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Re: Cala

Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:58 pm

Cala wasn't awful in the Premier League. In fact, if we'd have stayed up I'd have been happy keeping him on our books. He could have a great season in the Championship this year.

Re: Cala

Fri Jul 04, 2014 2:33 pm

Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.



watch what you are saying people will call you clueless, but I agree with you also think back to the hull game where he just stood off their player allowing get a free header think it was the striker they signed from Everton

Re: Cala

Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:17 pm

Thought Cala was decent enough.

Re: Cala

Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:20 pm

Cala is a poor mans David Luiz. Great technical ability for a centre back, can chip in with goals but can also drop clangers defensively! Would like to see him given a try as a holding midfielder. I would rather us field defenders who can actually defend personally.

Re: Cala

Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:33 pm

ThomasC wrote:I called early on that he should of been considered to fill in at Left Back. Most of our goals conceded came from our left. I understand the need to be patient with Declan John. However, we can consider he was not ready to handle the callibre of player who constantly exposed his weaknesses.

Fabio was only a slight improvement defensively. I would of put Cala in. I know he lacked pace, but would of been more aware of dangerous situations and alot more cynical!!!


Declan isn't great a defending yet but the problem on the left was also the problem with the winger in front who is not that disciplined in tracking back ( noone- probably why the defensively minded malky was reluctant to play him).
I can't remember which poster said it but it was pointed out that it wasn't a coincidence that Fabio became noticeably better when he had daehli in front of him.

At the end of the campaign the left side was the the best side. It was the right side with ktc everyone was having at him instead. Ogs needs to pair the right winger with the right FB. Declan should have his chance to play but make sure the winger is maybe someone like burgstaller that can defend.
:thumbup:

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 12:33 am

Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.


Cheers Roath. :thumbup:

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:18 am

Well if it is Roath he is right, mark my words he will be a liability at the back this season

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:22 am

Seems you're in the minority here bin. No doubt we'll come back to this post during the season and u can admit you got it wrong. Cala will be more than fine :ayatollah:

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:40 am

Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.

Yeah he dropped a clan get but he also took one for the team to try to prevent a goal, sometimes it goes your way sometimes it don't look at qpr in playoff final. As Grangeendstar said his passion and desire shone out for me, shame all players can't play with that same passion. I think we got a class defender who will excellent at championship level.

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:40 am

Dessy1927 wrote:
Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.

Yeah he dropped a clan get but he also took one for the team to try to prevent a goal, sometimes it goes your way sometimes it don't look at qpr in playoff final. As Grangeendstar said his passion and desire shone out for me, shame all players can't play with that same passion. I think we got a class defender who will excellent at championship level.

Clanger

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:41 am

Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.

Yeah he dropped a clan get but he also took one for the team to try to prevent a goal, sometimes it goes your way sometimes it don't look at qpr in playoff final. As Grangeendstar said his passion and desire shone out for me, shame all players can't play with that same passion. I think we got a class defender who will excellent at championship level.

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:42 am

Dessy1927 wrote:
Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.

Yeah he dropped a clan get but he also took one for the team to try to prevent a goal, sometimes it goes your way sometimes it don't look at qpr in playoff final. As Grangeendstar said his passion and desire shone out for me, shame all players can't play with that same passion. I think we got a class defender who will excellent at championship level.

Excell bloody predictive grrrr

Re: Cala

Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:06 pm

Lt. Frank Drebin wrote:Seems you're in the minority here bin. No doubt we'll come back to this post during the season and u can admit you got it wrong. Cala will be more than fine :ayatollah:



so we will Lt. so we will

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:01 am

LonCar wrote:
ThomasC wrote:I called early on that he should of been considered to fill in at Left Back. Most of our goals conceded came from our left. I understand the need to be patient with Declan John. However, we can consider he was not ready to handle the callibre of player who constantly exposed his weaknesses.

Fabio was only a slight improvement defensively. I would of put Cala in. I know he lacked pace, but would of been more aware of dangerous situations and alot more cynical!!!


Declan isn't great a defending yet but the problem on the left was also the problem with the winger in front who is not that disciplined in tracking back ( noone- probably why the defensively minded malky was reluctant to play him).
I can't remember which poster said it but it was pointed out that it wasn't a coincidence that Fabio became noticeably better when he had daehli in front of him.

At the end of the campaign the left side was the the best side. It was the right side with ktc everyone was having at him instead. Ogs needs to pair the right winger with the right FB. Declan should have his chance to play but make sure the winger is maybe someone like burgstaller that can defend.
:thumbup:


Spot-on, enjoyed reading that, :thumbup: :thumbup: The balance of the team was not right last season. The best players in the country were definitely targeting our fullbacks. KTC would be an attacker's dream the way he allows players to run in behind him!

Interesting to see what Ole does with KTC this season. I prefer McNaughton & giving Brayford the chance to show what he was bought for. :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:07 am

Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.

Bit harsh to judge him on one game, when he was very good on most other occasions and IMO, class!

Also to bracket him with Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston is a heads gone IMO! :)

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:13 am

ThomasC wrote:
LonCar wrote:
ThomasC wrote:I called early on that he should of been considered to fill in at Left Back. Most of our goals conceded came from our left. I understand the need to be patient with Declan John. However, we can consider he was not ready to handle the callibre of player who constantly exposed his weaknesses.

Fabio was only a slight improvement defensively. I would of put Cala in. I know he lacked pace, but would of been more aware of dangerous situations and alot more cynical!!!


Declan isn't great a defending yet but the problem on the left was also the problem with the winger in front who is not that disciplined in tracking back ( noone- probably why the defensively minded malky was reluctant to play him).
I can't remember which poster said it but it was pointed out that it wasn't a coincidence that Fabio became noticeably better when he had daehli in front of him.

At the end of the campaign the left side was the the best side. It was the right side with ktc everyone was having at him instead. Ogs needs to pair the right winger with the right FB. Declan should have his chance to play but make sure the winger is maybe someone like burgstaller that can defend.
:thumbup:


Spot-on, enjoyed reading that, :thumbup: :thumbup: The balance of the team was not right last season. The best players in the country were definitely targeting our fullbacks. KTC would be an attacker's dream the way he allows players to run in behind him!

Interesting to see what Ole does with KTC this season. I prefer McNaughton & giving Brayford the chance to show what he was bought for. :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Would possibly have been spot on, had he not named Noone as playing on the left in front of Declan John, as Noone played predominantly on the right when he was fit! ;)

Be interesting to see where Burgstaller plays as well, as I believe he can operate on either flank!

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:55 am

antill_dunning wrote:Not good enough at defending for me, would like to see him play as a holding midfielder though. Turner might not pass it out of the back well but he's a lot better defender than cala even if cala is the better footballer.


I think he would make a great DM. Can tackle and a good distributor and able to carry the ball from deep positions. :bluescarf:

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:03 am

Overthemoon wrote:
Colourblind wrote:I find most of these posts incredible. Did any of these people actually watch the game at Sunderland. which was televised for those that obviously missed it. Cala's very costly blunder reminded me of Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston combined. It cost us any hope we had in staying up. To my mind he owes us big time. I am nowhere near convinced he is good enough.

Bit harsh to judge him on one game, when he was very good on most other occasions and IMO, class!

Also to bracket him with Andy Jordan and Rhys Weston is a heads gone IMO! :)


Anyone having a pop at Cala about the Sunderland game clearly has selective memory or only watches on the TV.

I can't say I am 100% convinced but his games against Everton (where he scored and was outstanding defensively) and Southampton (same again !!) gave me enough to think that now he is aclimatised to British football he could be the ball playing CB OGS obviously is looking for.

One thing is for sure, he has massive passion and was virtually in tears at the end of the Everton game. Much too soon to write him off in my opinion.

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:04 am

Cala made one huge and costly blunder in a critical game, but other than that he was more often your best player in the entire squad ever since he first played. This is coming from a neutral observer. Be thankful, Cala will be great for you.

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:08 am

Overthemoon wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
LonCar wrote:
ThomasC wrote:I called early on that he should of been considered to fill in at Left Back. Most of our goals conceded came from our left. I understand the need to be patient with Declan John. However, we can consider he was not ready to handle the callibre of player who constantly exposed his weaknesses.

Fabio was only a slight improvement defensively. I would of put Cala in. I know he lacked pace, but would of been more aware of dangerous situations and alot more cynical!!!


Declan isn't great a defending yet but the problem on the left was also the problem with the winger in front who is not that disciplined in tracking back ( noone- probably why the defensively minded malky was reluctant to play him).
I can't remember which poster said it but it was pointed out that it wasn't a coincidence that Fabio became noticeably better when he had daehli in front of him.

At the end of the campaign the left side was the the best side. It was the right side with ktc everyone was having at him instead. Ogs needs to pair the right winger with the right FB. Declan should have his chance to play but make sure the winger is maybe someone like burgstaller that can defend.
:thumbup:


Spot-on, enjoyed reading that, :thumbup: :thumbup: The balance of the team was not right last season. The best players in the country were definitely targeting our fullbacks. KTC would be an attacker's dream the way he allows players to run in behind him!

Interesting to see what Ole does with KTC this season. I prefer McNaughton & giving Brayford the chance to show what he was bought for. :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Would possibly have been spot on, had he not named Noone as playing on the left in front of Declan John, as Noone played predominantly on the right when he was fit! ;)

Be interesting to see where Burgstaller plays as well, as I believe he can operate on either flank!


Haha! :thumbup: :laughing6: yes your right Noonie plays on the right, a one-trick pony cutting inside for his stronger left foot. It's a great trick mind!! :lol:

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:03 am

binero wrote:Honestly don't think he is cut out for the Championship, if I'm honest don't rate him at all


He's a good player with passion and he doesn't mind getting stuck into a challenge. Give him a chance, remember he got thrown into a side on a quick decline, in and out of the team with a new full back next to him almost every time and still done well a few mistakes aside

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:33 am

Only been playing at the highest level in Spain for the last few years! I think he's more than capable of playing in the Championship.

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:35 am

It will be cala and turner in my opinion, huds will have to earn his place again

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:57 am

Gavin wrote:It will be cala and turner in my opinion, huds will have to earn his place again


I'd take Hudson over Turner. Reads the game better and doesnt participate in hoofball half as much.

Re: Cala

Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:31 am

nubbsy wrote:
binero wrote:Honestly don't think he is cut out for the Championship, if I'm honest don't rate him at all


He's a good player with passion and he doesn't mind getting stuck into a challenge. Give him a chance, remember he got thrown into a side on a quick decline, in and out of the team with a new full back next to him almost every time and still done well a few mistakes aside




Of course I will give him a chance and I hope he proves me wrong and I will come on here and say I got it wrong