Ian Wright...

Ian Wright is a f*cking wanker.

What's playing football and being in the military got to do with each other.

Why the f**k would a guy who's been getting shot at care if an over paid ponce doesn't want to represent England in a game. Does he think there on the same level of importance or something.

Should we all ring a soldier and explain why we can't be bothered to do something?

What a idiot.

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Two loony left fuckwits agree with one another. Hardly something to celebrate is it..?

Coming from the most ridiculed man on this forum? f**k off, you clown...

yet I don't disrespect our armed forces. Thankfully there weren't many like you during the times when our freedom was at stake. I bet generations of your family would be turning in their grave by your comments so do us all a favour and f**k off yourself

There's a difference between signing up to fight fascism in Europe and signing up to fight in iraq, afgan etc

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You think its embarrassing to respect people who stand in front of loons with guns, who plant IED's to kill them???

Bit of a strange attitude but each to their own.

1. Its their own choice
2. They're fighting causes I don't believe in
3. Anyone who thinks the military should be for intervention as opposed to defence and is happy with what we have done is as much of a knob as Tony Blair

Although I respect our armed forces, I don't respect the wars we've Been involved in over recent years (Afghanistan Iraq) pointless wars that have cost billions, countless lives, achieved hardly anything positive, and in my oppinion has made the world a much more dangerous place (like hitting a hornets nest with a stick) but that's down to our governments total incompetence on how all this would eventually pan out if we kept on sticking our noses in where its not wanted....yet our governments still insist on making the same mistakes ... Syria et, They are breeding terrorism and using our armed forces to do it

but Governments decisions have nothing to do with the people who are in the armed forces..?

The people who enter the forces are helping carry out those decisions. I didn't go in the army and never will because I don't believe in what is happening. I think military should be to defend when we are attacked and not to go aroind trying to police the world and force them to accept our western ideologies.

You think its embarrassing to respect people who stand in front of loons with guns, who plant IED's to kill them???

Bit of a strange attitude but each to their own.

1. Its their own choice
2. They're fighting causes I don't believe in
3. Anyone who thinks the military should be for intervention as opposed to defence and is happy with what we have done is as much of a knob as Tony Blair

They dont decide where they fight or who they fight.

You should be thankful for them volunteering as without them doing that we would be forced into it.

Two loony left fuckwits agree with one another. Hardly something to celebrate is it..?

Coming from the most ridiculed man on this forum? f**k off, you clown...

yet I don't disrespect our armed forces. Thankfully there weren't many like you during the times when our freedom was at stake. I bet generations of your family would be turning in their grave by your comments so do us all a favour and f**k off yourself

Difference then know it all was that we were under attack and threat. We were not the instigators, Nazi Germany were. We defended our lands and the lands of our allies. We did not go around trying to force western ways on other countries because of politically motivated reasons. Its quite obvious why UKIP told you to sling your hook, its because you haven't got a clue. Thank heavens you're not speaking on the parties behalf.

Wow...

Some views here are scary...

A soldier's job is to follow orders,
some people join the army because they have no other options
these brave men are willing to die in the line of duty for us to keep our freedoms.

NOW... The "war on terror" is farcical. We shouldn't be in Iraq, or Afghanistan under the false pretences we are given in the media - I totally agree. We have no proof of WMD's, we have no home threat's (or threat of invasion) I actually don't know what we are still doing there.... But I digress...

The individuals are following orders from above. orders that you DO NOT turn down. You can face serious consequences for it. They are doing exactly as they are told, and the blame should lie with the men upstairs - not the troops.

Just wow...

Anybody that willingly signs up to protect the freedom and liberty I enjoy gets my total and unquestionable respect.

The OP wants to be thankful enough people do sign up, otherwise there would be conscription or at least a period of compulsary military service.

The soldiers dont have a say on why they fight, they just follow orders......orders which can result in their death.

"When you go home tell them of us and say: for your tomorrow we gave our today"

Judging by your views i am guessing that you are a bitter individual who never has, and never will achieve anything in life. My gut instinct is that you have always longed to have the respect that our soldiers have, but do not have the strength to earn it!

Wow...

Some views here are scary...

A soldier's job is to follow orders,
some people join the army because they have no other options
these brave men are willing to die in the line of duty for us to keep our freedoms.

NOW... The "war on terror" is farcical. We shouldn't be in Iraq, or Afghanistan under the false pretences we are given in the media - I totally agree. We have no proof of WMD's, we have no home threat's (or threat of invasion) I actually don't know what we are still doing there.... But I digress...

The individuals are following orders from above. orders that you DO NOT turn down. You can face serious consequences for it. They are doing exactly as they are told, and the blame should lie with the men upstairs - not the troops.

Just wow...

I just don't understand why anyone would sign up knowing they'll end up in iraq or afghanistan since we've been there, guess it's different for people who have been serving a longer time

Wow...

Some views here are scary...

A soldier's job is to follow orders,
some people join the army because they have no other options
these brave men are willing to die in the line of duty for us to keep our freedoms.

NOW... The "war on terror" is farcical. We shouldn't be in Iraq, or Afghanistan under the false pretences we are given in the media - I totally agree. We have no proof of WMD's, we have no home threat's (or threat of invasion) I actually don't know what we are still doing there.... But I digress...

The individuals are following orders from above. orders that you DO NOT turn down. You can face serious consequences for it. They are doing exactly as they are told, and the blame should lie with the men upstairs - not the troops.

Just wow...

I just don't understand why anyone would sign up knowing they'll end up in iraq or afghanistan since we've been there, guess it's different for people who have been serving a longer time

Some people don't have the educational opportunities or correct upbringing to be able to do anything else,
Other people, like you've stated, were already serving when this all kicked off...

I have a good friend in the army, he's based in Germany now, but has completed a tour of Afghanistan. And although I dont agree with his reasons for being there, I totally respect his line of work, and what he would be willing to do for us if (god forbid) we were ever under invasion.

Wow...

Some views here are scary...

A soldier's job is to follow orders,
some people join the army because they have no other options
these brave men are willing to die in the line of duty for us to keep our freedoms.

NOW... The "war on terror" is farcical. We shouldn't be in Iraq, or Afghanistan under the false pretences we are given in the media - I totally agree. We have no proof of WMD's, we have no home threat's (or threat of invasion) I actually don't know what we are still doing there.... But I digress...

The individuals are following orders from above. orders that you DO NOT turn down. You can face serious consequences for it. They are doing exactly as they are told, and the blame should lie with the men upstairs - not the troops.

Just wow...

I just don't understand why anyone would sign up knowing they'll end up in iraq or afghanistan since we've been there, guess it's different for people who have been serving a longer time

Some people don't have the educational opportunities or correct upbringing to be able to do anything else,
Other people, like you've stated, were already serving when this all kicked off...

I have a good friend in the army, he's based in Germany now, but has completed a tour of Afghanistan. And although I dont agree with his reasons for being there, I totally respect his line of work, and what he would be willing to do for us if (god forbid) we were ever under invasion.

There's always other options. If we were under invasion it's a different matter, that's the only time I would sign up.

You think its embarrassing to respect people who stand in front of loons with guns, who plant IED's to kill them???

Bit of a strange attitude but each to their own.

1. Its their own choice
2. They're fighting causes I don't believe in
3. Anyone who thinks the military should be for intervention as opposed to defence and is happy with what we have done is as much of a knob as Tony Blair

They dont decide where they fight or who they fight.

You should be thankful for them volunteering as without them doing that we would be forced into it.

Two loony left fuckwits agree with one another. Hardly something to celebrate is it..?

Coming from the most ridiculed man on this forum? f**k off, you clown...

yet I don't disrespect our armed forces. Thankfully there weren't many like you during the times when our freedom was at stake. I bet generations of your family would be turning in their grave by your comments so do us all a favour and f**k off yourself

There's a difference between signing up to fight fascism in Europe and signing up to fight in iraq, afgan etc

Do you really believe anyone actually signed up just to go into Iraq and Afghan..?

Two loony left fuckwits agree with one another. Hardly something to celebrate is it..?

Coming from the most ridiculed man on this forum? f**k off, you clown...

yet I don't disrespect our armed forces. Thankfully there weren't many like you during the times when our freedom was at stake. I bet generations of your family would be turning in their grave by your comments so do us all a favour and f**k off yourself

There's a difference between signing up to fight fascism in Europe and signing up to fight in iraq, afgan etc

Do you really believe anyone actually signed up just to go into Iraq and Afghan..?

I don't know why people signed up, all I can say is surely they knew they what they were signing up for and I can't understand why people would sign up for it.

So you are assuming that people signed up to go to Iraq and Afghan..? If that really is your belief then I feel sorry for you

So you are assuming that people signed up to go to Iraq and Afghan..? If that really is your belief then I feel sorry for you

No I'm sure they signed up for various reasons but I personally couldn't sign up knowing I would be going into an illegal war

Troops who sign up know exactly what is possible and what they could get called to do just like police officers and NHS personnel do. The notion that just because there is no other paths for them is utter nonsense. We live in a society that gives youngsters an opportunity to earn a great education. There are plenty of options in modern Britain.

As for the person that says about the respect soldiers get. What respect? Those who fought in ww1 and ww2 deserve respect. They were defenders of our land. Completely different to what happens now and yes people do sign up post invasion to get deployed for whatever reasons.

I would never sign up. Pawns in a political game of chess sent off to die by those in power who are too gutless to do it themselves. Why or how anyone sees that as a viable option I never know.

Everyone knows what the army is about these days - politically motivated intervention for whatever reason. That's not a just reason to kill anyone at all. If you're going to buy into all the modern day propaganda and false patriotism then knock yourselves out.

All this military intervention is again another reason I'm voting UKIP. We used to have our navy stationed around this island to defend it when needed. Now we are off trying to police the world. People know this and still sign up. People do have choices. To suggest they don't is laughable. In countries where they are made to join there is no choice. Why not join the police, the fire service, etc.

The British Army doesn't serve us any more. It used to serve us but now serves the political elite in Westminster and their buddies across the Atlantic. Those who willingly sign up made a choice out of their own free will to serve these people and their interests. Fortunately many in the UK don't. People will fight in a time of struggle.

I have total respect for everyone in the forces, but total disrespect for the orders they have to follow. I wish those in the forces were told the real reasons they're being sent to places instead of getting brainwashed with lies. Nobody is going to do a Normandy style invasion on us. The real reasons the troops are currently risking their lives in countries like Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan are explained on this site. http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data ... 1320062234

You know what else has been found in Afghanistan? 1 trillion dollars worth of lithium. What is lithium used for? Computers, mobile phones, drones and soon to be electric cars. Why can't the troops be told the real reasons they're in there?

Iran are next. I have suspicions a false flag has already been attempted on Iran and I have suspicions Iran are being led into a trap in Baghdad. It's a fact ISIS militants have US passports, which is highly suspicious.

All this military intervention is again another reason I'm voting UKIP.

Last week you said you were voting green as you hate capatalism even though its a wasted vote. Make your mind up!


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All this military intervention is again another reason I'm voting UKIP.

Last week you said you were voting green as you hate capatalism even though its a wasted vote. Make your mind up!


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Green is wasted vote. We need to shake up the other three.

Also nice of you to ignore the rest of the post.

All this military intervention is again another reason I'm voting UKIP.

Last week you said you were voting green as you hate capatalism even though its a wasted vote. Make your mind up!


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Green is wasted vote. We need to shake up the other three.

Also nice of you to ignore the rest of the post.

No point in answering you as you'll just change your mind to argue against the common feeling of the thread.

As a current serving soldier, I'm shocked with some of the tripe I've witnessed in this thread.

As a current serving soldier, I'm shocked with some of the tripe I've witnessed in this thread.

Because we disagree with you? How very democratic.

So you are assuming that people signed up to go to Iraq and Afghan..? If that really is your belief then I feel sorry for you

No I'm sure they signed up for various reasons but I personally couldn't sign up knowing I would be going into an illegal war

Whos saying that any of them did sign to join an illegal war..? You are just using soundbites in an attempt to strengthen your argument when realistically you are just assuming that

So you are assuming that people signed up to go to Iraq and Afghan..? If that really is your belief then I feel sorry for you

No I'm sure they signed up for various reasons but I personally couldn't sign up knowing I would be going into an illegal war

Whos saying that any of them did sign to join an illegal war..? You are just using soundbites in an attempt to strengthen your argument when realistically you are just assuming that

Why should we show them more respect than say a plumber? Both choose their occupation knowing what it involves or could involve depending on the job required.

As said I have a lot of respect for those who defended us. I don't for those now serving the political elite and their wider interests.

So you are assuming that people signed up to go to Iraq and Afghan..? If that really is your belief then I feel sorry for you

No I'm sure they signed up for various reasons but I personally couldn't sign up knowing I would be going into an illegal war

Whos saying that any of them did sign to join an illegal war..? You are just using soundbites in an attempt to strengthen your argument when realistically you are just assuming that

Why should we show them more respect than say a plumber? Both choose their occupation knowing what it involves or could involve depending on the job required.

As said I have a lot of respect for those who defended us. I don't for those now serving the political elite and their wider interests.

When are you leaving the UK now..? or has that changed again..?

You think its embarrassing to respect people who stand in front of loons with guns, who plant IED's to kill them???

Bit of a strange attitude but each to their own.

So you are assuming that people signed up to go to Iraq and Afghan..? If that really is your belief then I feel sorry for you

No I'm sure they signed up for various reasons but I personally couldn't sign up knowing I would be going into an illegal war

Whos saying that any of them did sign to join an illegal war..? You are just using soundbites in an attempt to strengthen your argument when realistically you are just assuming that

Why should we show them more respect than say a plumber? Both choose their occupation knowing what it involves or could involve depending on the job required.

As said I have a lot of respect for those who defended us. I don't for those now serving the political elite and their wider interests.

When are you leaving the UK now..? or has that changed again..?

When it suits me. None of your business.