This "COMPROMISE" ???

No compromise for me, unless it's blue with our badge then it's a no from me.

A blue and red kit is just as bad as a red kit. We would still look like someone to else.

Blue would be before the badge though.

Spot on for me too.

Agreed but we all no tan is full of shit anyway

I may be wrong but i don't think there will be a compromise, if we don't go back up i think Tan will find a way of leaving the club, what condition the club will be in is anybodies guess
After last seasons support for the blue he is determined to see it his way, i don't think he does u turns. We have to make sure that we don't either, flood the ground in blue even if it makes us or him a laughing stock.

I am not forever blue, I'm just someone else with the same opinion as him about the re brand like thousands of other city fans, I don't hate tan on all fronts like forever blue, I just want our true identity and colours back and until that happens Cardiff city isn't the same and fans will never unite or the club move forward so wake up and smell the coffee that the red shite is damaging to our club

I said u were a liar if you were saying that I was lying

Sam gets brought in to it,as soon as someone is losing the debate on Tan

As to Sam, Ive said again twice today and a 1,000 times I have admitted Sam has made many mistaked and debated it, Sam left £24 mill owing, but a squad worth more, but thats been done to death as well.

How about the Kumars debt?

Tony Clemos debt?

Although I maybe wrong but i think the reason why people bring sam up in these arguements is your very vocal against clemo/ridsdale/tan but did nothing at all against sam[/quote]


And Jinks have we or not discussed this topic before and I replied and u understood? [/quote]

I didn't say you were right though I was on about other posters who are now bringing it up

I said u were a liar if you were saying that I was lying

Sam gets brought in to it,as soon as someone is losing the debate on Tan

As to Sam, Ive said again twice today and a 1,000 times I have admitted Sam has made many mistaked and debated it, Sam left £24 mill owing, but a squad worth more, but thats been done to death as well.

How about the Kumars debt?

Tony Clemos debt?

Although I maybe wrong but i think the reason why people bring sam up in these arguements is your very vocal against clemo/ridsdale/tan but did nothing at all against sam[/quote]


And Jinks have we or not discussed this topic before and I replied and u understood? [/quote]

No way was our squad worth £24m when Sam left.

You can't have a red kit with our original bluebird badge as it would look shit.
You can't have our blue kit back with that dragon beer mat badge as it would look shit.
No compromise on this one,it's blue kit and bluebird badge back full-stop.Perhaps then we can move on as a club together as one.

You can't have a red kit with our original bluebird badge as it would look shit.
You can't have our blue kit back with that dragon beer mat badge as it would look shit.
No compromise on this one,it's blue kit and bluebird badge back full-stop.Perhaps then we can move on as a club together as one.

It's a lack of 'compromise' (on all sides) that will allow all this shit to drag on, fella!

Although I said no compromise I would still accept the blue kit with the current badge. It wouldn't be the worse badge we have had, for me that would be Sam's Leeds looking badge without Cardiff city on it.

A compromise of blue and red kit though for me is just pointless.

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Although I said no compromise I would still accept the blue kit with the current badge. It wouldn't be the worse badge we have had, for me that would be Sam's Leeds looking badge without Cardiff city on it.

A compromise of blue and red kit though for me is just pointless.

I agree Sams rebranded badge was awfully shit..

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

I'm really not meaning to sound facetious so really sorry if I come across that way, don't mean to! What evidence have you got?

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

leave my bro alone,we are red and Tan is our king,you blues do one,we want to be the Red dragons

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

You leave my bro alone Annis,so what if Tan lies,we are Red and we will soon be the dragons

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

You leave my bro alone Annis,so what if Tan lies,we are Red and we will soon be the dragons

I honestly give up on you two

Although I said no compromise I would still accept the blue kit with the current badge. It wouldn't be the worse badge we have had, for me that would be Sam's Leeds looking badge without Cardiff city on it.

A compromise of blue and red kit though for me is just pointless.

I agree Sams rebranded badge was awfully shit..

Jinks at last we agree,I hated that badge as well and I told Sam that

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

All Opinions Welcome Annis? Your attitude lately has been really strange.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

All Opinions Welcome Annis? Your attitude lately has been really strange.

Correct Opinions

Just got stronger for the BLUE,as time goes by it hurts even more and SAD to see so many fans not returning next season,everywhere I go fans say they have not renewed due to the rebrand/mess of our club, I dread to see how low the crowds really will be next season.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

Then just name me some lies, spell them out. The debt free you've completely misunderstood, Tan has never said days, it's a long term plan and strategy!

CEOs can say whatever they like, they're not Tan! I'm a CEO, I can speak out of turn and be rained back in by my board members etc.

I won't admit Tan is wrong until I've seen concrete evidence, and I've not seen it!

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

Then just name me some lies, spell them out. The debt free you've completely misunderstood, Tan has never said days, it's a long term plan and strategy!

CEOs can say whatever they like, they're not Tan! I'm a CEO, I can speak out of turn and be rained back in by my board members etc.

I won't admit Tan is wrong until I've seen concrete evidence, and I've not seen it!

You tell him bro Tan might lie and dictate,but these mods are trying to dictate to us bro,we are Red and Cardiff dragons are Red

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

Then just name me some lies, spell them out. The debt free you've completely misunderstood, Tan has never said days, it's a long term plan and strategy!

CEOs can say whatever they like, they're not Tan! I'm a CEO, I can speak out of turn and be rained back in by my board members etc.

I won't admit Tan is wrong until I've seen concrete evidence, and I've not seen it!

You tell him bro Tan might lie and dictate,but these mods are trying to dictate to us bro,we are Red and Cardiff dragons are Red

Sorry but thats it,it was bad enough one Stalker,but now two of you, go and find a Tan/Red forum

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

All Opinions Welcome Annis? Your attitude lately has been really strange.

Correct Opinions

Just got stronger for the BLUE,as time goes by it hurts even more and SAD to see so many fans not returning next season,everywhere I go fans say they have not renewed due to the rebrand/mess of our club, I dread to see how low the crowds really will be next season.

That's complete rubbish, a lot of this is subjective and a lot of Cardiff fans feel differently and you will only alienate them by taking that far an attitude with it.

It's up to fans whether they come or not and relegation after a shambolic season will obviously see people not come, it's the reality for any club.

The constant negativity about the owners and the club by many on here and CCMB certainly doesn't help.

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

All Opinions Welcome Annis? Your attitude lately has been really strange.

Correct Opinions

Just got stronger for the BLUE,as time goes by it hurts even more and SAD to see so many fans not returning next season,everywhere I go fans say they have not renewed due to the rebrand/mess of our club, I dread to see how low the crowds really will be next season.

That's complete rubbish, a lot of this is subjective and a lot of Cardiff fans feel differently and you will only alienate them by taking that far an attitude with it.

It's up to fans whether they come or not and relegation after a shambolic season will obviously see people not come, it's the reality for any club.

The constant negativity about the owners and the club by many on here and CCMB certainly doesn't help.

Rem all opinions welcome

Crowds were 27,500 last season, lets see next seasons,even if we are doing well, will be very interesting?

There wont be a compromise as long as Tan is the owner, the sooner people realise this the better.

How do you know though ely Boy? have you spoken to Tan?

I base this comment on the past actions of a proven liar, you are willing to give this proven liar the benefit of the doubt.

I have evidence he is a liar, you have hope he will change.

Simon, I am glad to see some sense at last on here these lot are driving me mad with their pro Tan/Red shite.

Where's the evidence of lying then Annis?

Tan from day one has lied to us,nothing but bull shit,weve debated 24/7. Since 2012 uve been arguing for him and as you know this club is not Debt Free as promised, uve had the links/CEO'S all saying it on his behalf,yet u still back Tan, bad enough backing him for your despicable Red shite.
Pointless debating it, as u will never ever admit Tan is wrong.

All Opinions Welcome Annis? Your attitude lately has been really strange.

Correct Opinions

Just got stronger for the BLUE,as time goes by it hurts even more and SAD to see so many fans not returning next season,everywhere I go fans say they have not renewed due to the rebrand/mess of our club, I dread to see how low the crowds really will be next season.

That's complete rubbish, a lot of this is subjective and a lot of Cardiff fans feel differently and you will only alienate them by taking that far an attitude with it.

It's up to fans whether they come or not and relegation after a shambolic season will obviously see people not come, it's the reality for any club.

The constant negativity about the owners and the club by many on here and CCMB certainly doesn't help.

Rem all opinions welcome

Crowds were 27,500 last season, lets see next seasons,even if we are doing well, will be very interesting?

Annis you are having a mare here, don't know why Natman has got to you so much but it's a little fishy now.

Well they were only 23,000 tops when we were topping the league last time. I expect it will be around the 20,000 mark come August which isn't an unusual drop for a relegated side.

Blackburn lost 8,000-12,000 fans when they went down under unpopular owners without any rebrand. Middlesborough also suffered similarly.

Sounds about right,i was thinking around 18-20,000 to start the season and if we're pushing for promotion it'll be higher.That's football.Certainly nothing to do with the rebrand or tan.