The poulation of Uruguay, only 3m

I was shocked to read that and disappointed that they can be such a force in world football wheras we, Wales, with the same populus, are such poor, and with football being our national sport as well.Costa Rica have a population of just over 4m also and find themselves in a world cup quarter final.

What have they got that we haven't and what can be done about it? Otherwise, we will all go throughout our lives not seeing Wales in a major tournament.

The Uruguyans haven't Rugby rammed down their throats by the media and in schools.

They have always had a reputation in World football. Wales have 1958 to crow about.

Welsh rugby is the reason why Welsh football is so shit.

For me with the exception of a couple, we have had utter garbage managers, colemans tactics suck and he will not get us into euro 2016. A good manager would get these players flying, we were going great under speed until he passed. It's a shame the welsh FA wont sign a foreign manager, no doubt they'll sign up Bellamy or giggs when Coleman fails and they won't do much better. I would of liked to seen lagerback as manager, he was interested to but the welsh FA signed up that joker Coleman.

For me with the exception of a couple, we have had utter garbage managers, colemans tactics suck and he will not get us into euro 2016. A good manager would get these players flying, we were going great under speed until he passed. It's a shame the welsh FA wont sign a foreign manager, no doubt they'll sign up Bellamy or giggs when Coleman fails and they won't do much better. I would of liked to seen lagerback as manager, he was interested to but the welsh FA signed up that joker Coleman.

agree, we need a bigger budget or we will never sttract the best managers.

but for that we need more people attending games...vicious cycle

For me with the exception of a couple, we have had utter garbage managers, colemans tactics suck and he will not get us into euro 2016. A good manager would get these players flying, we were going great under speed until he passed. It's a shame the welsh FA wont sign a foreign manager, no doubt they'll sign up Bellamy or giggs when Coleman fails and they won't do much better. I would of liked to seen lagerback as manager, he was interested to but the welsh FA signed up that joker Coleman.

Lagerback is a failure of a manager, hasn't done more than Coleman. Just because he is foreign doesn't mean he'll be a success.

We are a small nation with a small budget. I can't think of many successful managers who would manage us. I vaguely remember a former CL winning manager (who won it ages ago) wanting to take the job but his name escapes me. That is probably the best we'd get.

Coleman has improved our football lately so I feel he is the right man for the job. Remember, we have no divine right to go to any tournament, we are not good enough outside of 2/3 players.

For me with the exception of a couple, we have had utter garbage managers, colemans tactics suck and he will not get us into euro 2016. A good manager would get these players flying, we were going great under speed until he passed. It's a shame the welsh FA wont sign a foreign manager, no doubt they'll sign up Bellamy or giggs when Coleman fails and they won't do much better. I would of liked to seen lagerback as manager, he was interested to but the welsh FA signed up that joker Coleman.

Lagerback is a failure of a manager, hasn't done more than Coleman. Just because he is foreign doesn't mean he'll be a success.

We are a small nation with a small budget. I can't think of many successful managers who would manage us. I vaguely remember a former CL winning manager (who won it ages ago) wanting to take the job but his name escapes me. That is probably the best we'd get.

Coleman has improved our football lately so I feel he is the right man for the job. Remember, we have no divine right to go to any tournament, we are not good enough outside of 2/3 players.

If you call a manager a failure getting a shit team like Iceland to the World Cup Qualifier playoffs, then I'm not sure what you would call any of Wales previous managers

Lagerback is a failure of a manager, hasn't done more than Coleman. Just because he is foreign doesn't mean he'll be a success.

he's done plenty more than Coleman.

We are a small nation with a small budget. I can't think of many successful managers who would manage us. I vaguely remember a former CL winning manager (who won it ages ago) wanting to take the job but his name escapes me. That is probably the best we'd get.

I can see why some managers would be interested in working with the likes of Bale & Ramsey.

Coleman has improved our football lately so I feel he is the right man for the job. Remember, we have no divine right to go to any tournament, we are not good enough outside of 2/3 players.

we are absolutely good enough to get into EURO 2016, especially with the expanded tournament & a kind group. We should be top three in the group, which should give us a chance. Anything less than that and I'd deem it a failure.

Sort out the welsh FA would be a start. One thing I get annoyed about is that every good team seems to play multiple friendlies. Every time England have let's say 2 friendlies, we'll play just the 1, or likely 0. Our team will never mould in this system.

The answer is fairly simple. 1 in 3 kids in Uruguay participate in football activities (club or school) and many working class kids see football as their only possible hope of climbing out of poverty, however remote the chances of a professional contract may be.

I am not sure how Wales compares in terms of numbers, but I would guess far less than 1 in 3 play footy, especially as some schools still don't accommodate football. Worse still, many state run schools don't encourage competitiveness.

Uruguayan kids I imagine also have less technical distractions in their lives and so are probably spending a higher proportion of their time playing outside.

This link gives an insight.

http://www.mimundial.com.uy/uc_11_1.html

For me with the exception of a couple, we have had utter garbage managers, colemans tactics suck and he will not get us into euro 2016. A good manager would get these players flying, we were going great under speed until he passed. It's a shame the welsh FA wont sign a foreign manager, no doubt they'll sign up Bellamy or giggs when Coleman fails and they won't do much better. I would of liked to seen lagerback as manager, he was interested to but the welsh FA signed up that joker Coleman.

Lagerback is a failure of a manager, hasn't done more than Coleman. Just because he is foreign doesn't mean he'll be a success.

We are a small nation with a small budget. I can't think of many successful managers who would manage us. I vaguely remember a former CL winning manager (who won it ages ago) wanting to take the job but his name escapes me. That is probably the best we'd get.

Coleman has improved our football lately so I feel he is the right man for the job. Remember, we have no divine right to go to any tournament, we are not good enough outside of 2/3 players.

If you call a manager a failure getting a shit team like Iceland to the World Cup Qualifier playoffs, then I'm not sure what you would call any of Wales previous managers

Most Wales managers have been shit, I am not disagreeing with that. Lagerback has had 3 international jobs and has done nothing in those jobs. He took over an already qualified Nigeria for the World Cup in 2010, and got one point with a group containing Greece and South Korea.

He is a failure.

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

Spot on. Has to be up there with the dumbest post of the year so far, top 5 easy.

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Lagerback is a failure of a manager, hasn't done more than Coleman. Just because he is foreign doesn't mean he'll be a success.

he's done plenty more than Coleman.



We are a small nation with a small budget. I can't think of many successful managers who would manage us. I vaguely remember a former CL winning manager (who won it ages ago) wanting to take the job but his name escapes me. That is probably the best we'd get.

I can see why some managers would be interested in working with the likes of Bale & Ramsey.

Coleman has improved our football lately so I feel he is the right man for the job. Remember, we have no divine right to go to any tournament, we are not good enough outside of 2/3 players.

we are absolutely good enough to get into EURO 2016, especially with the expanded tournament & a kind group. We should be top three in the group, which should give us a chance. Anything less than that and I'd deem it a failure.

Like what? Did you even hear of him before today? List me what he has done in football. Coleman did well with Fulham (before their players were sold) and Larissa (yeah, Greek league, but still more than Lars has done)

Give me names of successful managers who you'd think would work here then. Remember to consider the salary that the FAW offers.

Our side isn't good outside of standout players like Bale and Ramsey. We have no goalscorer, horrible depth, and a very weak (physically) midfield and Hennessey isn't the same since his injuries, so add a lack of good goalkeeper to that.

So we can agree he'll be our best ever manager if he gets us through to the Euros?

What a failure Lars Lagerback is

In 2002, he led Sweden to the World Cup where Sweden were drawn in the 'group of death', together with England, Argentina and Nigeria. Sweden surprisingly won the group but subsequently lost against Senegal in the first knockout round. In 2004, Sweden qualified for their third straight championship. In the Euro 2004, Sweden made it to the quarter-finals where they lost to Holland.

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

He took them to one World Cup and one Euros. He was joint manager for a few years remember. I shouldn't have used failure, mistake on my part. Still, one good job out of three, isn't enough to be considered a success either.

What a failure Lars Lagerback is

In 2002, he led Sweden to the World Cup where Sweden were drawn in the 'group of death', together with England, Argentina and Nigeria. Sweden surprisingly won the group but subsequently lost against Senegal in the first knockout round. In 2004, Sweden qualified for their third straight championship. In the Euro 2004, Sweden made it to the quarter-finals where they lost to Holland.

Well done on copying a Wiki extract. You forgot to copy that he was joint manager for 4 years as well.

I wish Coleman was a failure like largerback

Unlike these other countries we participate in more sports.
These other small nations put most of there focus in to football but as we all know there is rugby, that takes up many .
Add swimming cycling plus athletics and many more to that then it dont leave thatany for football.
England should be more concerned tho.

What a failure Lars Lagerback is

In 2002, he led Sweden to the World Cup where Sweden were drawn in the 'group of death', together with England, Argentina and Nigeria. Sweden surprisingly won the group but subsequently lost against Senegal in the first knockout round. In 2004, Sweden qualified for their third straight championship. In the Euro 2004, Sweden made it to the quarter-finals where they lost to Holland.

Well done on copying a Wiki extract. You forgot to copy that he was joint manager for 4 years as well.

How does me copying wiki change the fact your post is the thickest iv ever seen. I knew what he had achieved before I copied wiki, unlike you it seems.

What a failure Lars Lagerback is

In 2002, he led Sweden to the World Cup where Sweden were drawn in the 'group of death', together with England, Argentina and Nigeria. Sweden surprisingly won the group but subsequently lost against Senegal in the first knockout round. In 2004, Sweden qualified for their third straight championship. In the Euro 2004, Sweden made it to the quarter-finals where they lost to Holland.

Well done on copying a Wiki extract. You forgot to copy that he was joint manager for 4 years as well.

How does me copying wiki change the fact your post is the thickest iv ever seen. I knew what he had achieved before I copied wiki, unlike you it seems.

That doesn't even make sense, whatever.

I know who he is, I know what he's achieved and admitted I used the wrong term.

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

He took them to one World Cup and one Euros. He was joint manager for a few years remember. I shouldn't have used failure, mistake on my part. Still, one good job out of three, isn't enough to be considered a success either.

So basically your saying what he achieved with Iceland was a failure, you wouldn't say he over achieved

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Like what? Did you even hear of him before today?

Judging by your "failure" opinion, it's you that probably hasn't heard of him before today..

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

He took them to one World Cup and one Euros. He was joint manager for a few years remember. I shouldn't have used failure, mistake on my part. Still, one good job out of three, isn't enough to be considered a success either.

So basically your saying what he achieve with Iceland was a failure, you wouldn't say he over achieved

Since when do you judge whether a manager is successful or not when he is still in a job? He could finish bottom in the Euro qualification group for all we know. Would he be a success then? I think not.

Like what? Did you even hear of him before today?

Judging by your "failure" opinion, it's you that probably hasn't heard of him before today..

Ignore the rest of my post and my others before it why don't you.

No point debating with you anyway. You just pick and choose what comments and what parts you want to reply to.

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

He took them to one World Cup and one Euros. He was joint manager for a few years remember. I shouldn't have used failure, mistake on my part. Still, one good job out of three, isn't enough to be considered a success either.

So basically your saying what he achieve with Iceland was a failure, you wouldn't say he over achieved

Since when do you judge whether a manager is successful or not when he is still in a job? He could finish bottom in the Euro qualification group for all we know. Would he be a success then? I think not.

We can only go on what he has done in his career, no one can predict the future and going on his past he is far from a failure, regarding what he has achieved with a poor Iceland team and the swedes.

so taking sweeden to several world cups and euros, as well as over-achieving with Iceland doesnt count then?

He took them to one World Cup and one Euros. He was joint manager for a few years remember. I shouldn't have used failure, mistake on my part. Still, one good job out of three, isn't enough to be considered a success either.

So basically your saying what he achieve with Iceland was a failure, you wouldn't say he over achieved

Since when do you judge whether a manager is successful or not when he is still in a job? He could finish bottom in the Euro qualification group for all we know. Would he be a success then? I think not.

We can only go on what he has done in his career, no one can predict the future and going on his past he is far from a failure, regarding what he has achieved with a poor Iceland team and the swedes.

Of course not, that isn't my point.

You can't say he is a success with Iceland just because of one campaign. See after he has retired whether or not he was successful.

Ignore the rest of my post and my others before it why don't you.

No point debating with you anyway. You just pick and choose what comments and what parts you want to reply to.

I certainly will, seeing as most of it was about listing his achievements & Bobby had already done it. Even then, you tried to have a pop at him, even though he's rinsed you.

Failure...

Ignore the rest of my post and my others before it why don't you.

No point debating with you anyway. You just pick and choose what comments and what parts you want to reply to.

I certainly will, seeing as most of it was about listing his achievements & Bobby had already done it. Even then, you tried to have a pop at him, even though he's rinsed you.

Failure...

He didn't list anything, paulh did.

We can all be pedantic like you Barry.

Just admit uv had a mare with this one, we've all had one at one point. Colemans biggest achievement was getting Fulham to finish in the top half of the prem for one reason, hardly a success. If Coleman ever achieves anything near to what lagerback achieved in his managerial career, I will be surprised.

He didn't list anything, paulh did.

We can all be pedantic like you Barry.

He definitely did, Llandaff.

What a failure Lars Lagerback is

In 2002, he led Sweden to the World Cup where Sweden were drawn in the 'group of death', together with England, Argentina and Nigeria. Sweden surprisingly won the group but subsequently lost against Senegal in the first knockout round. In 2004, Sweden qualified for their third straight championship. In the Euro 2004, Sweden made it to the quarter-finals where they lost to Holland.

There we go, quoted it for you.

& Good for you.. We can all be wrong like you too, Llandaff.