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Re: O/T nigel Farage

Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:27 am

You and your assumptions again regarding UKIP. They do not want to privatise the NHS whatsoever. One person suggested it and the media go mad about it, it isn't party policy yet people like you claim that its fact

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:16 am

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:I don't want to pull out of the EU and the EU wants us to stay, so we have the advantage. We could say we want these certain powers back Yada Yada Yada. And I think we'd get them.

No we wouldn't. The EU do not want a renogitiation deal. This is what has caused so much euroscepticism across Europe in the first place.

What they don't realise is, UKIP want to privatise the nhs (how will the poor pay for healthcare?), get rid of maternity and paternity pay and get rid of the Human Rights Act.


1. They don't want to fully privatise it and part privatisation will help boost it as its struggling. The free healthcare for the poor will never be done away with - it is a global status symbol to the degree the UK has just been voted number one in the world - any party wishing to fully privatise it would be signing their own election defeat next time around.

2. You mean maternity and paternity pay that are abused up and down the country by both employers and employees? You do realise this has actually damaged the economy don't you? A lot of employers won't hire women because its a risk knowing they may get pregnant in the near future and have to fork out money. That is extremely bad.

3. The human rights act is outdated and a ridiculous blanket approach taken to numerous different countries with different backgrounds and cultures etc. It is abused all the time costing us a lot of money at EU level but because these are not factored into the national budget people seen oblivious to EU expenditure. This will be replaced by a Bill of Rights if UKIP are in power (unlikely) which will adopt the best rights and dismiss the worst. I can't see how that is bad especially considering rights will be decided mainly on a democratic basis.

Personally I'd like to see Britain follow the Swiss constituentally. Recently there was a referendum on whether or not Switzerland should pay 2.8billion euros on fighter jets from Sweden which would come out of the education budget. The people voted no. That's real democracy, that's what I'd like to see in Britain.

This is what UKIP want.......they wish to devolve politics down to local levels and give people more democratic power. Also Switzerland is not a true democracy - no EU member is a true democracy because part of the EU deal is to give up some power in regards to laws, rights and over half of regulations to give the rest of Europe a say in Brussels.

Politics in Switzerland is devolved right down so people have a say on local matters. This is actually an aim of UKIP.

Personally, I'd like Britain to be back as a major player in the world again, at the moment we're a joke. The f*cking Chinese government (who hack BRITISH companies on an industrial scale) will have a major stake in our new nuclear plants when they're built. We should own them. I'd like to see the railway network re-nationalised but it won't happen due to the cost of buying them back.

Wishful thinking in getting true democracy but why not?


The only way Britain becomes a major player is by going it alone outside of the EU. Otherwise we remain a non democratic EU member state heading towards federalisation which idiots like Nick Clegg want.

As for true democracy well that's never happening within the EU. No EU member state is truly democratic.

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:20 pm

Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:24 pm

Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!


can't you see that I'm laughing at myself within this or not..? I take you don't understand people being sarcastic being as you are a women in business you must take everything seriously. ;)

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:27 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!


can't you see that I'm laughing at myself within this or not..? I take you don't understand people being sarcastic being as you are a women in business you must take everything seriously. ;)

Yet again you have to turn the the comments into personal or sexist snipes, just think of us as being different but equal, no better and no worse..

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:29 pm

Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!


can't you see that I'm laughing at myself within this or not..? I take you don't understand people being sarcastic being as you are a women in business you must take everything seriously. ;)

Yet again you have to turn the the comments into personal or sexist snipes, just think of us as being different but equal, no better and no worse..


Not at all, I was just thinking that maybe being within the business world constantly that you can't seem to switch off and understand people who are being sarcastic. Its very easily done because many people including myself struggle to switch off their work issues when they finish for the day

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:30 pm

Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!


can't you see that I'm laughing at myself within this or not..? I take you don't understand people being sarcastic being as you are a women in business you must take everything seriously. ;)

Yet again you have to turn the the comments into personal or sexist snipes, just think of us as being different but equal, no better and no worse..


Not at all, I was just thinking that maybe being within the business world constantly that you can't seem to switch off and understand people who are being sarcastic. Its very easily done because many people including myself struggle to switch off their work issues when they finish for the day

Fair comment :thumbup:

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:31 pm

Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!


can't you see that I'm laughing at myself within this or not..? I take you don't understand people being sarcastic being as you are a women in business you must take everything seriously. ;)

Yet again you have to turn the the comments into personal or sexist snipes, just think of us as being different but equal, no better and no worse..


Not at all, I was just thinking that maybe being within the business world constantly that you can't seem to switch off and understand people who are being sarcastic. Its very easily done because many people including myself struggle to switch off their work issues when they finish for the day

Fair comment :thumbup:


However I could have easily said that your comment 'God help Wales' was a personal snipe but I won't ;)

Re: O/T nigel Farage

Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:17 am

Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:
Cardiffcitymad wrote:
Military Junta wrote:Well let me put this into the frame then for you all to laugh at the possibility:

Before I had my public argument with UKIP there was a verbel agreement that as I was the second highest UKIP politician in Wales (the first being the previous Welsh MEP) then I would have automatically been their next in line for the Euro seat. This was the real reason why I switched to them in the first place. So if I kept my mouth shut then I could have being doing my AAMB posts from inside the European Parliament!!! Lol

God help Wales!!!


can't you see that I'm laughing at myself within this or not..? I take you don't understand people being sarcastic being as you are a women in business you must take everything seriously. ;)

Yet again you have to turn the the comments into personal or sexist snipes, just think of us as being different but equal, no better and no worse..


Not at all, I was just thinking that maybe being within the business world constantly that you can't seem to switch off and understand people who are being sarcastic. Its very easily done because many people including myself struggle to switch off their work issues when they finish for the day

Fair comment :thumbup:


However I could have easily said that your comment 'God help Wales' was a personal snipe but I won't ;)


then she'd say "can't you tell when people are being sarcastic?" :happy1: