Natman blue

I don't understand the posts/threads aimed at Natman...

Yes, ok, he's annoyed a few people...

But read his posts... he backs up his views very well, and he has every right to hold those views.

Just needs to curb the personal comments sometimes

He hasent backed up his views, I've asked him how can he support tan when he changed us red and that's what the problem is? How can he have no care for our true colours and identity? No answers.
Natman you say tan is not at fault and the problem is the divide between fans, well wake up because it is Vincent tan that has caused this divide between the fans and he is the only one that can unite the fans by returning our colours and identity

Blue, i've backed up my views quite consistently and all across this message board. If you feel I haven't answered something then ask me again as I'm always more than willing to answer. I thought I had answered your question?

Did Vincent tan tell you to say those words or was it annis?

Natman, Ive warned you time and time again, dont bring me in to your once again petty arguments, I dont even know who this poster is, so for the 100th time do not bring me in to your arguments

Twatman blue your full of shit, I speak for my self no1 else but my opinion is the same opinion as the majority of city fans no doubt and you are a minority my friend.

So answer my question the same as Jamesc pointed out,
Tell me now how Vincent tan isn't to blame for the divide between fans since he himself caused the re brand?
Answer that one for me

Yes you can only speak for yourself, so why do you then assume that the majority agree with you. Have the majority of fans participated in the marches? NO they have not. By making such unsubstantiated assumptions and by resorting to insults you betray the lack of strength in your argument.

Look at all the blue in the stadium on matchdays work it out for your self

I don't understand the posts/threads aimed at Natman...

Yes, ok, he's annoyed a few people...

But read his posts... he backs up his views very well, and he has every right to hold those views.

Just needs to curb the personal comments sometimes

He hasent backed up his views, I've asked him how can he support tan when he changed us red and that's what the problem is? How can he have no care for our true colours and identity? No answers.
Natman you say tan is not at fault and the problem is the divide between fans, well wake up because it is Vincent tan that has caused this divide between the fans and he is the only one that can unite the fans by returning our colours and identity

Blue, i've backed up my views quite consistently and all across this message board. If you feel I haven't answered something then ask me again as I'm always more than willing to answer. I thought I had answered your question?

Did Vincent tan tell you to say those words or was it annis?

Natman, Ive warned you time and time again, dont bring me in to your once again petty arguments, I dont even know who this poster is, so for the 100th time do not bring me in to your arguments

Annis, actually try and read my posts before you have a go please.

Twatman blue your full of shit, I speak for my self no1 else but my opinion is the same opinion as the majority of city fans no doubt and you are a minority my friend.

So answer my question the same as Jamesc pointed out,
Tell me now how Vincent tan isn't to blame for the divide between fans since he himself caused the re brand?
Answer that one for me

You've just exactly proved my point, which is why I asked the question. "You speak for yourself", so if that's the case how can you blame tan for dividing the fans? In this instance you want to take responsibility for what you say, but you want to abdicate responsibility for dividing the fans on to Tan. How does that work??? Tan doesn't put thoughts in your head, words in your mouth on caused you to show aggression towards your fellow fans, the people do that all by themselves. tan hasn't called me "twatman" you've done that all by yourself, thus proving my point.

Right answer these questions without going on about a load of shit trying to act a smart arse using silly words to try make your self look intelligent...

1. What is the cause of all the arguments and divide between the fans?

2. Who's idea was it to enforce the re brand and kit and badge change?

Don't spout shit just give 2 simple answers.....

Twatman blue your full of shit, I speak for my self no1 else but my opinion is the same opinion as the majority of city fans no doubt and you are a minority my friend.

So answer my question the same as Jamesc pointed out,
Tell me now how Vincent tan isn't to blame for the divide between fans since he himself caused the re brand?
Answer that one for me

You've just exactly proved my point, which is why I asked the question. "You speak for yourself", so if that's the case how can you blame tan for dividing the fans? In this instance you want to take responsibility for what you say, but you want to abdicate responsibility for dividing the fans on to Tan. How does that work??? Tan doesn't put thoughts in your head, words in your mouth on caused you to show aggression towards your fellow fans, the people do that all by themselves. tan hasn't called me "twatman" you've done that all by yourself, thus proving my point.

Right answer these questions without going on about a load of shit trying to act a smart arse using silly words to try make your self look intelligent...

1. What is the cause of all the arguments and divide between the fans?

2. Who's idea was it to enforce the re brand and kit and badge change?

Don't spout shit just give 2 simple answers.....

Our fans have been divided much longer than Tan's involvement, hence the two main message boards!!! (Hence this message board's existence because fans couldn't get along on the original one!)

To be honest I'm not sure what the answer is to either question.

Answer me this; a man goes into a shop, buys a knife and then comes out and immediately murders someone with it. Who's to blame? The man with the knife or the man selling it? Is obviously the man with the knife as he has to bear the weight of the responsibility of his actions. The accuse tan of dividing the fans is similar.

To be honest I'm not sure what the answer is to either question.

Answer me this; a man goes into a shop, buys a knife and then comes out and immediately murders someone with it. Who's to blame? The man with the knife or the man selling it? Is obviously the man with the knife as he has to bear the weight of the responsibility of his actions. The accuse tan of dividing the fans is similar.

i think there is a huge difference between "divided fans" and "fans with a different opinion to one another. its a blurry line but i think thats the licker here

To be honest I'm not sure what the answer is to either question.

Answer me this; a man goes into a shop, buys a knife and then comes out and immediately murders someone with it. Who's to blame? The man with the knife or the man selling it? Is obviously the man with the knife as he has to bear the weight of the responsibility of his actions. The accuse tan of dividing the fans is similar.

i think there is a huge difference between "divided fans" and "fans with a different opinion to one another. its a blurry line but i think thats the licker here

Exactly and furthermore how those fans behave towards one another!

Twatman blue your full of shit, I speak for my self no1 else but my opinion is the same opinion as the majority of city fans no doubt and you are a minority my friend.

So answer my question the same as Jamesc pointed out,
Tell me now how Vincent tan isn't to blame for the divide between fans since he himself caused the re brand?
Answer that one for me

agree with Man of Harlech and Natman...........the club is far more important than the colour....

Twatman blue your full of shit, I speak for my self no1 else but my opinion is the same opinion as the majority of city fans no doubt and you are a minority my friend.

So answer my question the same as Jamesc pointed out,
Tell me now how Vincent tan isn't to blame for the divide between fans since he himself caused the re brand?
Answer that one for me

You've just exactly proved my point, which is why I asked the question. "You speak for yourself", so if that's the case how can you blame tan for dividing the fans? In this instance you want to take responsibility for what you say, but you want to abdicate responsibility for dividing the fans on to Tan. How does that work??? Tan doesn't put thoughts in your head, words in your mouth on caused you to show aggression towards your fellow fans, the people do that all by themselves. tan hasn't called me "twatman" you've done that all by yourself, thus proving my point.

Right answer these questions without going on about a load of shit trying to act a smart arse using silly words to try make your self look intelligent...

1. What is the cause of all the arguments and divide between the fans?

2. Who's idea was it to enforce the re brand and kit and badge change?

Don't spout shit just give 2 simple answers.....

the divide is.............in one corner people who want blue..but put financial stabilty first
and those that dont give two hoots if the club dies,as long as it dies blue.......

and TAN introduced the rebrand..........then due to the explosive reaction said he would walk away..find new investors.....only to be BEGGED to rethink, the fans would accept the red.........so ALL of us are to blame.......some accept that, some spit dummies out....

I don't understand the posts/threads aimed at Natman...

Yes, ok, he's annoyed a few people...

But read his posts... he backs up his views very well, and he has every right to hold those views.

Just needs to curb the personal comments sometimes

He hasent backed up his views, I've asked him how can he support tan when he changed us red and that's what the problem is? How can he have no care for our true colours and identity? No answers.
Natman you say tan is not at fault and the problem is the divide between fans, well wake up because it is Vincent tan that has caused this divide between the fans and he is the only one that can unite the fans by returning our colours and identity

Blue, i've backed up my views quite consistently and all across this message board. If you feel I haven't answered something then ask me again as I'm always more than willing to answer. I thought I had answered your question?

Did Vincent tan tell you to say those words or was it annis?

Natman, Ive warned you time and time again, dont bring me in to your once again petty arguments, I dont even know who this poster is, so for the 100th time do not bring me in to your arguments

Annis, actually try and read my posts before you have a go please.

You tell him bro