' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

I think the problem is some people try to blame Tan for everything. It gets so silly that people inadvertently end up defending him. For in am ideal world he would sell up and we would return to blue but I don't see that happening soon.

The rebrand I think he deserves everything he gets, other than that I'm not so sure. At the end of the day the vast majority of people accepted the rebrand 2 tears ago, not enough was done at the time to protest. That was the time to make a fuss and the majority gave in and accepted the red be it reluctantly. Only those who didn't attend games again fought for the blue.

As for the 10,000 down I think it says everything about our fans rather than Tan.

Was it worth it?
Well it was never choice, we were red in the championship, red in the premiership. I certainly didn't stop going because of the red and it definitely wasn't about the prem. For me it was a simple choice of either going to games and watching us play in red or stop going. Tans promises and money were a second thought. At the end of the day are owners/chairman ever honest?

This will be my last season as a season ticket holder though, not as enjoyable anymore and I'll have more important things to do with my money next year. Tan can take part of the blame for it not as enjoyable, other fans part as well but in the end it's my choice and I'll just pick and choose games if and when I fancy them.
People should do what they want without worrying what other people say or do. Be that a red top or a protest top.

I was amazed that when some finally found their balls to "protest" it was strictly a "nothing to be said about Tan" thing.

The guy who did it and the guy that said it wont change while he is there - bizarre.

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

He's not put millions in. It's loans.

The blokes an idiot and I'd rather be in conference playing in blue than in prem in red.

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

He's not put millions in. It's loans.

The blokes an idiot and I'd rather be in conference playing in blue than in prem in red.

As we are using hypothetical notions, how about either play in red or no club at all?

Annis people will say the same about your support of Sam. I agree and think Sam deserves more praise but people will say it.

Your user name is troobloo but you're defending Tan (IE the rebrand) Ironic really

I think the atmosphere inside CCS last season spoke for itself. Awful, boring, quiet (except the man city game where the ground was rocking, and he noise when we equalised was unbelievable)
But there has always been a divide in the fans because of the red/blue debate, and that's surely Got to fall on Tan's lap

Funniest thing is, he was on here saying he was protesting for Mackay and was also at BU meetings.

That's why you can only really take notice of certain posters now, to have a decent debate about anything.

Does that count when recently people have changed their minds and now hate Tan?

That has happened and they have been welcomed with open arms and said that people can change their minds.....only one way I take it?????

Simply pointing out the irony

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

He's not put millions in. It's loans.

The blokes an idiot and I'd rather be in conference playing in blue than in prem in red.

As we are using hypothetical notions, how about either play in red or no club at all?

To me it's not my club playing in red. If the club went through we'd reform.

Barry chuckles don't understand you snipe at me I haven't complained about people expressing opinions or I've merely said if you post you can't expect everyone to agree with you and asked if there would be a similar campaign if next owners refuse to change to blue and so on ad infinitum if your comment were directed at someone else I am sorry for miunderstanding

' I Honestly cant still get my head around it '

I honestly cant still get my head around it that Tan still has his lovers/followers after all he has done to our club, ripped it apart,destroyed the heart of it,divided it that we feel no pride,£150 mill in debt, a laughing stock in the media and around the world, fans so fed up with Tans circus,some even blaming everyone else in the club but Tan, yet Tan is without doubt 100% in control of everything and has the final say,no matter what and has done from day one including sacking 3 CEO's in less than 2 years.

I cant believe some of the posts on here in support of Tan, but thats their opinions, I am shocked/stunned,but I suppose some dont want to see the truth.

Even some of the ardent fans like Steve Davies,Carl Curtis, Gary aka Castleblue,who have from day one given Tan the benefit of the doubt,no longer have any respect for him.

10,000 less fans next season(that speaks volumes) and No identity,

And guess what were back in the Championship.

Was it really all worth it?

For me 100% DEF NOT


" WE ARE CARDIFF CITY WE WILL ALWAYS BE BLUE "

Why mention a few names they are no more ardent than the majority of fans,..

Tans arselickers are just plastics. They won't be here if we're back in league 2 in a few years.

How many more times are you going to re hash the same vitriolic rant you say people can express their own opinions so get over it there will be people who like tan not everyone thinks like you.It gets boring reading the same thing it is keeping the split going when we should stay united behind the club Cardiff City don't fret about tan he will go at the end of the season I truly believe that he is fed up here and is looking for face saving way out,but his exit doesn't mean the next owner will change back so wha will we do then drive them out and anyone else who follows on

Complains about people not being able to express their own opinions, then implies that someone should stop expressing their opinion.

Priceless.

Almost to your level eh chuckles

Tans arselickers are just plastics. They won't be here if we're back in league 2 in a few years.

Well said.

Tan is the reason for all our clubs current problems. He could have been the solution. However his warped red ideology/superstition/lunacy has ripped the heart out of a once proud club.

Next season I shall make the journey from home to cardiff (5 hour round trip) with my boys but it will only be to 2-3 games. I shall do the away games where we will play in blue as at least then I can identify with the club I have supported for 34 seasons.

I agree 100% with Annis and many others on here - who support a BLUE Cardiff with our rightful BLUEBIRD crest!

The thing is, YES Tan has done a lot for our club financially HOWEVER we are FAR MORE in debt than we have ever been AND he's failed on promises!!

Tan would have been the perfect owner - IF he didn't rebrand us and kept his word about the equity.. This alone is why Tan is an absolute joke to me... anything else just makes my feelings worse!

Just to make this clear, this in my original post at the top is not about Malky or Ole,on this occasion I had not even thought about them in this topic, its about Tan and my opinions on him and how I honestly cant get my head around those still backing Tan, but of course their opinions are welcome,I just dont understand them when it comes to Tan and what he has done to our club, in many ways destroyed it

It's quite simple really Tam owns the club and can do whatever he wants to with it. You own a house, you can paint it red if you wish. You have a garden, you can choose to plant red flowers in it if you wish because it's yours.
Modern football isn't about 'our club' it's about the owners. They come in, invest move on... Like it or not that's modern football. Do the fans own Chelsea or does Abramovich?

Fans are fickle, there wasn't much protesting about red when we were winning matches in the Championship. I don't like being red, but can live with it as I can see how much money the man is investing in the club. Is it 'our fans' who are playing for the stadiium expansion or buying the new signings. Was it 'our fan's money Malky wasted?
You obviously have your own agenda and I respect that as we all have opinions but please don't call us Tan lovers etc we possibly have our eyes open to see things as they are.

Just to make this clear, this in my original post at the top is not about Malky or Ole,on this occasion I had not even thought about them in this topic, its about Tan and my opinions on him and how I honestly cant get my head around those still backing Tan, but of course their opinions are welcome,I just dont understand them when it comes to Tan and what he has done to our club, in many ways destroyed it

It's quite simple really Tam owns the club and can do whatever he wants to with it. You own a house, you can paint it red if you wish. You have a garden, you can choose to plant red flowers in it if you wish because it's yours.
Modern football isn't about 'our club' it's about the owners. They come in, invest move on... Like it or not that's modern football. Do the fans own Chelsea or does Abramovich?

Fans are fickle, there wasn't much protesting about red when we were winning matches in the Championship. I don't like being red, but can live with it as I can see how much money the man is investing in the club. Is it 'our fans' who are playing for the stadiium expansion or buying the new signings. Was it 'our fan's money Malky wasted?
You obviously have your own agenda and I respect that as we all have opinions but please don't call us Tan lovers etc we possibly have our eyes open to see things as they are.

This is ludacris... to even compare the running of a football club to owning a house is laughable... secondly, what other owner do you know that has completely rebranded a club in the 'modern game'? Complete badge change along with a new 'slogan' and different colour shirts.... and to even mention Chelsea and Abramovich is madness.... that man has invested so much into that club but has hardly turned a profit until last year... he wouldnt even consider rebranding Chelsea because from what I gather he respects the history and tradition of the club..

You'll probably find that the money from the UEFA Super Cup will probably cover quite a lot of the stadium expansion... from what i've heard theres a lot of money involved to host this sort of match.... I could be wrong off course...

The thing is, it's not all about money - and you can say your eyes are open to see things as they are BUT quite frankly how can the man be a hero when we are far more in debit than we were when he come in.... Oh and theres also the fact he promised debt to equity and guess what........

Tans arselickers are just plastics. They won't be here if we're back in league 2 in a few years.

Disgraceful comment, I was down the city in the 80s when 1500 fans turned up, how dare you call fans who support this club in its current state plastics.

16 years a season ticket holder and it's comments like that which simply piss me off.

I still can't get my head around the fact that people are still moaning. We are a bigger club now, known throughout the world. It's never going to change. Sometimes you just can't have your own way. That's life.

The only people who consider us a laughing stock are the die-hard former football criminals who hanker back to the good old days ( which were crap and scary for most of us who were there in the 70-90s).

I think perhaps we should close this board down and stay at home on a Saturday afternoon or go shopping with the missus.

I, for one, will be cheering on my team, in whatever colour they are playing in, in whatever league they are playing in, and whatever they are called.

The rest of the moaners should put their money where their mouth is and go off to form the FC Bluebirds of Cardiff

I still can't get my head around the fact that people are still moaning. We are a bigger club now, known throughout the world. It's never going to change. Sometimes you just can't have your own way. That's life.

The only people who consider us a laughing stock are the die-hard former football criminals who hanker back to the good old days ( which were crap and scary for most of us who were there in the 70-90s).

I think perhaps we should close this board down and stay at home on a Saturday afternoon or go shopping with the missus.

I, for one, will be cheering on my team, in whatever colour they are playing in, in whatever league they are playing in, and whatever they are called.

The rest of the moaners should put their money where their mouth is and go off to form the FC Bluebirds of Cardiff

Well said ,same old moaners who ever is in charge

I honestly cant still get my head around that you keep bleating on about what tan has done to our club
stpped us going into admin
financed a promotion winning campaign to the premier league
gave MILKY 50 million to waste to keep us up
gave shed loads of money to local charities
is financialy supporting us to get us back to the premier league
the debt is manageable under tans ownership
oh well these are positives but hey ho tans a clown to some on here
same old same old fuc.ing boring

Your user name is troobloo but you're defending Tan (IE the rebrand) Ironic really

I think the atmosphere inside CCS last season spoke for itself. Awful, boring, quiet (except the man city game where the ground was rocking, and he noise when we equalised was unbelievable)
But there has always been a divide in the fans because of the red/blue debate, and that's surely Got to fall on Tan's lap

Atmosphere has been shite for ages and cardiff fans have always been divided over something or t'other

The thing is our Club is being run like a Circus from top to bottom and there really isn't anything nice to say about any of them. At the top you have the ringmaster Tan going down to the Clown of our CEOs. Malky was the smiling Clown but he was or looked flawed. Olly is the new Clown but he ain't never put on a red nose in his life and he is lost in the gaze of some massive headlights. And our Fans fill the big top of a stadium ready to gasp at the latest acts. Sad really.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

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I still can't get my head around the fact that people are still moaning. We are a bigger club now, known throughout the world. It's never going to change. Sometimes you just can't have your own way. That's life.

The only people who consider us a laughing stock are the die-hard former football criminals who hanker back to the good old days ( which were crap and scary for most of us who were there in the 70-90s).

I think perhaps we should close this board down and stay at home on a Saturday afternoon or go shopping with the missus.

I, for one, will be cheering on my team, in whatever colour they are playing in, in whatever league they are playing in, and whatever they are called.

The rest of the moaners should put their money where their mouth is and go off to form the FC Bluebirds of Cardiff

Annis people will say the same about your support of Sam. I agree and think Sam deserves more praise but people will say it.

Neil, But I have time and time admitted Sam made many mistakes,but he was not a dictator.

He must have seen us as a soft touch, bow to his every word, forget we are a proud WELSH club hmmmmm

A few questions for you Paul Hmmm ?

Is that the best youve got 2010?

Were you there with the loyal hundreds?

Spot on Paul, thats us welcoming TG and before Tans days and even if it was welcoming Tan which I never have, NO one knew what lay ahead, did you?

Should we we not welcome all new owners,players and managers and give them a chance Paul yes or no?

I agree 100% with Annis and many others on here - who support a BLUE Cardiff with our rightful BLUEBIRD crest!

The thing is, YES Tan has done a lot for our club financially HOWEVER we are FAR MORE in debt than we have ever been AND he's failed on promises!!

Tan would have been the perfect owner - IF he didn't rebrand us and kept his word about the equity.. This alone is why Tan is an absolute joke to me... anything else just makes my feelings worse!

Tans arselickers are just plastics. They won't be here if we're back in league 2 in a few years.

Well said.

Tan is the reason for all our clubs current problems. He could have been the solution. However his warped red ideology/superstition/lunacy has ripped the heart out of a once proud club.

Next season I shall make the journey from home to cardiff (5 hour round trip) with my boys but it will only be to 2-3 games. I shall do the away games where we will play in blue as at least then I can identify with the club I have supported for 34 seasons.

Totally understand Gareth and thats what Tan has done to loyal fans like your family, I wonder if a lot of these Tan supporters go to the games as Ive hardly ever met one?

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

He's not put millions in. It's loans.

The blokes an idiot and I'd rather be in conference playing in blue than in prem in red.

Correct loans loans.

Tans arselickers are just plastics. They won't be here if we're back in league 2 in a few years.

Well said.

Tan is the reason for all our clubs current problems. He could have been the solution. However his warped red ideology/superstition/lunacy has ripped the heart out of a once proud club.

Next season I shall make the journey from home to cardiff (5 hour round trip) with my boys but it will only be to 2-3 games. I shall do the away games where we will play in blue as at least then I can identify with the club I have supported for 34 seasons.

Totally understand Gareth and thats what Tan has done to loyal fans like your family, I wonder if a lot of these Tan supporters go to the games as Ive hardly ever met one?

It's a horrible feeling. I've been an exile since 1989 and most seasons I've done at least 10 homes and 2 or 3 aways. I've bought my kids replica shirts and spent thousands following the city.

All I want is to see our club playing home games in blue. If the change does not occur I can see myself giving up.

We would be League 2 or worse if Tan had never stepped in.

He's put millions into the club for players and other investments.

The people who demand him out never give a proper response to what would happen.

He's not put millions in. It's loans.

The blokes an idiot and I'd rather be in conference playing in blue than in prem in red.

Correct loans loans.

And this is what I don't get.If Tan had not stepped in it wouldn't be blue in league 2 it would have been nothing,no club,nothing and all the people that make up bullshit about him should remember this.It makes me laugh that all the people dissing Tan have not spoke of a viable alternative.I wish we were in blue but at the mo I think theres no alternative.

Tans arselickers are just plastics. They won't be here if we're back in league 2 in a few years.

Well said.

Tan is the reason for all our clubs current problems. He could have been the solution. However his warped red ideology/superstition/lunacy has ripped the heart out of a once proud club.

Next season I shall make the journey from home to cardiff (5 hour round trip) with my boys but it will only be to 2-3 games. I shall do the away games where we will play in blue as at least then I can identify with the club I have supported for 34 seasons.

How many home games did you do this season?