay sex act, female witness murdered. Also Pope Francis found guilty of child trafficking and other such stories.

Clown website for the king of the clowns.

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

He is claiming that mh17 is actually mh370 and that the dead bodies on flight mh17 are those of the passengers from flight mh370. He hasn't explained where the bodies of the passengers of flight mh17 have gone nor where the plain has gone though...

Green Arrow, thanks for your support. I 100% agree with you.

A block, I have stated factual evidence about the timing of the shoot down coinciding with the ground invasion on Gaza, the number of doctors initially stated on the plane proving to be complete fabrication, the plane being diverted by 2 fighter jets 200km north of its normal route to get shot down, the loss of communication with the plane at 10.15, the different take off times listed and I've just come across another video exposing the fresh passports pulled from the wreckage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjmcEE ... e=youtu.be

The footage increases my belief that these fresh passports were planted at the wreckage by a psy op team falsifying who was on the plane. I don't know what's happened to the MH17 passengers, but there's been quite a few lucky escapes from people who were supposed to be on the flight:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/overbooked ... rom-death/
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/austr ... zuc6g.html
http://www.thehits.co.nz/polly-grant/in ... 17-flight/

Apart from a Dutch cyclist, I can't find any stories about passengers having a lucky escape from MH370 in comparison.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/ ... 38330.html

Was one of the sites you linked to. Also has a story about Obama in gay sex act, female witness murdered. Also Pope Francis found guilty of child trafficking and other such stories.

Clown website for the king of the clowns.

Don't worry, it's not the only site stating this fact.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/ukr ... 49103.html

One of the web sites mentioned is also warning that WW3 is imminent as America is about to launch an attack on Russia. Guess I had better celebrate xmas next week then, looks like it may be my last one.

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

He is claiming that mh17 is actually mh370 and that the dead bodies on flight mh17 are those of the passengers from flight mh370. He hasn't explained where the bodies of the passengers of flight mh17 have gone nor where the plain has gone though...

Green Arrow, thanks for your support. I 100% agree with you.

A block, I have stated factual evidence about the timing of the shoot down coinciding with the ground invasion on Gaza, the number of doctors initially stated on the plane proving to be complete fabrication, the plane being diverted by 2 fighter jets 200km north of its normal route to get shot down, the loss of communication with the plane at 10.15, the different take off times listed and I've just come across another video exposing the fresh passports pulled from the wreckage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjmcEE ... e=youtu.be

The footage increases my belief that these fresh passports were planted at the wreckage by a psy op team falsifying who was on the plane. I don't know what's happened to the MH17 passengers, but there's been quite a few lucky escapes from people who were supposed to be on the flight:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/overbooked ... rom-death/
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/austr ... zuc6g.html
http://www.thehits.co.nz/polly-grant/in ... 17-flight/

Apart from a Dutch cyclist, I can't find any stories about passengers having a lucky escape from MH370 in comparison.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/ ... 38330.html

Was one of the sites you linked to. Also has a story about Obama in gay sex act, female witness murdered. Also Pope Francis found guilty of child trafficking and other such stories.

Clown website for the king of the clowns.

Don't worry, it's not the only site stating this fact.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/ukr ... 49103.html

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su25/

Service ceiling is 7000 metres. Well below the height of the 777.

Saw a web site once where some conspiracy theorist was adamant that Elvis Presley was working at Spud-U-Like in Milton Keynes because he wanted to be out of the public eye.

I like how you're all calling him a loon and a conspiracy theorist. It wasn't long ago people said the same about those going on about the NSA spying on people yet when Snowden and others came out and proved it to be the case all these idiots then claimed 'oh yeah it is true'. The so called loons and theorists had been banging the same drum for years yet people dismissed them then looked like complete idiots when Snowden came out.

Nobody has provided any solid evidence to counter his claims either. Why? If its all the bullshit you claim it is then surely it should be rather easy to dismiss and destroy every claim he has made.

Who makes up most of the media?
Who makes up most of Wall Street?

You can't answer can you or more the fact you want to do so but because you've been stifled by generations of growing political correctness you won't and would rather condemn those that don't take the easy and sheepish option like yourselves.

I watched for years on Reddit people like Tonteg get abused and called crazy yet Snowden comes out and proves them right. Then again, I suppose the NSA and GCHQ aren't doing it are they? Snowden is wrong. I suppose all the stuff leaked by WikiLeaks is wrong as well....

Hilarious that when Arab countries do it it is the end of the world and wrong yet when the West does anything its fighting for freedoms or swept under the rug and people are made to look like loons or crazy. Disgusting.

Wiki leaks and snowden provide official information to back up their claims. Tonteg is using conspiracy theories online, also without any factual evidence, as his evidence. So completely different scenarios really.

He is claiming that mh17 is actually mh370 and that the dead bodies on flight mh17 are those of the passengers from flight mh370. He hasn't explained where the bodies of the passengers of flight mh17 have gone nor where the plain has gone though...

Green Arrow, thanks for your support. I 100% agree with you.

A block, I have stated factual evidence about the timing of the shoot down coinciding with the ground invasion on Gaza, the number of doctors initially stated on the plane proving to be complete fabrication, the plane being diverted by 2 fighter jets 200km north of its normal route to get shot down, the loss of communication with the plane at 10.15, the different take off times listed and I've just come across another video exposing the fresh passports pulled from the wreckage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USjmcEE ... e=youtu.be

The footage increases my belief that these fresh passports were planted at the wreckage by a psy op team falsifying who was on the plane. I don't know what's happened to the MH17 passengers, but there's been quite a few lucky escapes from people who were supposed to be on the flight:
http://nypost.com/2014/07/19/overbooked ... rom-death/
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/austr ... zuc6g.html
http://www.thehits.co.nz/polly-grant/in ... 17-flight/

Apart from a Dutch cyclist, I can't find any stories about passengers having a lucky escape from MH370 in comparison.

http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/2014/ ... 38330.html

Was one of the sites you linked to. Also has a story about Obama in gay sex act, female witness murdered. Also Pope Francis found guilty of child trafficking and other such stories.

Clown website for the king of the clowns.

Don't worry, it's not the only site stating this fact.
http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/ukr ... 49103.html

http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/su25/

Service ceiling is 7000 metres. Well below the height of the 777.

Interesting, the Russian's are saying it can rise to 10,000 metres for a brief time which would take it to just under 33,000 feet. Not sure if that's true though. I see there's different types of Ukrainian SU-25's but like you say, their service ceilings are all listed at 7,000 metres. Here's an update from 2 hours ago: http://en.itar-tass.com/world/741687

There's been genocide before where we haven't stepped in, it's for personal gain rather than moral justice any decisions our government make.

T.B are you a holocaust denier ?

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

I've finally found someone who's more mental thane on here !!!

in all fairness Adam.........your not even close here, that arrow fella is way ahead of you too.........

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

these threads are not a true reflection..........in fact they are being ridiculed quite a lot tbh...

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

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To BluebirdJosh:

I simply wish to say, 'thank you,' for your heartfelt post.

One of the saddest things in life is to see those with the means, virtually all have these days with smartphones and pcs, show their lack of knowledge on serious matters facing us. Just because a person has a pc doesn't make him intelligent. The lack of historical knowledge, let alone biblical knowledge, about this question is frightening. Many would be better advised, rather than show their ignorance, to remain silent. Truth is alwayseven if some shout louder.

Well done bro.

StT.

To BluebirdJosh:

I simply wish to say, 'thank you,' for your heartfelt post.

One of the saddest things in life is to see those with the means, virtually all have these days with smartphones and pcs, show their lack of knowledge on serious matters facing us. Just because a person has a pc doesn't make him intelligent. The lack of historical knowledge, let alone biblical knowledge, about this question is frightening. Many would be better advised, rather than show their ignorance, to remain silent. Truth is alwayseven if some shout louder.

Well done bro.

StT.

Completely agree with you there and appreciate that mate

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

I feel like I need to post on this thread although I don't think many will like what I have to say. I'm a massive Cardiff fan and I'm also Jewish and a Zionist. There is a HUGE Jewish fan base supporting Cardiff and I think to hear what some of our fans are saying about Israel is disgusting.

Jews do not control the media, in fact the media, especially the BBC are completely bias against Israel. All that Israel do is protect their civilians whilst Hamas constantly fire rocket after rocket, even when Israel agree to a temporary ceasefire. Israel aims to destroy Hamas rocket supplies and Hamas HQs but these are placed within homes, schools and hospitals. Hamas order their civilians to ignore evacuation calls from Israel and send their civilians onto the roofs of buildings being targeted by Israel. If rockets were constantly being fired, 100s every day at Wales, you wouldn't just sit back and take it. Israel never fires without warning, something which can never be said about Hamas. Hamas are simply evil people who don't care about their own civilians at all.

To hear these views from fans who probably sit within feet of myself and other Jews at home games is disgusting. I understand that everyone is entitled to their opinion but I can't understand how anyone could think that Israel are the inhumane party over here.

And to suggest that Israel shot down the Malaysian Airline... Never heard such rubbish in my life

If you want to see something really disgusting type in "Palestine graphic" or "Palestine children" in a Twitter search and see the results of the past few days.

Even the BBC have proved that the first pic isn't from the current conflict. They take pictures from other countries such as Syria from previous years to try and lie to the world. Again, evil.

And the murder of the Palestinian boy - that was a disgusting act, one that no one in the Jewish or Israeli world is proud of. But whilst Israel condemned that act and sought to find the killers, the Palestinians were dancing and celebrating at the murder of three young Jewish boys.

Israel are not the evil ones so good luck trying to disprove that.

What about the murder of 4 children on the beach? http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/j ... nd-account

Let Hamas stand trial for war crimes. just let Israel's government stand trial with them.