Rebrand Poll - Avoid thread if you dont want to discuss it

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

Blue is never coming back under Tan so those that say they want to negotiate with Tan will be waiting a long time.

Cant see the negotiate option chief. Compromise with colour yeah

How has that gone for you the past two years?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

If we had BLUE back, of course we would be better off, including financially. Tan wants the same as most fans - to be PL again, but imagine having that in traditional colours, the fans and owner moving to a common goal.

If Cardiff became an established PL side, he would stand to make a lot of money, but so would the club.

Many clubs have owners and function perfectly well with the debt. The rebrand is the only real sticking point.

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100 million investment which secured the future of our club. On that Tan hasn't lied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

WOW,do you really mean that last bit?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

really???????????.............finding it hard to know are we better off finacially with or without him explains lots.........

I voted tan out.... Anyone who thinks tan will turn us back blue and the badge back and tan will stay are thick as pig shit as it was him who changed it to start with why would he even consider changing it over two years on to please us fans. It will never happen nore will any supposed compromise happen either so let's be honest here

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100m loan which secured the future of our club. On that Tan haslied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

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What I have trouble understanding is the statements that quite a few have said on this Forum.
"No one wants the red" Now look at the poll and say that is not exactly true.

here you go again..i dont see a want red option..but you see reds everywhere,your like edgar f*cking hoover...

Number 5 is basically I want love the red. So suck that up Dyson face

no it doesnt say that.. Mr theres a red under my bed..but like i said your paranoid

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i think the irony of you posting this may have been lost on you

The bottom 4 options of this poll should have just been put into 1 option to be honest, your either ok with it or you're not. It's irrelavant anyway as its happening regardless.

So basically currently 38% support the rebrand and 62% oppose it, it's not the 90% support it then that Tan quoted!

Option 2 is never going to happen so everyone wanting our identity back has to vote for option 1 surely? Very alarming that option 1 has so little votes but I suppose that's what our club has turned into with the number of plastics now supporting us.

Option 2 is never going to happen so everyone wanting our identity back has to vote for option 1 surely? Very alarming that option 1 has so little votes but I suppose that's what our club has turned into with the number of plastics now supporting us.

but the question is what would you want to happen...not whats the most likley. IF tan turned us to blue would you want him at the club (thats IF...not WILL)

Option 2 is never going to happen so everyone wanting our identity back has to vote for option 1 surely? Very alarming that option 1 has so little votes but I suppose that's what our club has turned into with the number of plastics now supporting us.

but the question is what would you want to happen...not whats the most likley. IF tan turned us to blue would you want him at the club (thats IF...not WILL)

If Tan turned us blue I would still want him gone. I will forever hate Tan for what he's turned our club into and I will never forgive him. Unfortunately, the majority of our fans have been "bought" by Tan funding new players, facilities, red stands etc, despite him continually lying to us and breaking promises. What "good" Tan does for our club is pointless when the identity of our club has been extinguished. Tan has got me seriously considering whether to go to home games anymore. Scarfgate gave me a feeling a million times lower than any humiliating defeat to Maidstone, Cambridge etc. Tan has put me through this and done this to me and I will forever despise him for it. I just want my club back and to be able to feel part of my club again, whatever the level.

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

WOW,do you really mean that last bit?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

really???????????.............finding it hard to know are we better off finacially with or without him explains lots.........

Yep. You do realise his "investments" are loans right? Tan wants his money back and the club owe him millions, like he's already said in one of his last interviews. You should know this.

Option 2 is never going to happen so everyone wanting our identity back has to vote for option 1 surely? Very alarming that option 1 has so little votes but I suppose that's what our club has turned into with the number of plastics now supporting us.

but the question is what would you want to happen...not whats the most likley. IF tan turned us to blue would you want him at the club (thats IF...not WILL)

If Tan turned us blue I would still want him gone. I will forever hate Tan for what he's turned our club into and I will never forgive him. Unfortunately, the majority of our fans have been "bought" by Tan funding new players, facilities, red stands etc, despite him continually lying to us and breaking promises. What "good" Tan does for our club is pointless when the identity of our club has been extinguished. Tan has got me seriously considering whether to go to home games anymore. Scarfgate gave me a feeling a million times lower than any humiliating defeat to Maidstone, Cambridge etc. Tan has put me through this and done this to me and I will forever despise him for it. I just want my club back and to be able to feel part of my club again, whatever the level.

and him putting us back in blue wouldnt do that?

i would support city at any level, but i think some people actively want us to drop down the leagues

What I have trouble understanding is the statements that quite a few have said on this Forum.
"No one wants the red" Now look at the poll and say that is not exactly true.

here you go again..i dont see a want red option..but you see reds everywhere,your like edgar f*cking hoover...

Number 5 is basically I want love the red. So suck that up Dyson face

no it doesnt say that.. Mr theres a red under my bed..but like i said your paranoid

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i think the irony of you posting this may have been lost on you

those were my thoughts when i seen it

Yep. You do realise his "investments" are loans right?

No shit! I thought he did what all the other football owners did and gave his money away for free. I am truly shocked!

Tell me, what interest is he charging us?

Tan wants his money back...

Really? When did he say that? Please post the quote here. Thanks.

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

WOW,do you really mean that last bit?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

really???????????.............finding it hard to know are we better off finacially with or without him explains lots.........

Yep. You do realise his "investments" are loans right? Tan wants his money back and the club owe him millions, like he's already said in one of his last interviews. You should know this.

yes Jon i realise it gets said here a hundred times a day by people like yourself that dont seem to grasp that they are not 3rd party debts......Dalman quoted Carl a figure to buy the club..........the figure happened to be Tans total investment...the figure would have been an identical amount if debt had been converted..........its ALLhis money.........im sure you understand but like many its easier to pretend you dont so you can beat him with the stick........

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100m loan which secured the future of our club. On that Tan haslied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

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pathetic............what exactly is the point in changing his post....dont have an answer?..hate the truth?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

WOW,do you really mean that last bit?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

really???????????.............finding it hard to know are we better off finacially with or without him explains lots.........

Yep. You do realise his "investments" are loans right? Tan wants his money back and the club owe him millions, like he's already said in one of his last interviews. You should know this.

yes Jon i realise it gets said here a hundred times a day by people like yourself that dont seem to grasp that they are not 3rd party debts......Dalman quoted Carl a figure to buy the club..........the figure happened to be Tans total investment...the figure would have been an identical amount if debt had been converted..........its ALLhis money.........im sure you understand but like many its easier to pretend you dont so you can beat him with the stick........

We'll said Jon needs some financial lessons.

I wonder how many people really care as much as the supporters on this forum. As far as I can see, there are a lot of supporters who really couldn't care less about our colours, and don't share the hatred of Tan that some seem to have. Less than 150 people have actually bothered to vote so far, and only 12% want him out whatever he does. Starting to think that anti-Tan brigade on this forum may not have the support they think they have.

So basically currently 38% support the rebrand and 62% oppose it, it's not the 90% support it then that Tan quoted!

have you got a link to him saying 90% support the rebrand ?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

WOW,do you really mean that last bit?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

really???????????.............finding it hard to know are we better off finacially with or without him explains lots.........

Yep. You do realise his "investments" are loans right? Tan wants his money back and the club owe him millions, like he's already said in one of his last interviews. You should know this.

yes Jon i realise it gets said here a hundred times a day by people like yourself that dont seem to grasp that they are not 3rd party debts......Dalman quoted Carl a figure to buy the club..........the figure happened to be Tans total investment...the figure would have been an identical amount if debt had been converted..........its ALLhis money.........im sure you understand but like many its easier to pretend you dont so you can beat him with the stick........

We'll said Jon needs some financial lessons.

i dont think anyone needs lessons...........they say it simply because it adds fuel and hope other people are stupid enough to repeat it......

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

WOW,do you really mean that last bit?

Number two. I hate Tan with a passion but if he gave us our identity back I'd be happy for him to stay. It's just hard to tell whether we're better off with or without him (financially).

really???????????.............finding it hard to know are we better off finacially with or without him explains lots.........

Yep. You do realise his "investments" are loans right? Tan wants his money back and the club owe him millions, like he's already said in one of his last interviews. You should know this.

yes Jon i realise it gets said here a hundred times a day by people like yourself that dont seem to grasp that they are not 3rd party debts......Dalman quoted Carl a figure to buy the club..........the figure happened to be Tans total investment...the figure would have been an identical amount if debt had been converted..........its ALLhis money.........im sure you understand but like many its easier to pretend you dont so you can beat him with the stick........

We'll said Jon needs some financial lessons.

i dont think anyone needs lessons...........they say it simply because it adds fuel and hope other people are stupid enough to repeat it......

Jons as dull as they come, he actually believes what he says

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100m loan which secured the future of our club. On that Tan haslied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

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pathetic............what exactly is the point in changing his post....dont have an answer?..hate the truth?

would love to know how this is allowed

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100m loan which secured the future of our club. On that Tan haslied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

fixed for you

pathetic............what exactly is the point in changing his post....dont have an answer?..hate the truth?

would love to know how this is allowed

how what is allowed(I changed it toungue in cheek by the way) ? What I have said is Tan is loaning us money is that true or not, or are you blinded by the truth also ?

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100m loan which secured the future of our club. On that Tan haslied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

fixed for you

pathetic............what exactly is the point in changing his post....dont have an answer?..hate the truth?

would love to know how this is allowed

how what is allowed(I changed it toungue in cheek by the way) ? What I have said is Tan is loaning us money is that true or not, or are you blinded by the truth also ?

im not the one changing other peoples posts to fit my agenda mate......
and tbh i have no gripes about him calling it loans because should he ever sell the club ..its exactly the same amount of money he will want whether his investment is loans or not.......just glad we dont have 3rd parties chasing us for cash,,,,,,,the well being of my club is paramount to me........

Where's the 'Im happy to accept the rebrand as long as tan sticks to his word and does debt to equity swap' That was why it was accepted by the majority in the first place want it? On the promise of a debt free club?

Not really the promise was 100m loan which secured the future of our club. On that Tan haslied. Most wanted the glory I would say.

fixed for you

pathetic............what exactly is the point in changing his post....dont have an answer?..hate the truth?

would love to know how this is allowed

how what is allowed(I changed it toungue in cheek by the way) ? What I have said is Tan is loaning us money is that true or not, or are you blinded by the truth also ?

im not the one changing other peoples posts to fit my agenda mate......
and tbh i have no gripes about him calling it loans because should he ever sell the club ..its exactly the same amount of money he will want whether his investment is loans or not.......just glad we dont have 3rd parties chasing us for cash,,,,,,,the well being of my club is paramount to me........

I haven't changed his post though ,his original post is still there if you read the forum only moderators can change the posts , I think you are taking what I said way to seriously when I clearly meant it as a joke

Option 2 is never going to happen so everyone wanting our identity back has to vote for option 1 surely? Very alarming that option 1 has so little votes but I suppose that's what our club has turned into with the number of plastics now supporting us.

but the question is what would you want to happen...not whats the most likley. IF tan turned us to blue would you want him at the club (thats IF...not WILL)

If Tan turned us blue I would still want him gone. I will forever hate Tan for what he's turned our club into and I will never forgive him. Unfortunately, the majority of our fans have been "bought" by Tan funding new players, facilities, red stands etc, despite him continually lying to us and breaking promises. What "good" Tan does for our club is pointless when the identity of our club has been extinguished. Tan has got me seriously considering whether to go to home games anymore. Scarfgate gave me a feeling a million times lower than any humiliating defeat to Maidstone, Cambridge etc. Tan has put me through this and done this to me and I will forever despise him for it. I just want my club back and to be able to feel part of my club again, whatever the level.

scarfgate tells you everything you need to know about the fan base. over 90% of the fans were happy to take the red scarf and put it around their neck that night so no wonder tan quotes 90% are for the red but when relegation looms the majority of the people who took the red scarf now hold up their blue one in protest.
basically a stadium full of hypocrites if truth be known.