' Today at the CCS - the new stand '

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

surely if sitting in the stand is endorsing the rebrand then so is sitting anywhere in the ground?

i still go to games and i always will. but i have a lot of respect for those who stopped going in august 2012. people who are using the new stand as the final straw in my eyes are pathetic. i refuse to believe that the team playing in red wasn't enough to get you to boycott but the colour of some plastic seats are?

NAH! when the goal lines are put on the pitch I cannot see any restricted views there

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

surely if sitting in the stand is endorsing the rebrand then so is sitting anywhere in the ground?

i still go to games and i always will. but i have a lot of respect for those who stopped going in august 2012. people who are using the new stand as the final straw in my eyes are pathetic. i refuse to believe that the team playing in red wasn't enough to get you to boycott but the colour of some plastic seats are?

Excellent point.

The new stand looks great,to moan about the colour of a seat is a bit much tbh.

When we are in our compromise kit of blue & red the stadium will look superb and personally i think the ayatollah seats are a great way of remembering the hard slog we had over the years and the thousand's city fans home and away slapping there heads ,no other club had a chant like it , we just got to grin and bear it this year and see if VT comes across if we get promoted ,great days being spoilt by a selfish arrogant man , who if he'd of listened to the fans on colour change he would be god status to us by now..

I like it next time I go I m gonna get tickets for it

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

surely if sitting in the stand is endorsing the rebrand then so is sitting anywhere in the ground?

i still go to games and i always will. but i have a lot of respect for those who stopped going in august 2012. people who are using the new stand as the final straw in my eyes are pathetic. i refuse to believe that the team playing in red wasn't enough to get you to boycott but the colour of some plastic seats are?

Excellent point.

The new stand looks great,to moan about the colour of a seat is a bit much tbh.

agree, the red is a bit of a reminder of the rebrand but anyone who comes on this board gets reminded enough already

i also wonder how many people would be complaining about the stand if we'd built it in the preseason after promotion as opposed to after relegation...

It has been mentioned in other threads since the stand has taken shape about the view from the rear corners, judging by this photograph I'd say that those corners will not be able to see the goal!? I've also noticed that for the Super Cup there were tickets being advertised as a restricted view.... not aware of any seats in the old style stadium that had such a problem!?

There are no restricted view seats of the pitch. The seats at the ends of the stands are in line with the goal line, so whilst you may not see the net bulge, you wont miss it entering the goal. Hope this helps!

Interesting point about the design of the stand - although the roof would have stayed up on its own, due to the cantilever design, the addition of the side screens seems to suggest that the design is now a 'propped cantilever' design, as although the side screens are principally there for the installation of glass panels for weather protection, the beams supporting the side screens are substantial, and load bearing.

Hmmmmmmmm - interesting.

Interesting point about the design of the stand - although the roof would have stayed up on its own, due to the cantilever design, the addition of the side screens seems to suggest that the design is now a 'propped cantilever' design, as although the side screens are principally there for the installation of glass panels for weather protection, the beams supporting the side screens are substantial, and load bearing.

Hmmmmmmmm - interesting.

could also be to stop fans falling to their deaths from the sides :')

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

surely if sitting in the stand is endorsing the rebrand then so is sitting anywhere in the ground?

i still go to games and i always will. but i have a lot of respect for those who stopped going in august 2012. people who are using the new stand as the final straw in my eyes are pathetic. i refuse to believe that the team playing in red wasn't enough to get you to boycott but the colour of some plastic seats are?

If the pro blues all chose to stop going, we would be left with a red stadium and there would be no 19:27 blue scarf protest! I still go to games to wear my blue and keep protesting, but at the same time there is a tipping point for every fan and the red stand is one extra thing killing the identity of our club.

The best protest would be for everyone to boycott the new stand. But instead, fans will agree to sit in the new stand and endorse the red seats to make Tan think there are still quite a few fans supporting his rebrand. Therefore, Tan will keep winning and the longer we let him get away with it, the more red we will see make its way into our stadium and the more what's left of our tradition will be extinguished.

I don't want to be a part of that and like I said, I'm not sure I can take much more as I'm enjoying home games less and less. It's only the away games where I see a different atmosphere, surrounded by proud Bluebirds and really still feel a part of my club these days.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

surely if sitting in the stand is endorsing the rebrand then so is sitting anywhere in the ground?

i still go to games and i always will. but i have a lot of respect for those who stopped going in august 2012. people who are using the new stand as the final straw in my eyes are pathetic. i refuse to believe that the team playing in red wasn't enough to get you to boycott but the colour of some plastic seats are?

If the pro blues all chose to stop going, we would be left with a red stadium and there would be no 19:27 blue scarf protest! I still go to games to wear my blue and keep protesting, but at the same time there is a tipping point for every fan and the red stand is one extra thing killing the identity of our club.

The best protest would be for everyone to boycott the new stand. But instead, fans will agree to sit in the new stand and endorse the red seats to make Tan think there are still quite a few fans supporting his rebrand. Therefore, Tan will keep winning and the longer we let him get away with it, the more red we will see make its way into our stadium and the more what's left of our tradition will be extinguished.

I don't want to be a part of that and like I said, I'm not sure I can take much more as I'm enjoying home games less and less. It's only the away games where I see a different atmosphere, surrounded by proud Bluebirds and really still feel a part of my club these days.

personally i think it'd be better to fill the stand up with people wearing blue, then no one would see the red.

but if you think stopping the support of your club over some seats is worth it then be my guest...tra now

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

Wez, what an awful attitude to show to a fan, your standpoint has truly shocked me throughout all this rebrand shite.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

because of what colour seats they sit in? you're a tool mate

i wont respect anyone who, after having a season in the prem, decides just now is the time to boycott

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

So when you go to away games do you make preference that there's a blue seat? When you go to Wales games will you ask to sit in a red seat?

I for one would want to sit in the new stand for an experience from seeing it at a higher level. It's absolutely pathetic that some people think these seats have any meaning to them. Jesus christ they're coloured seats, you're not sitting on a human being. Do you get annoyed when you sit on a white/yellow seat? When we were filling in gaps and had to use green seats did you get pissed off then?

I don't think they give two damns whether you respect them or not when they'll be spending their money they earned wanting to watch football from a different view point.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

So when you go to away games do you make preference that there's a blue seat? When you go to Wales games will you ask to sit in a red seat?

I for one would want to sit in the new stand for an experience from seeing it at a higher level. It's absolutely pathetic that some people think these seats have any meaning to them. Jesus christ they're coloured seats, you're not sitting on a human being. Do you get annoyed when you sit on a white/yellow seat? When we were filling in gaps and had to use green seats did you get pissed off then?

I don't think they give two damns whether you respect them or not when they'll be spending their money they earned wanting to watch football from a different view point.

What a ridiculous post using different games and stadiums to justify your point. I don't care about Wales games or other stadiums, I care about Cardiff City and the Cardiff City stadium maintaining its tradition and identity. A few green seats to fill gaps does not make the whole stand look green! The whole stand still looked blue and a few green seats were put there on a temporary bases. But with this new stand, the whole stand is red and it's permanent. Big difference! I really do give up with fans like you and fans like you are the reason why I don't enjoy home games as much now.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

So when you go to away games do you make preference that there's a blue seat? When you go to Wales games will you ask to sit in a red seat?

I for one would want to sit in the new stand for an experience from seeing it at a higher level. It's absolutely pathetic that some people think these seats have any meaning to them. Jesus christ they're coloured seats, you're not sitting on a human being. Do you get annoyed when you sit on a white/yellow seat? When we were filling in gaps and had to use green seats did you get pissed off then?

I don't think they give two damns whether you respect them or not when they'll be spending their money they earned wanting to watch football from a different view point.

What a ridiculous post using different games and stadiums to justify your point. I don't care about Wales games or other stadiums, I care about Cardiff City and the Cardiff City stadium maintaining its tradition and identity. A few green seats to fill gaps does not make the whole stand look green! The whole stand still looked blue and a few green seats were put there on a temporary bases. But with this new stand, the whole stand is red and it's permanent. Big difference! I really do give up with fans like you and fans like you are the reason why I don't enjoy home games as much now.

yes those many many months of tradition and identity at the CCS

its fans like YOU that make pro blues look like backwards idiots

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

So when you go to away games do you make preference that there's a blue seat? When you go to Wales games will you ask to sit in a red seat?

I for one would want to sit in the new stand for an experience from seeing it at a higher level. It's absolutely pathetic that some people think these seats have any meaning to them. Jesus christ they're coloured seats, you're not sitting on a human being. Do you get annoyed when you sit on a white/yellow seat? When we were filling in gaps and had to use green seats did you get pissed off then?

I don't think they give two damns whether you respect them or not when they'll be spending their money they earned wanting to watch football from a different view point.

What a ridiculous post using different games and stadiums to justify your point. I don't care about Wales games or other stadiums, I care about Cardiff City and the Cardiff City stadium maintaining its tradition and identity. A few green seats to fill gaps does not make the whole stand look green! The whole stand still looked blue and a few green seats were put there on a temporary bases. But with this new stand, the whole stand is red and it's permanent. Big difference! I really do give up with fans like you and fans like you are the reason why I don't enjoy home games as much now.

yes those many many months of tradition and identity at the CCS

its fans like YOU that make pro blues look like backwards idiots

The Cardiff City Stadium represents Cardiff City Football Club which has a tradition and identity of being BLUE! Maybe you should engage your brain first before posting such drivel?

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

So when you go to away games do you make preference that there's a blue seat? When you go to Wales games will you ask to sit in a red seat?

I for one would want to sit in the new stand for an experience from seeing it at a higher level. It's absolutely pathetic that some people think these seats have any meaning to them. Jesus christ they're coloured seats, you're not sitting on a human being. Do you get annoyed when you sit on a white/yellow seat? When we were filling in gaps and had to use green seats did you get pissed off then?

I don't think they give two damns whether you respect them or not when they'll be spending their money they earned wanting to watch football from a different view point.

What a ridiculous post using different games and stadiums to justify your point. I don't care about Wales games or other stadiums, I care about Cardiff City and the Cardiff City stadium maintaining its tradition and identity. A few green seats to fill gaps does not make the whole stand look green! The whole stand still looked blue and a few green seats were put there on a temporary bases. But with this new stand, the whole stand is red and it's permanent. Big difference! I really do give up with fans like you and fans like you are the reason why I don't enjoy home games as much now.

yes those many many months of tradition and identity at the CCS

its fans like YOU that make pro blues look like backwards idiots

The Cardiff City Stadium represents Cardiff City Football Club which has a tradition and identity of being BLUE! Maybe you should engage your brain first before posting such drivel?

im all for the history and tradition of the city, you're the one who started talking about the stadiums history.

and you said you dont respect people who want to sit in a new stand because of the colour seats (incidently they'll be the ones who only see a blue stadium)

and you're the one telling me to engage my brain? have a word fella

I'd happily sit in a red seat and watch CCFC in blue shirts & with the correct identity. Whilst I don't like the colour of the seats, if red shirts aren't enough to make you walk, I can't see why a red seat would.

It looks awful with the red though, don't get me wrong. Fans sitting up there are doing no different than fans who sit in blue seats.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

Tonteg, thats the most ridiculous post ive ever read, you think you are a better fan for paying VT for your blue seat than Joe Bloggs for his red one.......im speechless

I'd happily sit in a red seat and watch CCFC in blue shirts & with the correct identity. Whilst I don't like the colour of the seats, if red shirts aren't enough to make you walk, I can't see why a red seat would.

It looks awful with the red though, don't get me wrong. Fans sitting up there are doing no different than fans who sit in blue seats.

exactly, i genuinley don't understand this weird form of protest.

im not saying for all, but im sure for some people its no coinsidence that they're getting all up in arms now that we are not in the prem any more.

thats just speculation though, i wouldnt like to say for sure

im not saying for all, but im sure for some people its no coinsidence that they're getting all up in arms now that we are not in the prem any more.

thats just speculation though, i wouldnt like to say for sure

I feel exactly the same. I know some people who genuinely have felt worse about the rebrand the further along we go & I know of some who have used it as an excuse not to renew.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

Tonteg, thats the most ridiculous post ive ever read, you think you are a better fan for paying VT for your blue seat than Joe Bloggs for his red one.......im speechless

Red seat, red scarf, red shirt, red anything. Fans associating theirselves with red inside the CCS are showing their support for Tan's rebrand. For you to think otherwise is absolutely baffling.

why are folks worrying about restricted views
i wont be surprised...and like some has already started to happen, to steward the stand fans will be moved toward the centre of the stand... not going to have fans strewn out all over the stand no matter where your seat is, few here few there

seems like im the only one who thinks the whole thing is hideous... never mind the colour, i only just used to the stadium as it is and then they build this on it

and now the red seats and the stick men... awful

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

Tonteg, thats the most ridiculous post ive ever read, you think you are a better fan for paying VT for your blue seat than Joe Bloggs for his red one.......im speechless

Red seat, red scarf, red shirt, red anything. Fans associating theirselves with red inside the CCS are showing their support for Tan's rebrand. For you to think otherwise is absolutely baffling.

If a Cardiff City fan chooses to pay a little extra of his or her hard earned money to get a better view of the team they love then so be it, it doesnt mean that they are 'PRO RED' or anything else for that matter, this is what you've got to get over, its an individual choice, and a choice you should not judge people on.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

Tonteg, thats the most ridiculous post ive ever read, you think you are a better fan for paying VT for your blue seat than Joe Bloggs for his red one.......im speechless

Red seat, red scarf, red shirt, red anything. Fans associating theirselves with red inside the CCS are showing their support for Tan's rebrand. For you to think otherwise is absolutely baffling.

If a Cardiff City fan chooses to pay a little extra of his or her hard earned money to get a better view of the team they love then so be it, it doesnt mean that they are 'PRO RED' or anything else for that matter, this is what you've got to get over, its an individual choice, and a choice you should not judge people on.

I disagree 100%. We will be red forever with fans like yourself accepting Tan's red rebrand. It doesn't surprise me mind and this is why I'm seriously considering giving up the home games. This is my final season of the price freeze and then I will have to seriously consider what to do the following season.

Looks absolutely hideous. The past 2 seasons has felt less like I've been watching my team in Tan's horrendous red. Scarfgate was the night I felt like an away fan in my own stadium, I felt I didn't belong there anymore and this season, it will also feel less like our stadium with those red seats. The fact our ayatollah has been hijacked and put onto the red seats rubs it in further for me. The ayatollah will always resemble the Cardiff City BLUEbirds, not Tan's red dragons. Our club is a joke, our stand is a joke, our owner is a joke and I'm not sure how much more I can take.

Don't have to support Cardiff do you ?

I might stop going to home games. Going to away games, it still feels we are all supporting our club, dressed in blue, singing blue songs, the fans passionately uniting together as one. Home games in contrast feels like supporting a completely different club with completely different fans who I struggle to connect with. I have no respect for any fan sitting in that new stand as they are endorsing Tan's red seats and are willingly allowing the tradition and identity of our football club to die.

So because fans want a better view in a new stand, they're endorsing the rebrand? Not really, they're just paying for a ticket like the rest of us

Rubbish. There's not a bad view in the CCS, so any fan choosing to sit in a red seat instead of the tens of thousands of blue seats giving perfectly good enough views are endorsing the rebrand; and I will not respect these fans.

Tonteg, thats the most ridiculous post ive ever read, you think you are a better fan for paying VT for your blue seat than Joe Bloggs for his red one.......im speechless

Red seat, red scarf, red shirt, red anything. Fans associating theirselves with red inside the CCS are showing their support for Tan's rebrand. For you to think otherwise is absolutely baffling.

If a Cardiff City fan chooses to pay a little extra of his or her hard earned money to get a better view of the team they love then so be it, it doesnt mean that they are 'PRO RED' or anything else for that matter, this is what you've got to get over, its an individual choice, and a choice you should not judge people on.

correct i used level 4 because it was best place for me at time! not because support rebrand
not sure what sitting in new stand as got to do with anything as its all part of ground

surley packing the stand with fans in blue would be the best plan?
flags/scarfs and banners flying and covering the red shite