OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED BY CLUB - RED SEATS

Colours apart, it looks impressive when complete.

I think the stand gives the stadium some unique qualities from the normal MFI stadiums.

you compared us with a bar of chocolate and there are 100 posts at least where you argue for the rebrand, honestly its pointless discussing it with you.

by caerdydd_78 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:59 pm

Why do we need the rebrand?? why did snickers change from the marathon? why did Opel fruits change to Starburst simple, to attract a new market and to attract new investment.

You doubt he will invest this money? do you know him personally?? do yo know his plans? all this is doubt simply because he is making changes you dont like, and people are using the rebrand to plant doubt in peoples minds.

Listen, he is a businessman, whether you like it or not, these changes will go-ahead until anyone comes up with an alternative. You state that your question never gets answered? My own opinion is below.

Its an investment, not a purchase. He did not buy CCFC because his grandfather was a fan or he lives in Ely, he is a businessman, he bought the club to make money, people who are self made billionaires are smart, not stupid, this guy is building the biggest shopping mall in the world, he ownes the rights to McDonalds in malaysia, he is a very clued up individual.

He has promised upto £100 million in total, this includes what he has already put in, including moneys to safeguard CCFC in the up and coming season, has promised future expansion of the CCS and promised future development of a world class training facility.

Why?? for £100 million he may get the following -

1) World Class Training Facility
2) Sustainable playing squad with a significant value
3) World Class stadium with possible naming rights
4) Possible Premiership Football
5) Sucessful brand awareness in Malaysia and possible China.
6 ) Debt free club

Look up Man Utd, a club millions upon million in debt, yet worth Billions in the open market.I know Man Utd maybe an exceptio and I doubt that CCFC will ever be as big, but this is a risk they are taking. Read the below as this confirms Man Utd to be worth a possible £2 billion.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/67f3c41c-b6ed ... z1yR6HW5ho

If someone walks into the club in say 2 years, he could sell for £2-300 million?? or even more, there is your answer, he may sell for 4 or 5 times the amount he invested, remember this is an investment not a lifelong purchase.

I hope this could be a possible answer to your question, because from a business point of view, this guy is a genius.

I have one question also? what are the alternatives to this investment?? do you have surplus of £70 million hanging around? what are the other possible options?

And that post does not make sense? It's a business Annis, when will you ever understand, I think you'll also find not once did I compare CCFC to a chocolate bar, please grow up.

The following are facts

The clubs fan base is divided big time
The debt has risen more and more
We are back in the Championship
Season ticket sales are down on the previous 2 years
We are not Debt Free
The brand did not do well in Asia or Malaysia, failed big time
Training facilities still not done

What ever you try to twist or say you have to admit the above are all Facts yes or no ?

Annis, you mention all the above yet celebrate when the club signs players? Slight contradiction don't you think?

You keep mentioning debt, Man Utd signed a a players for £30m yesterday, and there debt is close to a billion! There is no way in a million years, tan will walk away with a loss, you know this yet bang on about it all day.

Didn't your mate Sam ring up £30m debt buying our way out of leagues 1&2?? Let me teach you something, a business cannot grow without the use of debts, you keep forgetting we have assets, sustanable ones. The stadium must not be approx £60-70m, let along £50M+ on the playing squad.

You keep forgetting, we all support one club, something you keep forgetting. You just like insulting ones who still support the club in its current situation.

So am not the only one

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Simon Underhill Sadly, top of the championship by Christmas and less will care
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Neil Wixon Look horrible
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Darren Stevens Disgusting makes me very angry and sad that our proud club has come to this
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Robert John Potter pathetic
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Jo Bluearmy Barmy Blanchard why do you think i aint renewing my ticket -TAN OUT


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Looks OK , like the attoylla thing. I will not by red though until the home shirt is blue with proper badge. I am not against red as long it does not wipe out blue and our heritage. I prefer red to yellow, and I see a lot of yellow on past kits.

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Stephen Coad to some success is more important than history but thoughs who have been through thick and thin with cardiff must be hating that red shite


Gareth Hughes Boycott the stand

Colours apart, it looks impressive when complete.

I think the stand gives the stadium some unique qualities from the normal MFI stadiums.

you compared us with a bar of chocolate and there are 100 posts at least where you argue for the rebrand, honestly its pointless discussing it with you.

by caerdydd_78 » Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:59 pm

Why do we need the rebrand?? why did snickers change from the marathon? why did Opel fruits change to Starburst simple, to attract a new market and to attract new investment.

You doubt he will invest this money? do you know him personally?? do yo know his plans? all this is doubt simply because he is making changes you dont like, and people are using the rebrand to plant doubt in peoples minds.

Listen, he is a businessman, whether you like it or not, these changes will go-ahead until anyone comes up with an alternative. You state that your question never gets answered? My own opinion is below.

Its an investment, not a purchase. He did not buy CCFC because his grandfather was a fan or he lives in Ely, he is a businessman, he bought the club to make money, people who are self made billionaires are smart, not stupid, this guy is building the biggest shopping mall in the world, he ownes the rights to McDonalds in malaysia, he is a very clued up individual.

He has promised upto £100 million in total, this includes what he has already put in, including moneys to safeguard CCFC in the up and coming season, has promised future expansion of the CCS and promised future development of a world class training facility.

Why?? for £100 million he may get the following -

1) World Class Training Facility
2) Sustainable playing squad with a significant value
3) World Class stadium with possible naming rights
4) Possible Premiership Football
5) Sucessful brand awareness in Malaysia and possible China.
6 ) Debt free club

Look up Man Utd, a club millions upon million in debt, yet worth Billions in the open market.I know Man Utd maybe an exceptio and I doubt that CCFC will ever be as big, but this is a risk they are taking. Read the below as this confirms Man Utd to be worth a possible £2 billion.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/67f3c41c-b6ed ... z1yR6HW5ho

If someone walks into the club in say 2 years, he could sell for £2-300 million?? or even more, there is your answer, he may sell for 4 or 5 times the amount he invested, remember this is an investment not a lifelong purchase.

I hope this could be a possible answer to your question, because from a business point of view, this guy is a genius.

I have one question also? what are the alternatives to this investment?? do you have surplus of £70 million hanging around? what are the other possible options?

great post didn't see that before

Wez, 2012 and has that all happened ?

Most of it has annis only time will tell if it all does

Wez the following are facts

The clubs fan base is divided big time
The debt has risen more and more
We are back in the Championship
Season ticket sales are down on the previous 2 years
We are not Debt Free
The brand did not do well in Asia or Malaysia, failed big time
Training facilities still not done

What ever you try to twist or say you have to admit the above are all Facts yes or no Wez?

not facts yet annis ,people in Asia never heard of Cardiff city untill last season so we will wait and see if the rebrand in the future was or wasn't a success over there
We have always been divided annis ever since I've been going always been protesting against chairman and different manger s nothing new there ,regards the debt it's now only owed to one man now not to every Tom dick and Harry on a fictional company like Langston ,I do believe he has to convert most of the debt as this was part of why people like me put up with the rebrand ,training ground is going through planning ,

Looks stupid now!






















They should make the whole stadium red

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Jo Bluearmy Barmy Blanchard simon i care just like other true fans but i will not set foot in that ground and give my money for that tw*t he is already robbing fans with his v12 finance x





Gareth Haynes Makes you feel sick!
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So am not the only one

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Simon Underhill Sadly, top of the championship by Christmas and less will care
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Neil Wixon Look horrible
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Darren Stevens Disgusting makes me very angry and sad that our proud club has come to this
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Robert John Potter pathetic
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Jo Bluearmy Barmy Blanchard why do you think i aint renewing my ticket -TAN OUT


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Why can't they just post on here? I don't care about the opinions of the people of Facebook, as do many others, because they can't debate with them

Remember Respect everyones opinions

And mine is

it looks pathetic BLUE half a stand and RED the top half and I am entitled to my opinion, my final say on the seats

Red seats are a total disgrace. An act of pure spite. Tan hates Cardiff City more than any Worzel or JB.

Looks great! Forget it being red, I think a different colour adds a great contrast and the ayatollahs looks awesome!

Red seats are a total disgrace. An act of pure spite. Tan hates Cardiff City more than any Worzel or JB.

He ain't a fan, he never will be, it's a business!! Do we not have any fans who understand?

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Paul Mond Hammond · 8 mutual friends
for once I'm speechless!!!!
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David Jones Unbelievable. TAN OUT
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David Cugini shocking.. and with next to no fucker sat in them that is the view we will all have... he does not deserve to put ayatollah symbols in there... rather it be all red than that...
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Anthony Eveleigh I ave no longer got a season ticket gutted.. tan aint aving my cash he can f**k right off and his red seats
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David Goddard Another sad sad day four our club. Another part of us dies
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David Goddard Chris Thomas
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Gareth Haynes Not bad I suppose if you're sat in the ninian and won't be able to see it but sitting anywhere else and it's always going to be in view, what's wrong the man!!??!!WE DON'T WANT IT TAN!!!
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Stephen Coates go in the red seats for a pre-season game & smash em to bits ?
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Dillon Lavelle f**k me how long before all the seats are red a new owner wouldn't change them seats let alone a full stadium
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Matthew Mcmullen Tan we don't want ur shittynot lucky red seats go back home to malaysia
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I remember the same old Red brigade saying we will never have Red seats and it was all bullshit

" PATHETIC " Thats all Ive got to say on the matter

Annis I famously said at the beginning what was going to happen and all I got was abuse.

Anyone else blue going in them?

Best protest is to take up the seats and be a sea of blue.
Never yield

Walking away is easy.

Anyone else blue going in them?

Best protest is to take up the seats and be a sea of blue.
Never yield

Walking away is easy.

I actually think that boycotting the stand completely will hurt Tan more than anything. The TV cameras would expose the red sham every home game if the stand was empty. If anything, the atmosphere would improve because the other stands would be full. Just an idea......but imagine Tan explaining to his mates every game why the red seats are empty. He'd be fuming.

Remember Respect everyones opinions

And mine is

it looks pathetic BLUE half a stand and RED the top half and I am entitled to my opinion, my final say on the seats

Didn't say that. My point is that you're friends with people who are clearly against the re-brand etc, but we can't debate with them. Whereas on a forum people have plenty of different opinions, maybe I'd take your posts from FB over actual ex players or managers but these are just normal people on a social network website so I don't care

I remember the same old Red brigade saying we will never have Red seats and it was all bullshit

" PATHETIC " Thats all Ive got to say on the matter

Annis I famously said at the beginning what was going to happen and all I got was abuse.

Nukes at least were keeping the BLUE flag flying high on this forum

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Bob Walker-Higgins You lads just have to remember, it's your club not his and you'll be there long after he's gone. Keep fighting him and keep the blue in your hearts
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Pam Mrs-Simmo Mama-Soulcrew nutter
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Anthony Eveleigh He dont give a flying fuc its simple his club..his team..his red..nothing else matters at all ..all the protests dont mean nowt to him he got his toy and thats it..tha guys a nutjob..its worse than eva but i pray for the day we back to how we were bluebirds together..
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Pam Mrs-Simmo Mama-Soulcrew people gotta stop going in I no its hard but gotta change tactics
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Jo Bluearmy Barmy Blanchard thas why he is doing that stand putting red seats in then he is guna start changing the rest of the seats bit by bit
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Steve Perry <>< Pitiful and small-minded.
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Saverio Risoli Well ....stay away from the stadium .....don't go to home game .its not that difficult , this is my third year am missing .....since ' 66 ...
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Jo Bluearmy Barmy Blanchard if anyone is guna renew their seats and on finance i said it before dont go with v12 you can stil go with zebra but they wont tell you that
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Neil MacInnes Shocking mate!! Gut wrenching!!
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Simon Needham Shit!!!!
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Peter Edwards We knew it was coming, thats awful, why can,t things ever be just normal with our club.
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Lewis Hawkins Take blue Alaric bags up and put them over the seats as a statement
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Richard Davies looks ridiculous like Tan's dress sense, it's time to crank up the protests you only have to look at the pitiful club shop sale that red has not sold, it's time to take our club back #tanout #dalmanout #sacktheboard
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Anyone else blue going in them?

Best protest is to take up the seats and be a sea of blue.
Never yield

Walking away is easy.

think someone should make some blue seat covers

went from stunning to disgusting in one day! club fucked up again!

Agree . I will always support the team , unfortunately I f*cking hate the club

That looks pathetic.

As for those sticking up fo rit on here I'm just so glad you are a minority of a minority of a minority.

went from stunning to disgusting in one day! club fucked up again!

Agree . I will always support the team , unfortunately I f*cking hate the club

I support the name Cardiff City/Team/Manager/those that fight for our True Identity, but not the Regime

I want you all to be honest with your answers
Would any of you be complaining about the colour of the seats in the new stand if we still played in blue
I am against us being red and always have been but in all honesty I believe that the red and blue seats match up well and the ayatollahs look superb
I think that deep down most of you think that also,but because of your hatred of the rebrand anything that you see red at the club then it's shit and whatever other name comes in your head
We all have to except what is done is done and let's get a life and cheer our team back to the premier and if we do make sure Tan keeps his promise over a rethink on what colour we play in in the future

I remember the same old Red brigade saying we will never have Red seats and it was all bullshit

" PATHETIC " Thats all Ive got to say on the matter

I said it would happen when I postrd about the rebrand back in 2012

Luckily I don't pay to watch the Ninian Stand seats, I pay to watch our team

I want you all to be honest with your answers
Would any of you be complaining about the colour of the seats in the new stand if we still played in blue
I am against us being red and always have been but in all honesty I believe that the red and blue seats match up well and the ayatollahs look superb
I think that deep down most of you think that also,but because of your hatred of the rebrand anything that you see red at the club then it's shit and whatever other name comes in your head
We all have to except what is done is done and let's get a life and cheer our team back to the premier and if we do make sure Tan keeps his promise over a rethink on what colour we play in in the future

Thats a fair point but the way I see it, this is yet another opportunity for Tan to chip away at our blue heritage. It might only be a few thousand seats, but he has wrecked the look of the whole stadium by doing this. He's clearly still miffed at the pro blue protests and this is just a way of showing us who's boss.
The man is a fruitloop and so are his parasitic hangers on. The club could have made a fortune if we had returned to blue. These seats are the actions of a very spiteful man.......and a group of spineless weasel advisors. Disgraceful.

Luckily I don't pay to watch the Ninian Stand seats, I pay to watch our team

You call that lucky??

That looks pathetic.

As for those sticking up fo rit on here I'm just so glad you are a minority of a minority of a minority.

Do you honestly believe anyone who buys merchandise, tickets or even a match day programme supports the red? If that's the case do Carl and Annis support it? Do they not attend matches? Do they not cheer when we score in red? Oh right.

That looks pathetic.

As for those sticking up fo rit on here I'm just so glad you are a minority of a minority of a minority.

Do you honestly believe anyone who buys merchandise, tickets or even a match day programme supports the red? If that's the case do Carl and Annis support it? Do they not attend matches? Do they not cheer when we score in red? Oh right.

I have not bought a programme,merchandise,food or anything else from the club for 2 years other than my season ticket.
If I am honest it took me 17 games to clap them in 2012,then I thought its not Malky's or the players fault, cheer them on.

Also I am more there at home games to keep the BLUE alive in the stadium.

But after 43 years of not missing a season its like a drug, u love the name Cardiff City and u fight for your TRUE IDENTITY BLUE


Also I never defend Tan for what he has done like you

It looks great.

Of course, the less of you who buy tickets for the top level, the more red will be on show. Perhaps we should all ask for a move!